Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:You're disappointed that your child is in the 99th percentile?

I’m disappointed in the 135 part.

My other kid was in the 130s and he didn’t get in to AAP.

Because the teacher form (GBRS in the past/HOPE now) can tank or make a kid.

Kids in the 100s can get in with a good form, kids in the 130s won't with a bad one. This has been public info for years.

Prepping doesn't make a difference in the case of a kid in the 130s. Having a good form does.

If this is true, why bother giving students NNAT and Cogat? Why doesn't FCPS just assign students in AAP by teacher's referral

DP - I suppose they would have even more parent objections (or bribes) if they made it officially the AART or teacher's call. I agree that the GBRS matters a lot, and sometimes it's hard to know what they are going to say on it in advance. (Last year, the AART read a lot more than I did into DS's "creative" responses to some of the pullout exercises they did together, and he got a perfect GBRS rating.) I also agree with the poster who said that getting additional testing helps overcome a rejection. First, it shows that the parents are going to be a PITA if the kid doesn't get in, and second, it's another data point which may counter anything less than stellar in the rest of the packet.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're disappointed that your child is in the 99th percentile?

I’m disappointed in the 135 part.

My other kid was in the 130s and he didn’t get in to AAP.

Because the teacher form (GBRS in the past/HOPE now) can tank or make a kid.

Kids in the 100s can get in with a good form, kids in the 130s won't with a bad one. This has been public info for years.

Prepping doesn't make a difference in the case of a kid in the 130s. Having a good form does.

As for the HOEP scale, can someone help me understand how the social emotional traits help to identify a gifted student. I am talking about the factors listed in FCPS HOPE scale such as:
---- Is sensitive to larger or deeper issues of human concern.
---- Shows compassion for others.
My neighbor old granny has these gifted traits for sure.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're disappointed that your child is in the 99th percentile?

I’m disappointed in the 135 part.

My other kid was in the 130s and he didn’t get in to AAP.

Because the teacher form (GBRS in the past/HOPE now) can tank or make a kid.

Kids in the 100s can get in with a good form, kids in the 130s won't with a bad one. This has been public info for years.

Prepping doesn't make a difference in the case of a kid in the 130s. Having a good form does.

If this is true, why bother giving students NNAT and Cogat? Why doesn't FCPS just assign students in AAP by teacher's referral

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just appeal. Everyone gets in on appeal.

They don’t.

But they do usually if they support their claims with a private diagnosis

You come on here and spam the board with this nonsense all the time. This isn’t a thing and you need psychiatric help.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You're disappointed that your child is in the 99th percentile?

I’m disappointed in the 135 part.

My other kid was in the 130s and he didn’t get in to AAP.

Because the teacher form (GBRS in the past/HOPE now) can tank or make a kid.

Kids in the 100s can get in with a good form, kids in the 130s won't with a bad one. This has been public info for years.

Prepping doesn't make a difference in the case of a kid in the 130s. Having a good form does.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be crappy if schools have them and are deliberately waiting until Friday knowing it’s the same date as the deadline to parent refer. But I definitely don’t put it past our administration and AART.

It has been said here a million times. If you think your kid should be in AAP, you should prepare a parent referral packet regardless of whether your kid is in pool.

We all know. But it would be nice to know if testing showed particular strengths and/or weaknesses to address in the referral/questionnaire.

THIS! I am holding on to my referral until Friday after school to see if we receive scores / if we need to tweak our write-up to address potential gaps from testing.
It seems rather unfair at this point that many schools have scores and many don't. It creates a disparity in the system.

Our AART suggested if you thought you might want to submit more data you should send in the packet as soon as you are initially done, but then send a revision later. Just a thought.

I'll be honest -- I don't get the warm and fuzzies from our AART and I wouldn't take the chance. I have heard some administrative horror stories from this AART and I would not risk having the wrong referral submitted.

oops I meant administrative horror stories ABOUT this AART

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be crappy if schools have them and are deliberately waiting until Friday knowing it’s the same date as the deadline to parent refer. But I definitely don’t put it past our administration and AART.

