Anonymous wrote:Actually 26 is still juvenile, your brain doesn't fully form til you hit 30.
I personally don't believe in hailing non-violent offenders. Crime is related to social structure. It's also related to socio-economics, people commit crimes to get what they need.

I don't believe in jailing non-violent offenders.

Anonymous wrote:Actually 26 is still juvenile, your brain doesn't fully form til you hit 30.
I personally don't believe in hailing non-violent offenders. Crime is related to social structure. It's also related to socio-economics, people commit crimes to get what they need.

Such a crime apologist. You are the reason we cannot have nice things.

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Anonymous wrote:We need 20-30 year mandatory minimum sentences for any car theft. Period.

The Supreme Court would disagree with you! Moreover, that is cruel & unusual punishment. We need more social services and campaign push for helping fathers parent. Many of the kids stealing probably don't have fathers in the home because the fathers are away in jail. More jail will not resolve the issue.

I think you, respectfully, need to step back from your privileged position and take a look at how the crime impacts those with less resources then you if you think 20-30 years in prison is a ‘cruel and unusual’ punishment for stealing a car.

Imagine you are a poor single mother. Let’s say one day some kid steals the car you worked hard to afford. You now have no transportation, you cannot get to work, so you lose your job. You cannot fet your kids to school, so they get in trouble for absenteeism and ultimately expelled, and you can’t get to the grocery store, so you are forced to feed your kids what is available at the corner store, which leads to them getting obese and having to deal with the medical complications of that.

I hope you can see that stealing the car didn’t just steal this single mother’s physical item, but it was stealing her sole mode of transportation and he dignity. Sure, when your car is stolen, maybe you have the privilege to just laugh on the drive over to the Maserati dealership about how you wanted to buy a new car anyway, but for the vast majority of people, losing their car is a serious, often unrecoverable disaster.

So, tell me how 20-30 years in prison is ‘cruel and unusual’ punishment in this case? How is such a violent and evil crime not worth a punishment that matches its severity, and how do we tell the victims that such evil only justifies a slap on the wrist?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need 20-30 year mandatory minimum sentences for any car theft. Period.

The Supreme Court would disagree with you! Moreover, that is cruel & unusual punishment. We need more social services and campaign push for helping fathers parent. Many of the kids stealing probably don't have fathers in the home because the fathers are away in jail. More jail will not resolve the issue.

A father who is in jail would likely make a lousy parent out of jail.

You’ve never heard why 3 strikes you are out was a failure did ya!

Actually I remember the peace and calm that followed when 3 strikes was implemented. It turned around the high crime of the 80s-90s and needs to be brought back.

Actually 26 is still juvenile, your brain doesn't fully form til you hit 30.
I personally don't believe in hailing non-violent offenders. Crime is related to social structure. It's also related to socio-economics, people commit crimes to get what they need.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s so ridiculous. I watched four teenagers crash a (presumably stolen) car yesterday and then run off without any consequences. I called 911 and walked my dog behind them and told police exactly where they were with great description… nothing. Officers were sent out to the site of the vehicle. It’s so frustrating and honestly unfair to these kids that they don’t have consequences of their behavior at an age where they can still change.

That is really frustrating. They need to make the standard of evidence more reasonable--ie if you are in a stolen car you'd better have a really good explanation. I also had heard they disbanded the car theft task force because they decided it was 'racist' (apostrophes to indicate I don't agree) in the sense that statistically mostly black kids were getting arrested. This could be wrong, but I believe we briefly had a task force and more coordination with VA and MD and then disbanded it. Anyway, if we don't know what the city is doing in response to this crime wave then the messaging has failed- which can only bolster further crime.

You are missing the details here.

Under age 26 = “juvenile offender” under D.C. code. In most of the USA, “juvenile” = under 18. But not DC.

So, under DC law: “you can’t put a 26 year old CHILD in jail! That would be barbaric!”

Per JLG, it could "traumatize them!" I mean, F*** any trauma of the victims and potential victims, many of whom are ACTUAL juveniles.

I was with you until the bolded. You literally witnessed teenage criminals crash a stolen car and you’re concerned about what’s “fair” for them?? I don’t care one iota of what’s fair for them-they stole a car and could have killed someone. What’s fair for everyone else is lock them up. Because they absolutely won’t change. Mark my words.

Do you think the same when a man overspends on his business and declares bankruptcy? You think they should go to jail for being irresponsible?

A baby was just kidnapped last night by one of these goons and you’re going to compare violent carjacking to…declaring bankruptcy?

A lot of people seem to be picking up on the DSA astroturfer talking points of always pivoting to white collar crime, if they can't shut down any crime concern by calling it "MAGA" as Silverman just did. Glad she is gone. Feel ashamed to have once given her a small amount of money and to have voted for her.

Exhibit A of why this problem isn’t going away for awhile. DC is now less safe than Baltimore and you’ve still got people arguing for restorative justice for these cretins. You get the city you deserve!

Exactly. It really is looking like time to move after so many years. In hindsight, wish we had done it when the kids were tiny instead of committing to DC, DCPS, etc. Turned out to be a bad bargain and our commutes would have been easier from Arlington than what we could afford in DC anyway.

PP 2 above work on your reading skills.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need 20-30 year mandatory minimum sentences for any car theft. Period.

