Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 11:11     Subject: Williams ED Bloodbath?
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Anonymous wrote:Huh?


This is what is confusing to me. These schools only accept 1300 or so kids total at 8% acceptance rate. If you know 10 kids applying, chances are they will NOT be accepted.

Also, the students are self-selecting, as the same types of kids would be applying - so similar stats, background, etc (meaning a lot of rural kids in Texas are not )

They can only accept a set number of kids... So admission probably seems random and is pretty much a toss-up. (but if it makes us feel better, we can blame it on diversity and URM or first gen being "let" in )


Supposedly South Dakota is the spot to be to get into selective schools. My DC guidance counselor was joking that this is the best thing to do before freshman year to increase your chance of winning the T20+ lottery.

I would not be surprised if DCUM parents start to have one parent move out to have their kid attend school there to increase their chances to get into a T20+.



I heard it was Wyoming? To be honest, I know of so many people who have moved to either Wyoming or Montana in the last few years and are counting on this bump.


Jackson Hole, WY is the wealthiest county in the U.S.

It’s not an advantage if you’re a rich kid from JH. I have to think SD, ND, or ID would give you a better shot.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 11:11     Subject: Williams ED Bloodbath?
Anonymous wrote:Wish Naviance would have an indicator for all
Schools if those accepted were:

Athletes
URM
Legacy
First
Questbridge

Would be the fairest way for those applying to know their actual shot they have and plan accordingly.

Our school has never had anyone accepted who did not meet one of the above criteria so it significantly skews the results in Naviance / makes it looked more attainable than it is for an unhooked kid.


Fair….except to the kids who fall into those categories and have their personal information shared with the school. It doesn’t matter that the info is technically anonymous; the numbers are so low that it wouldn’t be hard to identify kids.

And, no, my kids don’t fit into any of these categories at the schools they’re applying to. But I have empathy. Good lord.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 11:09     Subject: Williams ED Bloodbath?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bloodbath? Wow. Take it easy.


Seriously !

There are 1000's of comparable colleges out there - get a grip

Isn’t that Williams’ motto? “One of thousands.”
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 11:08     Subject: Williams ED Bloodbath?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Huh?


This is what is confusing to me. These schools only accept 1300 or so kids total at 8% acceptance rate. If you know 10 kids applying, chances are they will NOT be accepted.

Also, the students are self-selecting, as the same types of kids would be applying - so similar stats, background, etc (meaning a lot of rural kids in Texas are not )



They can only accept a set number of kids... So admission probably seems random and is pretty much a toss-up. (but if it makes us feel better, we can blame it on diversity and URM or first gen being "let" in )


Supposedly South Dakota is the spot to be to get into selective schools. My DC guidance counselor was joking that this is the best thing to do before freshman year to increase your chance of winning the T20+ lottery.

I would not be surprised if DCUM parents start to have one parent move out to have their kid attend school there to increase their chances to get into a T20+.


This has happened on my block-one parent moved and kid got into Duke (legacy).
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 11:06     Subject: Williams ED Bloodbath?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Huh?


This is what is confusing to me. These schools only accept 1300 or so kids total at 8% acceptance rate. If you know 10 kids applying, chances are they will NOT be accepted.

Also, the students are self-selecting, as the same types of kids would be applying - so similar stats, background, etc (meaning a lot of rural kids in Texas are not )

They can only accept a set number of kids... So admission probably seems random and is pretty much a toss-up. (but if it makes us feel better, we can blame it on diversity and URM or first gen being "let" in )


Supposedly South Dakota is the spot to be to get into selective schools. My DC guidance counselor was joking that this is the best thing to do before freshman year to increase your chance of winning the T20+ lottery.

I would not be surprised if DCUM parents start to have one parent move out to have their kid attend school there to increase their chances to get into a T20+.



I heard it was Wyoming? To be honest, I know of so many people who have moved to either Wyoming or Montana in the last few years and are counting on this bump.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 11:00     Subject: Williams ED Bloodbath?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Huh?


This is what is confusing to me. These schools only accept 1300 or so kids total at 8% acceptance rate. If you know 10 kids applying, chances are they will NOT be accepted.

