Anonymous wrote:Track and cross country?

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Anonymous wrote:NONE. The Youth Sports Industrial Complex has infiltrated and ruined every sport out there. If there is a buck to be made, they will come. It used to be that there were some sports that were no cut or less competitive but that’s no longer the case. Part of the issue is mega schools where there aren’t enough teams or coaches. Parents have their kids with clubs or taking private lessons just to make the high school teams. It sucks for everyone except those who are making money. The kids are over scheduled and stressed out and the parents feel like they have to spend more time and more money just to give their kid a fair shot at making the team, any team. It’s very similar to the Academic Tutoring Industrial Complex.

It's seems to also be very much an American thing (or mostly) as well. We live just over the border from Canada and for DS' sport the best options nearby are in Canada, so we go there a couple of times a month. The overall vibe is so much more relaxed and quite frankly enjoyable. It is also 1/10th of the price (plus a great exchange rate) for way better coaching and program than I can get in the US within driving distance. It's been fascinating to see the differences in every aspect of the sport from the US to Canada - everything from the organizational aspects to the demeanor of the parents.

This used to be very common in my circles for hockey before local teams started to improve. We live close enough to the border that I’ve thought about sending my DD (dual citizenship) up there for weekends for her non-hockey sport. The Canadian funding model for international/olympic sports is so much better and creates a much better club atmosphere. She has cousins who are very involved in gymnastics in their province. Very few girls seek out NCAA or the elite path, yet they’re still competing at a very high level at some of the same meets as DD’s friends. It’s interesting to see how the exact same sport can change when you have a different endgame.

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Anonymous wrote:NONE. The Youth Sports Industrial Complex has infiltrated and ruined every sport out there. If there is a buck to be made, they will come. It used to be that there were some sports that were no cut or less competitive but that’s no longer the case. Part of the issue is mega schools where there aren’t enough teams or coaches. Parents have their kids with clubs or taking private lessons just to make the high school teams. It sucks for everyone except those who are making money. The kids are over scheduled and stressed out and the parents feel like they have to spend more time and more money just to give their kid a fair shot at making the team, any team. It’s very similar to the Academic Tutoring Industrial Complex.

It's seems to also be very much an American thing (or mostly) as well. We live just over the border from Canada and for DS' sport the best options nearby are in Canada, so we go there a couple of times a month. The overall vibe is so much more relaxed and quite frankly enjoyable. It is also 1/10th of the price (plus a great exchange rate) for way better coaching and program than I can get in the US within driving distance. It's been fascinating to see the differences in every aspect of the sport from the US to Canada - everything from the organizational aspects to the demeanor of the parents.

Anonymous wrote:Our girls had fun with synchronized swimming. Made great friends, everyone participates. And William and Mary does athletic recruiting for synchro girls. Also Stanford has a team but it tends to have olympians on it.

Anonymous wrote:op here - i have 3 young boys, no one is specialized in any yet and the oldest 2 seem happy doing most things.

talking to friends with older kids, it seems like if you want to play at even the local competitive level, it gets very intense by late elementary for most common sports. it also sounds like a lot of the less competitive clubs wind down then or only people that are brand new to the sport stay in them. so you're either playing 4 day a week year round basketball at 12 or you're not playing at all.

i'm looking for the sports that are just a lot less common and therefore you can stick with them, be good at them, compete etc but not 15 hours a week year round at 12. I figure skated and danced and my sister did gymnastic - we both competed and practiced a few times a week through high school. we loved the competition aspects and wouldn't have wanted to just do it for fun practice only - my impression is that that level of commitment in those sports today wouldn't get you anywhere.

Anonymous wrote:NONE. The Youth Sports Industrial Complex has infiltrated and ruined every sport out there. If there is a buck to be made, they will come. It used to be that there were some sports that were no cut or less competitive but that’s no longer the case. Part of the issue is mega schools where there aren’t enough teams or coaches. Parents have their kids with clubs or taking private lessons just to make the high school teams. It sucks for everyone except those who are making money. The kids are over scheduled and stressed out and the parents feel like they have to spend more time and more money just to give their kid a fair shot at making the team, any team. It’s very similar to the Academic Tutoring Industrial Complex.

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Anonymous wrote:NONE. The Youth Sports Industrial Complex has infiltrated and ruined every sport out there. If there is a buck to be made, they will come. It used to be that there were some sports that were no cut or less competitive but that’s no longer the case. Part of the issue is mega schools where there aren’t enough teams or coaches. Parents have their kids with clubs or taking private lessons just to make the high school teams. It sucks for everyone except those who are making money. The kids are over scheduled and stressed out and the parents feel like they have to spend more time and more money just to give their kid a fair shot at making the team, any team. It’s very similar to the Academic Tutoring Industrial Complex.

It's seems to also be very much an American thing (or mostly) as well. We live just over the border from Canada and for DS' sport the best options nearby are in Canada, so we go there a couple of times a month. The overall vibe is so much more relaxed and quite frankly enjoyable. It is also 1/10th of the price (plus a great exchange rate) for way better coaching and program than I can get in the US within driving distance. It's been fascinating to see the differences in every aspect of the sport from the US to Canada - everything from the organizational aspects to the demeanor of the parents.

Anonymous wrote:NONE. The Youth Sports Industrial Complex has infiltrated and ruined every sport out there. If there is a buck to be made, they will come. It used to be that there were some sports that were no cut or less competitive but that’s no longer the case. Part of the issue is mega schools where there aren’t enough teams or coaches. Parents have their kids with clubs or taking private lessons just to make the high school teams. It sucks for everyone except those who are making money. The kids are over scheduled and stressed out and the parents feel like they have to spend more time and more money just to give their kid a fair shot at making the team, any team. It’s very similar to the Academic Tutoring Industrial Complex.

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Anonymous wrote:op here - i have 3 young boys, no one is specialized in any yet and the oldest 2 seem happy doing most things.

talking to friends with older kids, it seems like if you want to play at even the local competitive level, it gets very intense by late elementary for most common sports. it also sounds like a lot of the less competitive clubs wind down then or only people that are brand new to the sport stay in them. so you're either playing 4 day a week year round basketball at 12 or you're not playing at all.

i'm looking for the sports that are just a lot less common and therefore you can stick with them, be good at them, compete etc but not 15 hours a week year round at 12. I figure skated and danced and my sister did gymnastic - we both competed and practiced a few times a week through high school. we loved the competition aspects and wouldn't have wanted to just do it for fun practice only - my impression is that that level of commitment in those sports today wouldn't get you anywhere.

There are rec level basketball and soccer all the way through high school where it is one practice a week and one game a week. But those kids aren’t making the high school teams.

Anonymous wrote:Do you mean your child is individually competitive or a star? Probably nothing without a lot of hard work and talent.

There are plenty of team and individual sports you can play and have a competitive experience without it consuming your whole life unless you mean your child is at the top and is looking for college scholarships. My 9th grader has been on the same rec soccer team for years. They play and practice hard -- once a week for nine weeks in the fall and spring but that's it. She's also a club swimmer, but very much middle to back of the pack. She works hard and participates in meets but isn't chasing cut times and championships so again it's competitive but not a level of crazy.

Cross country and track are typically no cut at the high school level so your kids could have a competitive experience on a high school team. Will they be the ones to win? Who knows and probably almost certainly without a huge amount of work, but the competitive experience is there.