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Anonymous wrote:I never pick the 737 Max, but American Airlines changed its flight times during my last overseas trip in December and I ended up on it. Having flown back-to-back on a regular airline and then the 737 Max, I instantly noticed that the 737 Max was much more cramped — less space between rows, tighter fit overall. I will continue to avoid it, but not sure what to do when airlines change your plane.

That’s the problem. You have no control over the aircraft you end up in.

This. I usually look on the various apps and also flight aware to see my airline type. My spouse is Global Services, so if I fly will him I sometimes ask him to call and double check. Once I flew and said the plane wasn't a Max and I got on the plane and it was a Max. I went on the trip, but was pretty peeved that the type of plane had been changed. Now I check regularly. I used to just check when I booked the flight.

My spouse regularly flies for work and tries to avoid the Max planes (mainly due to my paranoia). He books his own work flights, not an assistant, for this reason.

I also watched Downfall: The Case about Boeing on Netflix...

Does he avoid ever driving in a car?because that would reduce his risk of serious injury/death by 100x versus avoiding a certain commercial plane type.

You should read up on risk perceptions. They are far more complex than your simplistic advice suggests.

Yes, perceptions are more complex. I am quoting the actual statistics (well, paraphrasing, admittedly).

The idea that avoiding a certain commercial plane type in the US, where there has been ONE death from an accident in FIFTEEN years, will substantively.reducd your risk, is frankly hilarious.

By the way, I am not claiming that there aren't some significant safety issues developing in the US commercial aviation system. The issues with ATC overwork, lesser pilot experience, and the Boeing/FAA oversight corruption are real and need to be addressed. But the system is still much much safer than it has been historically, and on a per mile basis by far the safest way to travel in the US. From an individual choice perspective, trying to nitpick at the edges of this very safe system is simply not the best way to reduce your personal safety risk. Of course our perception systems can cloud that, which is why it's good to have stats and actually challenge those perceptions.

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Anonymous wrote:I never pick the 737 Max, but American Airlines changed its flight times during my last overseas trip in December and I ended up on it. Having flown back-to-back on a regular airline and then the 737 Max, I instantly noticed that the 737 Max was much more cramped — less space between rows, tighter fit overall. I will continue to avoid it, but not sure what to do when airlines change your plane.

That’s the problem. You have no control over the aircraft you end up in.

This. I usually look on the various apps and also flight aware to see my airline type. My spouse is Global Services, so if I fly will him I sometimes ask him to call and double check. Once I flew and said the plane wasn't a Max and I got on the plane and it was a Max. I went on the trip, but was pretty peeved that the type of plane had been changed. Now I check regularly. I used to just check when I booked the flight.

My spouse regularly flies for work and tries to avoid the Max planes (mainly due to my paranoia). He books his own work flights, not an assistant, for this reason.

I also watched Downfall: The Case about Boeing on Netflix...

Does he avoid ever driving in a car?because that would reduce his risk of serious injury/death by 100x versus avoiding a certain commercial plane type.

You should read up on risk perceptions. They are far more complex than your simplistic advice suggests.

Yes, perceptions are more complex. I am quoting the actual statistics (well, paraphrasing, admittedly).

The idea that avoiding a certain commercial plane type in the US, where there has been ONE death from an accident in FIFTEEN years, will substantively.reducd your risk, is frankly hilarious.

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Anonymous wrote:I never pick the 737 Max, but American Airlines changed its flight times during my last overseas trip in December and I ended up on it. Having flown back-to-back on a regular airline and then the 737 Max, I instantly noticed that the 737 Max was much more cramped — less space between rows, tighter fit overall. I will continue to avoid it, but not sure what to do when airlines change your plane.

That’s the problem. You have no control over the aircraft you end up in.

This. I usually look on the various apps and also flight aware to see my airline type. My spouse is Global Services, so if I fly will him I sometimes ask him to call and double check. Once I flew and said the plane wasn't a Max and I got on the plane and it was a Max. I went on the trip, but was pretty peeved that the type of plane had been changed. Now I check regularly. I used to just check when I booked the flight.

My spouse regularly flies for work and tries to avoid the Max planes (mainly due to my paranoia). He books his own work flights, not an assistant, for this reason.

I also watched Downfall: The Case about Boeing on Netflix...

Does he avoid ever driving in a car?because that would reduce his risk of serious injury/death by 100x versus avoiding a certain commercial plane type.

You should read up on risk perceptions. They are far more complex than your simplistic advice suggests.

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw that the entire window/door area flew off on an Alaska airlines flight on a 737 max!

I’m watching the passenger videos. I would’ve had a heart attack.

I always choose a window. Or I let my kids sit there if traveling with them.

I truly do not think I could ever fly again if that were my row. Can you IMAGINE if your kid was in that window seat?!

They don’t let kids sit in emergency exit rows, so you need not worry.

It wasn’t an exit row.

It was a door plug, where an exit row can be inserted if the configuration requires it.

