Anonymous
12/07/2023 08:31
Subject: Yale Admissions
Nobody has data on the new cycle following the new rules. Imagine what you want. You don't have facts yet. We'll know better next year
Anonymous
12/07/2023 08:28
Subject: Yale Admissions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OMG just give it a rest. I interview in this area and all the kids from my list who have gotten in in the last few years are neither rich legacies nor athletes. Your kid is not likely to get in because statistics are not on your side and you’re trying to find some “excuse” ahead of time. Just relax, go read a book of something.
Good to know. This is definitely not the case at our DC private. Genuine question for you as interviewer though: How would you know if the kids you interview are legacies? Are the interview requests marked as such.
I'd like to know this too. And even if you know whether they're legacies or not, how would you know how rich they are? I don't believe that you are interviewing in the DMV (meaning DC, Montgomery County, Northern VA) and have had several kids with no hooks (not URM, not athletes, not legacies, not from famous/influential families, not big donor, not first gen) get into Yale.
I honestly don’t care what you believe, but which is more believable, that there’s a mix of kids from all backgrounds or that there’s some massive conspiratorial plot that keeps all middle class white and Asian kids out? They are not even allowed to look at race any more. And yes, I live in one of the “good” zip codes around here.
It's not a belief, it's a fact. It's not a secret who goes to Yale and similar schools from this area. You may not even be aware of the hooks these kids you're interviewing have. I think that's why you're getting so defensive. People are URMs, but you'd never know it by looking at them. People have connections at universities that you may know nothing about. People may be uber wealthy, but you as a volunteer interviewer wouldn't have a clue. This is not debatable. You may not have realized the kids you were interviewing were hooked, but they were. You just don't understand all the hooks.
DP. This is full unsubstantiated conjecture and conspiracy theory. The kids we know getting in are all Asian and/or white (1 is an Asian/white mix). There are very few URM students on Ivy campuses overall. Mostly white and a large percentage of Asian. So, stop this crazy propaganda and spend your time helping your kid stand out as an applicant.
NP. Not unsubstantiated. And this is not primarily about URM (although it is that too). Legacy admissions have been HUGE in the Dc area. I know who the kids are from the last several years -- and know who their parents are. Enough said.
Anonymous
12/07/2023 08:25
Subject: Yale Admissions
Outside of Cornell, it seems 90% of Ivy admits we know are legacy/development case, URM, or athletes. Most legacies aren’t run of the mill legacies but also one of VIP/URM/Development. Occasionally a very smart kid who’s at the top of the class will get into a school like Yale, but normally they’re going to a school like Northwestern.
Anonymous
12/07/2023 08:12
Subject: Yale Admissions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OMG just give it a rest. I interview in this area and all the kids from my list who have gotten in in the last few years are neither rich legacies nor athletes. Your kid is not likely to get in because statistics are not on your side and you’re trying to find some “excuse” ahead of time. Just relax, go read a book of something.
Good to know. This is definitely not the case at our DC private. Genuine question for you as interviewer though: How would you know if the kids you interview are legacies? Are the interview requests marked as such.
I'd like to know this too. And even if you know whether they're legacies or not, how would you know how rich they are? I don't believe that you are interviewing in the DMV (meaning DC, Montgomery County, Northern VA) and have had several kids with no hooks (not URM, not athletes, not legacies, not from famous/influential families, not big donor, not first gen) get into Yale.
I honestly don’t care what you believe, but which is more believable, that there’s a mix of kids from all backgrounds or that there’s some massive conspiratorial plot that keeps all middle class white and Asian kids out? They are not even allowed to look at race any more. And yes, I live in one of the “good” zip codes around here.
It's not a belief, it's a fact. It's not a secret who goes to Yale and similar schools from this area. You may not even be aware of the hooks these kids you're interviewing have. I think that's why you're getting so defensive. People are URMs, but you'd never know it by looking at them. People have connections at universities that you may know nothing about. People may be uber wealthy, but you as a volunteer interviewer wouldn't have a clue. This is not debatable. You may not have realized the kids you were interviewing were hooked, but they were. You just don't understand all the hooks.
DP. This is full unsubstantiated conjecture and conspiracy theory. The kids we know getting in are all Asian and/or white (1 is an Asian/white mix). There are very few URM students on Ivy campuses overall. Mostly white and a large percentage of Asian. So, stop this crazy propaganda and spend your time helping your kid stand out as an applicant.
