Anonymous wrote:The system is going to capsize. Right now the general philosophy of MCPS is just to assume that kids are receiving zero support at home and provide everything. So many schools are trying to provide kids with clothes, food, health care, basic necessities, and it’s not sustainable. There needs to be an expectation that parents are going to provide their children with food, shelter, get them to school, etc. and if not then there need to be social programs (NOT just the public schools) in place to help struggling families. Schools absolutely cannot do everything.

I think you are conflating a bunch of different things, and confused about social services. A lot of what you are describing is federal/state/county services that are being provided at schools but are not explicitly coming from MCPS.

So, for example, free and reduced meals. This is a program that has been around since the 1940s. It is mandated by federal law, and schools receive stipends to implement it. MCPS couldn't opt out even if they wanted to. It's not their "philosophy" to provide free and reduced price lunch - it is the law.

Or we can look at healthcare. There are only 16 schools in all of MCPS with in-school health centers beyond just having a CNA (school nurse) in the building. So, yes, some of the very neediest schools in the county have co-located healthcare providers, but those are not run by MCPS. They are run by Montgomery County and are located in schools because schools (particularly at the ES level) act as "neighborhood hubs." But, again, that's not MCPS "philosopy." It is a service provided by the county, run by the county, and co-located in a school.

You are tilting at windmills here, but also talking about things you don't understand.

MCPS is way too lax on absenteeism.
There is a new rule coming out that teachers must mark a student present if they miss up to half of a class.

Anonymous wrote:This is a huge problem:

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/maryland-department-of-education-report-card-school-rankings-montgomery-county/65-37181734-eb76-424e-96f8-faf4ff121088


You can’t blame COVID either, because these rankings are relative to every school in the state, and they clearly dealt with COVID too. This is specifically due to the way MoCo schools are being run.

You're an idiot and a hater.
There were 215 schools statewide rated 5 last year in the MD report card. This year there are only 82. Why? Because of Absenteeism. It's part of the report card now. That's why every school system in the state saw a decline, not just MCPS.

Anonymous wrote:Publics. Everywhere are trash.

Private
Homeschool
On line

The only responsible path for normal people

In the US, normal people send their children to public school. Which country are you posting from?

The system is going to capsize. Right now the general philosophy of MCPS is just to assume that kids are receiving zero support at home and provide everything. So many schools are trying to provide kids with clothes, food, health care, basic necessities, and it’s not sustainable. There needs to be an expectation that parents are going to provide their children with food, shelter, get them to school, etc. and if not then there need to be social programs (NOT just the public schools) in place to help struggling families. Schools absolutely cannot do everything.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Publics. Everywhere are trash.

Private
Homeschool
On line

The only responsible path for normal people

It's funny that you specifically phrase this as "normal people", considering pretty much any selection of people in the world, the country, the state, the county, or any sub population outside your weird little bubble would be overjoyed to send their kids to our best public schools.

On the other hand, a person who unironically suggests that you're better off homeschooling or "On line", whatever it is you mean by that, gives you a better education than W schools, is not going to be described as a "normal person" by anyone.

NP - I don't think that you are familiar with what goes on during the day in public school even at "Ws", nor the type of education that homeschoolers can receive, either through on-line or in-person classes.

My understanding of what goes on during the day at Ws is that kids attend classes, make social connections with a good peer group, perform well on standardized tests, and go on to do well in life.

Making friends with smart people and being successful in life was a challenge coming from Gaithersburg in the aughts. But go on and tell me more about how attending a W school and getting private tutoring where needed amounts a "trash education", I'm willing to hear you out.

We are at a W school. Can confirm your first paragraph.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Publics. Everywhere are trash.

Private
Homeschool
On line

The only responsible path for normal people

It's funny that you specifically phrase this as "normal people", considering pretty much any selection of people in the world, the country, the state, the county, or any sub population outside your weird little bubble would be overjoyed to send their kids to our best public schools.

On the other hand, a person who unironically suggests that you're better off homeschooling or "On line", whatever it is you mean by that, gives you a better education than W schools, is not going to be described as a "normal person" by anyone.

NP - I don't think that you are familiar with what goes on during the day in public school even at "Ws", nor the type of education that homeschoolers can receive, either through on-line or in-person classes.

My understanding of what goes on during the day at Ws is that kids attend classes, make social connections with a good peer group, perform well on standardized tests, and go on to do well in life.