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Anonymous wrote:I never pick the 737 Max, but American Airlines changed its flight times during my last overseas trip in December and I ended up on it. Having flown back-to-back on a regular airline and then the 737 Max, I instantly noticed that the 737 Max was much more cramped — less space between rows, tighter fit overall. I will continue to avoid it, but not sure what to do when airlines change your plane.

That’s the problem. You have no control over the aircraft you end up in.

This. I usually look on the various apps and also flight aware to see my airline type. My spouse is Global Services, so if I fly will him I sometimes ask him to call and double check. Once I flew and said the plane wasn't a Max and I got on the plane and it was a Max. I went on the trip, but was pretty peeved that the type of plane had been changed. Now I check regularly. I used to just check when I booked the flight.

My spouse regularly flies for work and tries to avoid the Max planes (mainly due to my paranoia). He books his own work flights, not an assistant, for this reason.

I also watched Downfall: The Case about Boeing on Netflix...

Does he avoid ever driving in a car?because that would reduce his risk of serious injury/death by 100x versus avoiding a certain commercial plane type.

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Anonymous wrote:I never pick the 737 Max, but American Airlines changed its flight times during my last overseas trip in December and I ended up on it. Having flown back-to-back on a regular airline and then the 737 Max, I instantly noticed that the 737 Max was much more cramped — less space between rows, tighter fit overall. I will continue to avoid it, but not sure what to do when airlines change your plane.

That’s the problem. You have no control over the aircraft you end up in.

This. I usually look on the various apps and also flight aware to see my airline type. My spouse is Global Services, so if I fly will him I sometimes ask him to call and double check. Once I flew and said the plane wasn't a Max and I got on the plane and it was a Max. I went on the trip, but was pretty peeved that the type of plane had been changed. Now I check regularly. I used to just check when I booked the flight.

My spouse regularly flies for work and tries to avoid the Max planes (mainly due to my paranoia). He books his own work flights, not an assistant, for this reason.

I also watched Downfall: The Case about Boeing on Netflix...

Anonymous wrote:I fly 25-30 times a year and never have been on a max. It’s not hard to avoid unless you fly Alaska or aa. Idk why Boeing keeps pushing it. Ironically Alaska just bought more of them. I bet they wish they hadn’t!

United and Southwest have lots of Max planes.

Did you see todays news?

FAA Orders Temporary Grounding of Certain 737 MAX-9s After Midair Incident on Alaska Air Flight

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Anonymous wrote:I fly 25-30 times a year and never have been on a max. It’s not hard to avoid unless you fly Alaska or aa. Idk why Boeing keeps pushing it. Ironically Alaska just bought more of them. I bet they wish they hadn’t!

If you fly for work where someone else schedules your flights, or to an airport that only has a few airlines, then it might be hard to avoid.

I do fly for work.

Anonymous wrote:I fly 25-30 times a year and never have been on a max. It’s not hard to avoid unless you fly Alaska or aa. Idk why Boeing keeps pushing it. Ironically Alaska just bought more of them. I bet they wish they hadn’t!

If you fly for work where someone else schedules your flights, or to an airport that only has a few airlines, then it might be hard to avoid.

Anonymous wrote:I never pick the 737 Max, but American Airlines changed its flight times during my last overseas trip in December and I ended up on it. Having flown back-to-back on a regular airline and then the 737 Max, I instantly noticed that the 737 Max was much more cramped — less space between rows, tighter fit overall. I will continue to avoid it, but not sure what to do when airlines change your plane.

That’s the problem. You have no control over the aircraft you end up in.

I fly 25-30 times a year and never have been on a max. It’s not hard to avoid unless you fly Alaska or aa. Idk why Boeing keeps pushing it. Ironically Alaska just bought more of them. I bet they wish they hadn’t!

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw that the entire window/door area flew off on an Alaska airlines flight on a 737 max!

It's a convertible window/door panel section. Obvious weak point. Avoid that row in flights.

This is a ludicrous comment. It’s like you’re just accepting that parts of your plane can and will fly off mid flight and are fine with it. This is NOT normal nor anything anyone should have to choose seating around on a plane as if it’s a minor inconvenience, like being too near the galley

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw that the entire window/door area flew off on an Alaska airlines flight on a 737 max!

I’m watching the passenger videos. I would’ve had a heart attack.

I always choose a window. Or I let my kids sit there if traveling with them.

I truly do not think I could ever fly again if that were my row. Can you IMAGINE if your kid was in that window seat?!

They don’t let kids sit in emergency exit rows, so you need not worry.

It wasn’t an exit row.

It sure wasn’t. And how can we tell moving forward what row it’s on (assuming the plane comes back into circulation, now that Alaska at least as pulled it)?

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw that the entire window/door area flew off on an Alaska airlines flight on a 737 max!

I’m watching the passenger videos. I would’ve had a heart attack.

I always choose a window. Or I let my kids sit there if traveling with them.

I truly do not think I could ever fly again if that were my row. Can you IMAGINE if your kid was in that window seat?!

They don’t let kids sit in emergency exit rows, so you need not worry.

It wasn’t an exit row.