Anonymous
12/18/2023 17:32
Subject: 2 people just "uninvited" from our flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We had this issue a few years ago when the airline was full and the FA demanded my daughter check her violin. It’s a 10,000 dollar instrument and we were NOT going to check it. She was heading to a major performance. So we walked off the flight. The airline reimbursed us and provided miles as an apology.
It’s not always drugs.
Does a violin case even meet the size limits for carry on?
Yes. There is tons of guidance on carryon for instruments.
I’ve seen people carry on guitars and find it so rude. The guitar takes up the entire overhead bin space.
Anonymous
12/18/2023 17:26
Subject: 2 people just "uninvited" from our flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They probably wanted the seats for someone else. They tried to do that to me once and force us to give up our seat for our child we paid for a standby. I refused as we were flying to a medical appointment and next flight out was the next day and we’d miss the appointment. Thankfully they let our kid have their seat.
Who is "they"? The flight attendants? They don't get compensated based on who is flying, and in fact get dinged pretty heavily if a flight is late related to their actions. I think you misinterpreted the situation, or there may have been other information you assumed but weren't actually told.
I did not misinterpret anything. The flight attendant told us we had to remove our car seat and child from their seat, and put the child on our lap (the child was over two but barely two so maybe they didn't realize child had to be in a seat), and give the seat to someone else. We paid for the seat and we were not putting a 2-year-old on our lap (or a child of any age as it's unsafe). They wanted the seat for someone else. That would have been fine if we didn't pay for the seat, but we paid for it and the child was a paying customer like everyone else. I had to show them the medical appointment and the child's birth certificate and there was a lot of drama. Otherwise, I would have gotten off the plane and driven but we would not have made the appointment in time and waited months for the appointment (and there was no equal specialist in this area).
To be clear, you were sitting in your seats on the plane, and a flight attendant told you this, not a gate agent before boarding?
It's possible an attendant got too far out over their skis, but that is not all acceptable if you all 3 had assigned seats and they were trying to IDB you when already on board. I can see how that situation would be awful, but I don't think it is very common at all.
Yes, the flight attendant demanded our child's seat. We were assigned three seats together, all were paid for, including the child, who was over age two. They demanded the child's seat telling us the child could be a lap child and they'd check the seat for us. It was a nightmare. It finally ended when I told them we'd get of the plane if they reimbursed us for the flights and paid 100% for the canceled hotel, rental car and medical appointment (which was a few thousand dollars as insurance wouldn't cover it). And, they had to call and explain why we weren't going.
Anonymous
12/18/2023 17:24
Subject: 2 people just "uninvited" from our flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Meh. Sometimes flight attendants and gate agents go on power trips or want to get their standby buddies on the flight. I would believe the passengers over the people on the plane.
I fly standby often, and I have never seen this happen.
I'm talking about airline employees or friends who are trying to fly standby. I saw this happen.
Of course it happens. They will bump someone if someone has higher status or an employee.
That is absolutely not correct 99.9% of the time. Does it happen infrequently? Of course. But straight up taking a revenue passenger off a flight for a higher status passenger or an NRSA employee? Will get punished for sure for violating clear policy.
The only situation in which you would get truly "bumped" because of low status would be if a flight was oversold and no volunteers were found. IDBs are much less common nowadays because the airlines have significantly increased their offer prices for volunteers, post-David Dao.
They are overbooking each flight hoping people will cancel or not get on the flight so it's regularly an issue now.
Anonymous
12/18/2023 17:22
Subject: 2 people just "uninvited" from our flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They probably wanted the seats for someone else. They tried to do that to me once and force us to give up our seat for our child we paid for a standby. I refused as we were flying to a medical appointment and next flight out was the next day and we’d miss the appointment. Thankfully they let our kid have their seat.
Who is "they"? The flight attendants? They don't get compensated based on who is flying, and in fact get dinged pretty heavily if a flight is late related to their actions. I think you misinterpreted the situation, or there may have been other information you assumed but weren't actually told.
I did not misinterpret anything. The flight attendant told us we had to remove our car seat and child from their seat, and put the child on our lap (the child was over two but barely two so maybe they didn't realize child had to be in a seat), and give the seat to someone else. We paid for the seat and we were not putting a 2-year-old on our lap (or a child of any age as it's unsafe). They wanted the seat for someone else. That would have been fine if we didn't pay for the seat, but we paid for it and the child was a paying customer like everyone else. I had to show them the medical appointment and the child's birth certificate and there was a lot of drama. Otherwise, I would have gotten off the plane and driven but we would not have made the appointment in time and waited months for the appointment (and there was no equal specialist in this area).
To be clear, you were sitting in your seats on the plane, and a flight attendant told you this, not a gate agent before boarding?
It's possible an attendant got too far out over their skis, but that is not all acceptable if you all 3 had assigned seats and they were trying to IDB you when already on board. I can see how that situation would be awful, but I don't think it is very common at all.
Anonymous
12/18/2023 17:17
Subject: 2 people just "uninvited" from our flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Meh. Sometimes flight attendants and gate agents go on power trips or want to get their standby buddies on the flight. I would believe the passengers over the people on the plane.
I fly standby often, and I have never seen this happen.
I'm talking about airline employees or friends who are trying to fly standby. I saw this happen.
Of course it happens. They will bump someone if someone has higher status or an employee.