The Supreme Court would disagree with you! Moreover, that is cruel & unusual punishment. We need more social services and campaign push for helping fathers parent. Many of the kids stealing probably don't have fathers in the home because the fathers are away in jail. More jail will not resolve the issue.

Their fathers are not at home, but few are in jail, at least in DC. And more jail time would absolutely solve this. A high percentage of crime in DC is committed by people with pending cases or recent cases. They don't care. You would think that people who are facing current charges would be on their best behavior to get a good plea deal or a lenient sentence -- for many it's the opposite. DC needs some version of a three strikes law. And 24-26 year olds are not children--they are men and the YRA needs to be repealed.

Agree.

Recidivism is the major problem behind most crime in the USA.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s so ridiculous. I watched four teenagers crash a (presumably stolen) car yesterday and then run off without any consequences. I called 911 and walked my dog behind them and told police exactly where they were with great description… nothing. Officers were sent out to the site of the vehicle. It’s so frustrating and honestly unfair to these kids that they don’t have consequences of their behavior at an age where they can still change.

That is really frustrating. They need to make the standard of evidence more reasonable--ie if you are in a stolen car you'd better have a really good explanation. I also had heard they disbanded the car theft task force because they decided it was 'racist' (apostrophes to indicate I don't agree) in the sense that statistically mostly black kids were getting arrested. This could be wrong, but I believe we briefly had a task force and more coordination with VA and MD and then disbanded it. Anyway, if we don't know what the city is doing in response to this crime wave then the messaging has failed- which can only bolster further crime.

You are missing the details here.

Under age 26 = “juvenile offender” under D.C. code. In most of the USA, “juvenile” = under 18. But not DC.

So, under DC law: “you can’t put a 26 year old CHILD in jail! That would be barbaric!”

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need 20-30 year mandatory minimum sentences for any car theft. Period.

The Supreme Court would disagree with you! Moreover, that is cruel & unusual punishment. We need more social services and campaign push for helping fathers parent. Many of the kids stealing probably don't have fathers in the home because the fathers are away in jail. More jail will not resolve the issue.

Their fathers are not at home, but few are in jail, at least in DC. And more jail time would absolutely solve this. A high percentage of crime in DC is committed by people with pending cases or recent cases. They don't care. You would think that people who are facing current charges would be on their best behavior to get a good plea deal or a lenient sentence -- for many it's the opposite. DC needs some version of a three strikes law. And 24-26 year olds are not children--they are men and the YRA needs to be repealed.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s so ridiculous. I watched four teenagers crash a (presumably stolen) car yesterday and then run off without any consequences. I called 911 and walked my dog behind them and told police exactly where they were with great description… nothing. Officers were sent out to the site of the vehicle. It’s so frustrating and honestly unfair to these kids that they don’t have consequences of their behavior at an age where they can still change.

I was with you until the bolded. You literally witnessed teenage criminals crash a stolen car and you’re concerned about what’s “fair” for them?? I don’t care one iota of what’s fair for them-they stole a car and could have killed someone. What’s fair for everyone else is lock them up. Because they absolutely won’t change. Mark my words.

Do you think the same when a man overspends on his business and declares bankruptcy? You think they should go to jail for being irresponsible?

A baby was just kidnapped last night by one of these goons and you’re going to compare violent carjacking to…declaring bankruptcy?

Exhibit A of why this problem isn’t going away for awhile. DC is now less safe than Baltimore and you’ve still got people arguing for restorative justice for these cretins. You get the city you deserve!

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Anonymous wrote:Now we're up to 53 stolen cars in DC in 2024.

Dreading the renewal of our auto insurance.

It would actually be a relief if insurers refused to insure. It would force the city to act in some way, no?

Hahahahahaha

I guess the task force has reconvened. perhaps they should share their results so far? This is telling:

"“I have complete and utter faith in my team. They’re doing absolutely everything they can,” Barnes told the I-Team, although she admitted she could use more officers on the District’s Carjacking Task Force. One investigator recently left the task force for another assignment in the department, leaving her with 11 detectives. Barnes says she “would love another 10 (detectives),” insisting she has work for them right away. MPD says detectives outside the task force investigate some carjacking cases."

Anonymous wrote:Now we're up to 53 stolen cars in DC in 2024.

Dreading the renewal of our auto insurance.

It would actually be a relief if insurers refused to insure. It would force the city to act in some way, no?

Anonymous wrote:It’s so ridiculous. I watched four teenagers crash a (presumably stolen) car yesterday and then run off without any consequences. I called 911 and walked my dog behind them and told police exactly where they were with great description… nothing. Officers were sent out to the site of the vehicle. It’s so frustrating and honestly unfair to these kids that they don’t have consequences of their behavior at an age where they can still change.

That is really frustrating. They need to make the standard of evidence more reasonable--ie if you are in a stolen car you'd better have a really good explanation. I also had heard they disbanded the car theft task force because they decided it was 'racist' (apostrophes to indicate I don't agree) in the sense that statistically mostly black kids were getting arrested. This could be wrong, but I believe we briefly had a task force and more coordination with VA and MD and then disbanded it. Anyway, if we don't know what the city is doing in response to this crime wave then the messaging has failed- which can only bolster further crime.