Anonymous
12/02/2023 14:25
Subject: Almost 4 year-old girl poops pants 2-4 times daily
PS: By that I mean she isn't withdrawing or hiding things, although it's likely to get to that point if not addressed.
Anonymous
12/02/2023 14:24
Subject: Almost 4 year-old girl poops pants 2-4 times daily
NP.
Yes, OP, she is not there yet. But this is a very common thing that's often missed by general pediatricians (not by pediatric GI docs, though).
/general pediatrician
Yes, OP, she is not there yet. But this is a very common thing that's often missed by general pediatricians (not by pediatric GI docs, though).
/general pediatrician
Anonymous
12/02/2023 14:08
Subject: Re:Almost 4 year-old girl poops pants 2-4 times daily
Anonymous wrote:google encopresis. We struggled with this for a whole year with our then toddler.
The solution was enemas (using lots of water with a hot water bottle set up, not just a store kit) along with laxatives to clear out the blocked colon. It required a lot of patience and took a long time but it did resolve.
OP here—I searched this and the symptoms don’t sound like my daughter. The below are the symptoms I found. Possibly the second one is her, but I am not sure if her stooling is “involuntary” or not. When I ask her about accidents the conversation is something like this: “Ms. Amy said you had an accident in the morning, do you remember what it felt like before it happened?” “yes, I was playing with Maya outside.” “Did you ask to go to the potty?” “No playing isn’t potty time.”
Symptoms I found (in case helpful to someone else).
-Loose, watery stools
-Involuntary stooling, or needing to have a bowel movement with little or no warning, which may soil underwear when a child cannot get to the bathroom in time
-Scratching or rubbing of the anal area due to irritation by watery stools
-Withdrawal from friends, school, and/or family
-Hiding their soiled underwear
Anonymous
12/02/2023 13:34
Subject: Re:Almost 4 year-old girl poops pants 2-4 times daily
google encopresis. We struggled with this for a whole year with our then toddler.
The solution was enemas (using lots of water with a hot water bottle set up, not just a store kit) along with laxatives to clear out the blocked colon. It required a lot of patience and took a long time but it did resolve.
The solution was enemas (using lots of water with a hot water bottle set up, not just a store kit) along with laxatives to clear out the blocked colon. It required a lot of patience and took a long time but it did resolve.
Anonymous
12/02/2023 13:27
Subject: Almost 4 year-old girl poops pants 2-4 times daily
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Make her clean it up
+100 also I would not her hold the barbie clearly she's not motivated by this. I'm wondering if op is making a big deal of these accidents and she likes the attention even negative. Act like it's not a big deal but tell her you are no longer cleaning it up she will have to.
A toddler?!! Are you all remembering just how little a toddler is? How cruel.
The cruelty and the shaming is awful. And it won't help on top of it all.
Who said anything about "shaming"? Of the the PP's said not to make a big deal of it but tell her you won't be cleaning it up how is this shamming? You people...
No- you people (person).
The child is “almost 4”. That’s preschool age. She’s having accidents and it’s beyond her control. That you would think it is ok to make her/him clean it up is disturbing.
Anonymous
12/02/2023 11:42
Subject: Almost 4 year-old girl poops pants 2-4 times daily
My first reaction would not be that this child has celiac disease. Almost all little kids will poop in a pull-up if given the opportunity. I’d ditch the pull-ups. It may be tough, but it’s the only way to learn. If you can do bare-bottom time, it also helps.
Anonymous
12/02/2023 11:37
Subject: Almost 4 year-old girl poops pants 2-4 times daily
Sit her on the toilet around the times she soils herself.
Anonymous
12/02/2023 11:33
Subject: Almost 4 year-old girl poops pants 2-4 times daily
Anonymous wrote:OP, I’m a first time poster on this thread. The point here is that many people have been through the pediatrician saying it’s no big deal and yet the issue persisted. It’s likely constipation and it needs to be addressed or you are going to be dealing with this for a looonng time. I know from firsthand experience as our pediatrician said the same.