That is absolutely not correct 99.9% of the time. Does it happen infrequently? Of course. But straight up taking a revenue passenger off a flight for a higher status passenger or an NRSA employee? Will get punished for sure for violating clear policy.
The only situation in which you would get truly "bumped" because of low status would be if a flight was oversold and no volunteers were found. IDBs are much less common nowadays because the airlines have significantly increased their offer prices for volunteers, post-David Dao.
Anonymous
12/18/2023 17:17
Subject: 2 people just "uninvited" from our flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They probably wanted the seats for someone else. They tried to do that to me once and force us to give up our seat for our child we paid for a standby. I refused as we were flying to a medical appointment and next flight out was the next day and we’d miss the appointment. Thankfully they let our kid have their seat.
Who is "they"? The flight attendants? They don't get compensated based on who is flying, and in fact get dinged pretty heavily if a flight is late related to their actions. I think you misinterpreted the situation, or there may have been other information you assumed but weren't actually told.
I did not misinterpret anything. The flight attendant told us we had to remove our car seat and child from their seat, and put the child on our lap (the child was over two but barely two so maybe they didn't realize child had to be in a seat), and give the seat to someone else. We paid for the seat and we were not putting a 2-year-old on our lap (or a child of any age as it's unsafe). They wanted the seat for someone else. That would have been fine if we didn't pay for the seat, but we paid for it and the child was a paying customer like everyone else. I had to show them the medical appointment and the child's birth certificate and there was a lot of drama. Otherwise, I would have gotten off the plane and driven but we would not have made the appointment in time and waited months for the appointment (and there was no equal specialist in this area).
Anonymous
12/18/2023 17:15
Subject: 2 people just "uninvited" from our flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Meh. Sometimes flight attendants and gate agents go on power trips or want to get their standby buddies on the flight. I would believe the passengers over the people on the plane.
I fly standby often, and I have never seen this happen.
I'm talking about airline employees or friends who are trying to fly standby. I saw this happen.
Of course it happens. They will bump someone if someone has higher status or an employee.
That is absolutely not correct 99.9% of the time. Does it happen infrequently? Of course. But straight up taking a revenue passenger off a flight for a higher status passenger or an NRSA employee? Will get punished for sure for violating clear policy.
Anonymous
12/18/2023 17:11
Subject: 2 people just "uninvited" from our flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Meh. Sometimes flight attendants and gate agents go on power trips or want to get their standby buddies on the flight. I would believe the passengers over the people on the plane.
I fly standby often, and I have never seen this happen.
I'm talking about airline employees or friends who are trying to fly standby. I saw this happen.
Of course it happens. They will bump someone if someone has higher status or an employee.
Anonymous
12/18/2023 17:09
Subject: 2 people just "uninvited" from our flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I literally love gate-checking my bag. Why would I want to be responsible for lugging it on and off and finding a bin for it if I don't have to?
I would do it on every flight.
So just get the credit card and check it for free. The Annual Fee is $100 and gets your priority boarding and checked bags for up to 4 people in your group.
Anonymous
12/18/2023 15:52
Subject: 2 people just "uninvited" from our flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Meh. Sometimes flight attendants and gate agents go on power trips or want to get their standby buddies on the flight. I would believe the passengers over the people on the plane.
I fly standby often, and I have never seen this happen.
I'm talking about airline employees or friends who are trying to fly standby. I saw this happen.
Anonymous
12/18/2023 15:51
Subject: 2 people just "uninvited" from our flight
There is so much that can be done to streamline and speed up loading/unloading planes if making money wasn't a priority. Just having the passengers sitting in the back of the plane board first! but no, that would undercut their "priority" seating.
Anonymous
12/18/2023 15:50
Subject: 2 people just "uninvited" from our flight
Anonymous wrote:Airlines should make checking luggage free and charge out the wazoo to bring a carryon.
This. The created this problem, there should also be assigned bin space. Have thin dividers, you get your space no more no less, if items don't fit they go below.
Anonymous
12/18/2023 15:34
Subject: 2 people just "uninvited" from our flight
Anonymous wrote:On a short flight from London to Amsterdam, I was at the gate early with a few other people. The BA staff came around to all of us and told us they were gatechecking our bags. Wasn't happy about it but complied. However, I noticed they only did this for the first 10 or so people at the gate. Everyone else who came later kept their carry-on.
It annoyed me. Although the bag collection in Amsterdam was very quick. But it did feel like I'd been penalized for being early!
This in a nutshell. They will do anything any way to make their jobs easier, even if it is not perceived as fair by the rest of us. And there are always entitled people who are not treated the same because either they just boldly ignore instructions or they make a fuss.
Anonymous
12/18/2023 15:33
Subject: 2 people just "uninvited" from our flight
Anonymous wrote:We had this issue a few years ago when the airline was full and the FA demanded my daughter check her violin. It’s a 10,000 dollar instrument and we were NOT going to check it. She was heading to a major performance. So we walked off the flight. The airline reimbursed us and provided miles as an apology.
It’s not always drugs.
How did she make it to the performance?
Anonymous
12/18/2023 15:32
Subject: 2 people just "uninvited" from our flight
Anonymous wrote:Airlines should make checking luggage free and charge out the wazoo to bring a carryon.
This is a great idea. Roller bags will be charged and the boarding process will decrease by 35 minutes.