Anonymous
12/07/2023 07:23
Subject: Yale Admissions
Only person I know was URM + first gen
Anonymous
12/07/2023 06:24
Subject: Yale Admissions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OMG just give it a rest. I interview in this area and all the kids from my list who have gotten in in the last few years are neither rich legacies nor athletes. Your kid is not likely to get in because statistics are not on your side and you’re trying to find some “excuse” ahead of time. Just relax, go read a book of something.
Good to know. This is definitely not the case at our DC private. Genuine question for you as interviewer though: How would you know if the kids you interview are legacies? Are the interview requests marked as such.
I'd like to know this too. And even if you know whether they're legacies or not, how would you know how rich they are? I don't believe that you are interviewing in the DMV (meaning DC, Montgomery County, Northern VA) and have had several kids with no hooks (not URM, not athletes, not legacies, not from famous/influential families, not big donor, not first gen) get into Yale.
I honestly don’t care what you believe, but which is more believable, that there’s a mix of kids from all backgrounds or that there’s some massive conspiratorial plot that keeps all middle class white and Asian kids out? They are not even allowed to look at race any more. And yes, I live in one of the “good” zip codes around here.
It's not a belief, it's a fact. It's not a secret who goes to Yale and similar schools from this area. You may not even be aware of the hooks these kids you're interviewing have. I think that's why you're getting so defensive. People are URMs, but you'd never know it by looking at them. People have connections at universities that you may know nothing about. People may be uber wealthy, but you as a volunteer interviewer wouldn't have a clue. This is not debatable. You may not have realized the kids you were interviewing were hooked, but they were. You just don't understand all the hooks.
So it’s the tinfoil hat conspiracy theory for you, then.
Anonymous
12/07/2023 06:22
Subject: Yale Admissions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
While those with legacies are in an argument about how big a donations is needed to get a legacy kid in...the rest of us without any legacy hooks at Yale may as well just totally give up.
Legacies make up like 15% of the class.
recruited athletes make up 16% of the class.
Anonymous
12/07/2023 06:15
Subject: Yale Admissions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OMG just give it a rest. I interview in this area and all the kids from my list who have gotten in in the last few years are neither rich legacies nor athletes. Your kid is not likely to get in because statistics are not on your side and you’re trying to find some “excuse” ahead of time. Just relax, go read a book of something.
Good to know. This is definitely not the case at our DC private. Genuine question for you as interviewer though: How would you know if the kids you interview are legacies? Are the interview requests marked as such.
I'd like to know this too. And even if you know whether they're legacies or not, how would you know how rich they are? I don't believe that you are interviewing in the DMV (meaning DC, Montgomery County, Northern VA) and have had several kids with no hooks (not URM, not athletes, not legacies, not from famous/influential families, not big donor, not first gen) get into Yale.
I honestly don’t care what you believe, but which is more believable, that there’s a mix of kids from all backgrounds or that there’s some massive conspiratorial plot that keeps all middle class white and Asian kids out? They are not even allowed to look at race any more. And yes, I live in one of the “good” zip codes around here.
It's not a belief, it's a fact. It's not a secret who goes to Yale and similar schools from this area. You may not even be aware of the hooks these kids you're interviewing have. I think that's why you're getting so defensive. People are URMs, but you'd never know it by looking at them. People have connections at universities that you may know nothing about. People may be uber wealthy, but you as a volunteer interviewer wouldn't have a clue. This is not debatable. You may not have realized the kids you were interviewing were hooked, but they were. You just don't understand all the hooks.
Anonymous
12/07/2023 02:51
Subject: Yale Admissions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OMG just give it a rest. I interview in this area and all the kids from my list who have gotten in in the last few years are neither rich legacies nor athletes. Your kid is not likely to get in because statistics are not on your side and you’re trying to find some “excuse” ahead of time. Just relax, go read a book of something.
Good to know. This is definitely not the case at our DC private. Genuine question for you as interviewer though: How would you know if the kids you interview are legacies? Are the interview requests marked as such.
I'd like to know this too. And even if you know whether they're legacies or not, how would you know how rich they are? I don't believe that you are interviewing in the DMV (meaning DC, Montgomery County, Northern VA) and have had several kids with no hooks (not URM, not athletes, not legacies, not from famous/influential families, not big donor, not first gen) get into Yale.
I honestly don’t care what you believe, but which is more believable, that there’s a mix of kids from all backgrounds or that there’s some massive conspiratorial plot that keeps all middle class white and Asian kids out? They are not even allowed to look at race any more. And yes, I live in one of the “good” zip codes around here.
Anonymous
12/06/2023 23:35
Subject: Yale Admissions
Anonymous wrote:Are the admits from DC pretty much all legacies? Any non-legacy cases?