Making friends with smart people and being successful in life was a challenge coming from Gaithersburg in the aughts. But go on and tell me more about how attending a W school and getting private tutoring where needed amounts a "trash education", I'm willing to hear you out.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Publics. Everywhere are trash.

Private
Homeschool
On line

The only responsible path for normal people

It's funny that you specifically phrase this as "normal people", considering pretty much any selection of people in the world, the country, the state, the county, or any sub population outside your weird little bubble would be overjoyed to send their kids to our best public schools.

On the other hand, a person who unironically suggests that you're better off homeschooling or "On line", whatever it is you mean by that, gives you a better education than W schools, is not going to be described as a "normal person" by anyone.

NP - I don't think that you are familiar with what goes on during the day in public school even at "Ws", nor the type of education that homeschoolers can receive, either through on-line or in-person classes.

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Anonymous wrote:Changing demographics. Has had a huge effect on Montgomery County as a whole and on the public school system.

The biggest flaw in the state rankings is that EML students end up effectively counting in multiple categories. The increasing EML population is a big impact. Yes, many EML students also qualify as FARMS, but many do not. MoCo has always been the destination for many families serving the embassies. As our diversity has grown, we attract immigrants from all around the world and their children are getting great educations. It just doesn’t get captured they way the state tracks the data.

This is a pipe dream. Why would embassy staffs be increasing? That was always a small population and it is still a small population.

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Anonymous wrote:Whitman is on fire! 5/5 stars.
https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/H/1/15/0427/0

Yes. Strange that the feeder school, Pyle dropped. The student and staff survey ratings are quite low. I’m not sure how that factors into the ranking overall, or why that is, and I don’t get why Whitman is doing better than ever but Pyle dropped from a 5 to a 4. Given the upper middle class demographics, it should be a slam dunk easy 5.

Some people don’t like Pyle due to size, etc. I have friends whose kids did Whitman for hs and feeders for es, but for ms they went private.

Pyle is a lot smaller now as a result of people leaving but people are less happy than in the past.

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Anonymous wrote:Whitman is on fire! 5/5 stars.
https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/H/1/15/0427/0

Yes. Strange that the feeder school, Pyle dropped. The student and staff survey ratings are quite low. I’m not sure how that factors into the ranking overall, or why that is, and I don’t get why Whitman is doing better than ever but Pyle dropped from a 5 to a 4. Given the upper middle class demographics, it should be a slam dunk easy 5.

Some people don’t like Pyle due to size, etc. I have friends whose kids did Whitman for hs and feeders for es, but for ms they went private.

Anonymous wrote:Publics. Everywhere are trash.

Private
Homeschool
On line

The only responsible path for normal people

It's funny that you specifically phrase this as "normal people", considering pretty much any selection of people in the world, the country, the state, the county, or any sub population outside your weird little bubble would be overjoyed to send their kids to our best public schools.

On the other hand, a person who unironically suggests that you're better off homeschooling or "On line", whatever it is you mean by that, gives you a better education than W schools, is not going to be described as a "normal person" by anyone.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Publics. Everywhere are trash.

Private
Homeschool
On line

The only responsible path for normal people

Some specific public ESs are an absolute waste of time, that is true. But others are wonderful.

To be clear, I mention ESs because I don’t have any experience with the MSs and HSs. But I’d imagine the same is true there as well.

Anonymous wrote:Publics. Everywhere are trash.

Private
Homeschool
On line

The only responsible path for normal people

Some specific public ESs are an absolute waste of time, that is true. But others are wonderful.

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Anonymous wrote:As schools decline so will property values. W schools and BCC have now slipped from 5 star schools to 4 star schools. Why would anyone pay a premium to live in MoCo now? And they raised taxes for this disaster..


The county rolls out the carpet for illegal immigration, they're all poor, and now schools qualities decline. Totally predictable. Now people with means will flee and hasten the decline of the county.

And the superintendent wants another 5% increase in budget - I guess for her salary raise and more central office managers. As a teacher, I have no confidence in the school district to turn it around.

Actually central office proposed cuts to programs that haven’t been shown to work and thus staffing. Bother department’s didn’t ask for more knowing that the budget was tight.

Now imagine if public schools asked for a tax increase so their funding levels matched the tuition cost of notable privates schools in the area. Schools that almost low special needs and no EMLs.