Also, the students are self-selecting, as the same types of kids would be applying - so similar stats, background, etc (meaning a lot of rural kids in Texas are not )

They can only accept a set number of kids... So admission probably seems random and is pretty much a toss-up. (but if it makes us feel better, we can blame it on diversity and URM or first gen being "let" in )


Supposedly South Dakota is the spot to be to get into selective schools. My DC guidance counselor was joking that this is the best thing to do before freshman year to increase your chance of winning the T20+ lottery.

I would not be surprised if DCUM parents start to have one parent move out to have their kid attend school there to increase their chances to get into a T20+.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 10:59     Subject: Williams ED Bloodbath?
Anonymous wrote:Bloodbath? Wow. Take it easy.


Seriously !

There are 1000's of comparable colleges out there - get a grip
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 10:59     Subject: Williams ED Bloodbath?
The school counselors have access to this function to identify “hooks”-at least in SCOiR-and they should be notifying parents!!
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 10:58     Subject: Williams ED Bloodbath?
Anonymous wrote:Wish Naviance would have an indicator for all
Schools if those accepted were:

Athletes
URM
Legacy
First
Questbridge

Would be the fairest way for those applying to know their actual shot they have and plan accordingly.

Our school has never had anyone accepted who did not meet one of the above criteria so it significantly skews the results in Naviance / makes it looked more attainable than it is for an unhooked kid.


College admissions and "fair?" For ED? Get real.

The elite colleges lock in who they want in ED to protect their yield and to ensure some level of revenue certainty.

Send the application and hope for the best.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 10:57     Subject: Williams ED Bloodbath?
Anonymous wrote:Wish Naviance would have an indicator for all
Schools if those accepted were:

Athletes
URM
Legacy
First
Questbridge

Would be the fairest way for those applying to know their actual shot they have and plan accordingly.

Our school has never had anyone accepted who did not meet one of the above criteria so it significantly skews the results in Naviance / makes it looked more attainable than it is for an unhooked kid.


such a great idea
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 10:52     Subject: Williams ED Bloodbath?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hearing stories of very few admitted ED1, many (unexpectedly) rejected outright and few deferrals.

Any personal insight?

What does this say about larger early decision trends?


What is an "(unexpectedly) rejected outright" decision? How is that possible in these times?

Legacy may be a light thumb on the scale for qualified applicants, but will not necessarily work for students who are in the lower range or below of admit stats.


Many athletes apply and get in ED, so between legacy and athletes prolly not much room for other very talented applicants.


Oh right - many questbridge kids at williams and obvi big first gen and URM pushes.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 10:51     Subject: Williams ED Bloodbath?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hearing stories of very few admitted ED1, many (unexpectedly) rejected outright and few deferrals.

Any personal insight?

What does this say about larger early decision trends?


What is an "(unexpectedly) rejected outright" decision? How is that possible in these times?

Legacy may be a light thumb on the scale for qualified applicants, but will not necessarily work for students who are in the lower range or below of admit stats.


Many athletes apply and get in ED, so between legacy and athletes prolly not much room for other very talented applicants.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 10:49     Subject: Williams ED Bloodbath?
Wish Naviance would have an indicator for all
Schools if those accepted were:

Athletes
URM
Legacy
First
Questbridge

Would be the fairest way for those applying to know their actual shot they have and plan accordingly.

Our school has never had anyone accepted who did not meet one of the above criteria so it significantly skews the results in Naviance / makes it looked more attainable than it is for an unhooked kid.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 10:48     Subject: Williams ED Bloodbath?
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Anonymous wrote:Bloodbath? Wow. Take it easy.


Exactly. There is actual violence in the world. I would edit your title. Rich, well connected people not getting into their perfect small LAC is NOT on the same level.


I agree. The title is incredibly inappropriate.

Chill, people.


👏


Naw. The title is way over the top dramatic.


I've been casually reading college posts on parent boards (first UrbanBaby and now DCUM) for over 10 years and literally every single year people get worked up about the "bloodbath" when kids they think are owed a spot don't get one. The entitlement and tone deafness is....appalling. But it absolutely nothing new.


Except acceptance rates have declined dramatically year over year for much of that time.


And? That doesn’t change PP’s point that people are entitled and tone deaf.
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 10:44     Subject: Williams ED Bloodbath?
Considering what is happening in the world, referring to results for early admissions as a “bloodbath” is tone deaf and offensive.