Yup, super common. I feel like we got lucky because our pediatrician pretty immediately said "this might be poop withholding, which is common with toilet training, here's how to use miralax to ensure it doesn't happen and prevent constipation issues." But I think that might be rare because we have had so many friends who went through similar things and their pediatrician never even mentioned constipation. But when they told us of their issues, we said "oh that sounds like what happened with us, here's what we did" and it turns out it worked for them too.
I think it's a relatively recent development in understanding toilet training issues. So an older pediatrician who doesn't necessarily read up on every new development in toileting might not really have this on their radar. Our pediatrician has kids just a few years older than my own and I think it helps with ensuring she's up to date on things because she quite recently went through a lot of this with her own kids.
Anonymous
12/02/2023 11:32
Subject: Almost 4 year-old girl poops pants 2-4 times daily
Anonymous wrote:OP, get a celiac blood test for her to rule out celiac disease. One strong symptom is odd symptoms of bms.
This, this, this. PLEASE rule out celiac.
Anonymous
12/02/2023 11:25
Subject: Almost 4 year-old girl poops pants 2-4 times daily
OP, I’m a first time poster on this thread. The point here is that many people have been through the pediatrician saying it’s no big deal and yet the issue persisted. It’s likely constipation and it needs to be addressed or you are going to be dealing with this for a looonng time. I know from firsthand experience as our pediatrician said the same.
Anonymous
12/02/2023 11:02
Subject: Almost 4 year-old girl poops pants 2-4 times daily
Anonymous wrote:OP here—I think I am going to try this: first I’ll go back to the pediatrian and discuss what’s been going on. I’ll be sure to ask her: how can a GI issue be rules out?; At what point would you recommend a specialist.
Second, I’ll do whatever the pediatrian suggests.
Third, (and assuming pediatrian agrees) I am going to have her wear “thin” underwear all the time, including at pre-school. (The weigh of a pullup or “thick” undies seems to make sensing difficult.) I am also going to ask that they make sure she uses a stool on the potty and that she sits for 5 min before going on the playground. (From talking to her I know that most of her accidents happen on the playground.)
I think this is the best I can do.
I suspect there is one mom posting to this whose kid has some unusual GI diagnosis. I don’t think that’s what going on. I’ll defer however to my pediatrician who I trust and know to be very knowledgeable and experienced.
If there is something else anyone suggests to do, especially with the pre-school, I am open to suggestions.
It’s lots of moms posting about constipation because we have BTDT.
Anonymous
12/02/2023 11:01
Subject: Almost 4 year-old girl poops pants 2-4 times daily
Yes OP asks for help was provided answers and she doesn't like any of them, calls some of them cruel. Figure your own chit out then, WTF do you want op? Keep cleaning up your 4 years old poop 4x a day good luck!!! Know that there will no be a slot for her in school with diapers when she's 5!
Please!! I am the OP and I didn’t call any suggestions “cruel”! I am surprised by all the people who think I need a GI specialist because I went to the doctor and the doctor said “I don’t see a medical issue that is preventing [name] from stooling in the potty.” Like I said, I am going back and will ask more specific questions. I posted here to try to get tips like the one that suggested saying “We’ll leave for the park after you use the potty.” Anything else like that, please send to me. Any hate, keep to yourself.
Anonymous
12/02/2023 10:56
Subject: Almost 4 year-old girl poops pants 2-4 times daily
She's probably afraid of the toilet.
Anonymous
12/02/2023 10:52
Subject: Almost 4 year-old girl poops pants 2-4 times daily
Behavior is communication. Something is going on. Does it hurt when she poops? Is she afraid to poop in the potty? She’s not just being willful for funsies.
Anonymous
12/02/2023 10:42
Subject: Almost 4 year-old girl poops pants 2-4 times daily
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Make her clean it up
+100 also I would not her hold the barbie clearly she's not motivated by this. I'm wondering if op is making a big deal of these accidents and she likes the attention even negative. Act like it's not a big deal but tell her you are no longer cleaning it up she will have to.
A toddler?!! Are you all remembering just how little a toddler is? How cruel.
The cruelty and the shaming is awful. And it won't help on top of it all.
Who said anything about "shaming"? Of the the PP's said not to make a big deal of it but tell her you won't be cleaning it up how is this shamming? You people...