It has been said here a million times. If you think your kid should be in AAP, you should prepare a parent referral packet regardless of whether your kid is in pool.

We all know. But it would be nice to know if testing showed particular strengths and/or weaknesses to address in the referral/questionnaire.

THIS! I am holding on to my referral until Friday after school to see if we receive scores / if we need to tweak our write-up to address potential gaps from testing.
It seems rather unfair at this point that many schools have scores and many don't. It creates a disparity in the system.

Our AART suggested if you thought you might want to submit more data you should send in the packet as soon as you are initially done, but then send a revision later. Just a thought.

I'll be honest -- I don't get the warm and fuzzies from our AART and I wouldn't take the chance. I have heard some administrative horror stories from this AART and I would not risk having the wrong referral submitted.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be crappy if schools have them and are deliberately waiting until Friday knowing it’s the same date as the deadline to parent refer. But I definitely don’t put it past our administration and AART.

It has been said here a million times. If you think your kid should be in AAP, you should prepare a parent referral packet regardless of whether your kid is in pool.

We all know. But it would be nice to know if testing showed particular strengths and/or weaknesses to address in the referral/questionnaire.

THIS! I am holding on to my referral until Friday after school to see if we receive scores / if we need to tweak our write-up to address potential gaps from testing.
It seems rather unfair at this point that many schools have scores and many don't. It creates a disparity in the system.

Our AART suggested if you thought you might want to submit more data you should send in the packet as soon as you are initially done, but then send a revision later. Just a thought.

Anonymous wrote:Nothing came home today and nothing posted on SIS. Why aren't these notifications more standardized across the county?

Our school's folders are earlier in the week and nothing came home special. Nothing on SIS. Oh well - our packet's been in for a couple weeks already now and if this kid isn't getting in she isn't getting in.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be crappy if schools have them and are deliberately waiting until Friday knowing it’s the same date as the deadline to parent refer. But I definitely don’t put it past our administration and AART.

It has been said here a million times. If you think your kid should be in AAP, you should prepare a parent referral packet regardless of whether your kid is in pool.

We all know. But it would be nice to know if testing showed particular strengths and/or weaknesses to address in the referral/questionnaire.

THIS! I am holding on to my referral until Friday after school to see if we receive scores / if we need to tweak our write-up to address potential gaps from testing.
It seems rather unfair at this point that many schools have scores and many don't. It creates a disparity in the system.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be crappy if schools have them and are deliberately waiting until Friday knowing it’s the same date as the deadline to parent refer. But I definitely don’t put it past our administration and AART.

It has been said here a million times. If you think your kid should be in AAP, you should prepare a parent referral packet regardless of whether your kid is in pool.

We all know. But it would be nice to know if testing showed particular strengths and/or weaknesses to address in the referral/questionnaire.

Anonymous wrote:It would be crappy if schools have them and are deliberately waiting until Friday knowing it’s the same date as the deadline to parent refer. But I definitely don’t put it past our administration and AART.

It has been said here a million times. If you think your kid should be in AAP, you should prepare a parent referral packet regardless of whether your kid is in pool.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Came home in my kid’s backpack.

Help me understand how a 135 is in the 99 percentile.

My kid’s scores:
NNAT 144
CogAT 135

We didn’t prep, but I wish we had. I’m disappointed.

Just by exposing the kids to the question types, they can improve their scores by typically 15%-20%.

What is the highest possible score for CogAT?

I believe 160

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Came home in my kid’s backpack.

Help me understand how a 135 is in the 99 percentile.

My kid’s scores:
NNAT 144
CogAT 135

We didn’t prep, but I wish we had. I’m disappointed.

Just by exposing the kids to the question types, they can improve their scores by typically 15%-20%.

What is the highest possible score for CogAT?

Anonymous wrote:Came home in my kid’s backpack.

Help me understand how a 135 is in the 99 percentile.

My kid’s scores:
NNAT 144
CogAT 135

We didn’t prep, but I wish we had. I’m disappointed.

Unfortunately the prep arms race has been raging for years. If you don't, you are doing your child a disservice.