If non-legacy, then URM.
Sometimes URM and legacy both.
If your DC isn't one of these, good luck!!
Anonymous
12/06/2023 22:32
Subject: Yale Admissions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In our experience as legacy families, it is all about money and in terms of BIG BUCKs. like 7 to 8 digits. We never could afford to give that much and SURPRISE DS didn't get in as a EA applicant and triple legacy
That’s on your kid. It can’t be all about legacy and 7 or 8 figures. The legacy pool isn’t that wealthy.
No, it wasn't. first in their class. 36 ACT. etc. etc. etc. Eagle scout. He had everything but our family can't afford donations like that. He was a legacy through me at Harvard. Triple legacy at Yale, including faculty (tenured) and tenured faculty advocating with admissions. Didn't help They don't want white kids from an alleged "privileged bACKGROUND". HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THIS?
My kid is at Yale and I can attest that there are plenty of white and Asian kids from privileged backgrounds walking around campus
what a stupid, moronic response. PROVIDE STATS if you are going to contribute here.
Are you going to report me to the manager?
Your kid got rejected despite having multiple hooks. I get you’re desperate to blame something else for that. But the idea that your kid, already fortunate with legacy status at Harvard and Yale, was somehow a victim here is hilarious. I am truly enjoying the idea of them opening that portal and seeing they didn’t get in.
A family as thoroughly hooked as this can't seriously believe they've been screwed over because they're white.
That said there is nothing joyful in imagining their child's disappointment.
You’re just not doing it right then
Anonymous
12/06/2023 21:51
Subject: Yale Admissions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In our experience as legacy families, it is all about money and in terms of BIG BUCKs. like 7 to 8 digits. We never could afford to give that much and SURPRISE DS didn't get in as a EA applicant and triple legacy
That’s on your kid. It can’t be all about legacy and 7 or 8 figures. The legacy pool isn’t that wealthy.
No, it wasn't. first in their class. 36 ACT. etc. etc. etc. Eagle scout. He had everything but our family can't afford donations like that. He was a legacy through me at Harvard. Triple legacy at Yale, including faculty (tenured) and tenured faculty advocating with admissions. Didn't help They don't want white kids from an alleged "privileged bACKGROUND". HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THIS?
My kid is at Yale and I can attest that there are plenty of white and Asian kids from privileged backgrounds walking around campus
what a stupid, moronic response. PROVIDE STATS if you are going to contribute here.
Are you going to report me to the manager?
Your kid got rejected despite having multiple hooks. I get you’re desperate to blame something else for that. But the idea that your kid, already fortunate with legacy status at Harvard and Yale, was somehow a victim here is hilarious. I am truly enjoying the idea of them opening that portal and seeing they didn’t get in.
A family as thoroughly hooked as this can't seriously believe they've been screwed over because they're white.
That said there is nothing joyful in imagining their child's disappointment.
Anonymous
12/06/2023 21:43
Subject: Re:Yale Admissions
My legacy kid got in, and we have never donated. Not a penny.
Anonymous
12/06/2023 21:42
Subject: Yale Admissions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In our experience as legacy families, it is all about money and in terms of BIG BUCKs. like 7 to 8 digits. We never could afford to give that much and SURPRISE DS didn't get in as a EA applicant and triple legacy
That’s on your kid. It can’t be all about legacy and 7 or 8 figures. The legacy pool isn’t that wealthy.
No, it wasn't. first in their class. 36 ACT. etc. etc. etc. Eagle scout. He had everything but our family can't afford donations like that. He was a legacy through me at Harvard. Triple legacy at Yale, including faculty (tenured) and tenured faculty advocating with admissions. Didn't help They don't want white kids from an alleged "privileged bACKGROUND". HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THIS?
My kid is at Yale and I can attest that there are plenty of white and Asian kids from privileged backgrounds walking around campus
what a stupid, moronic response. PROVIDE STATS if you are going to contribute here.
Are you going to report me to the manager?
Troll Alert
Your kid got rejected despite having multiple hooks. I get you’re desperate to blame something else for that. But the idea that your kid, already fortunate with legacy status at Harvard and Yale, was somehow a victim here is hilarious. I am truly enjoying the idea of them opening that portal and seeing they didn’t get in.
Anonymous
12/06/2023 21:14
Subject: Yale Admissions
Anonymous wrote:Seeing this thread. Realizing it was a BIG mistake to apply early to Yale. Top kid but zero hooks! Oh well..
Good luck! My kid was thinking of it, but decided to do RD instead and pick an EA with a little bit better acceptance rates.