Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a different Bethesda cajacking -- an armed carjacking of a 72 year old woman on Tuesday -- there has been an arrest of 3 suspects:

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=44490

The 18 year old lives in Bethesda (near the Safeway on Arlington Road)... hardly an "under-resourced" community.

No details on the 15 and 16 year olds arrested, but both of those had been invovled in different armed carjackings a few weeks ago.

And as a reminder, MD passed Juvenile Justice Reform last year, which lessened penalties and punishments for juvenile offenders:
https://www.aecf.org/blog/maryland-enacts-sweeping-youth-justice-reforms

Thank you for posting this, pp. Fascinating reading. I have a couple of questions maybe you or another informed poster could answer.

1. Does the Juvenile Justice Reform passed in MD require any benchmarks to assess how the passage has affected youth crime and recidivism?

2. Do you know how carjacking is classified in crime reports? I do not see it in recent FBI nor local reports. Is it lumped under assault or auto theft or both?

3. Did DC pass Juvenile Justice Reform in advance of MD? How similar are the two pieces of legislation? What about VA?

Thank you!

I don't know about DC vs MD justice reform.

For the carjacking mentioned above, the 18 year old (juvenile records aren't public) was charged with:

Charge Description: ROBBERY Charge Class:Felony
Charge Description: ASSAULT-SEC DEGREE Charge Class:Misdemeanor
Charge Description: CARJACKING Charge Class:Felony
Charge Description: CON-CARJACKING Charge Class:Misdemeanor

So at least in Maryland, there is a specific charge for carjacking it appears.

The text of Juvennile Justice Reform in MD is here:
https://legiscan.com/MD/text/SB691/2022

It looks like it adds some reporting, but it's a bit wishy-washy: "requiring the Governor’s Office of Crime Prevention, Youth, and Victim Services to
request and analyze certain data, develop a model policy for diversion of juveniles
from the juvenile and criminal justice systems, and submit certain reports"

I don't see any specific report on their site about youth crime:
https://goccp.maryland.gov/
There's some on at-risk youth diversion, but it's short and lacking in data.

There is some recognition that Juvenile Justice Reform needs reform. Many articles on it, like this:
https://www.marylandmatters.org/2023/11/10/lawmakers-assess-whether-juvenile-services-are-effective-but-law-enforcement-could-help-too/

Anonymous wrote:For a different Bethesda cajacking -- an armed carjacking of a 72 year old woman on Tuesday -- there has been an arrest of 3 suspects:

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=44490

The 18 year old lives in Bethesda (near the Safeway on Arlington Road)... hardly an "under-resourced" community.

No details on the 15 and 16 year olds arrested, but both of those had been invovled in different armed carjackings a few weeks ago.

And as a reminder, MD passed Juvenile Justice Reform last year, which lessened penalties and punishments for juvenile offenders:
https://www.aecf.org/blog/maryland-enacts-sweeping-youth-justice-reforms

Thank you for posting this, pp. Fascinating reading. I have a couple of questions maybe you or another informed poster could answer.

1. Does the Juvenile Justice Reform passed in MD require any benchmarks to assess how the passage has affected youth crime and recidivism?

2. Do you know how carjacking is classified in crime reports? I do not see it in recent FBI nor local reports. Is it lumped under assault or auto theft or both?

3. Did DC pass Juvenile Justice Reform in advance of MD? How similar are the two pieces of legislation? What about VA?

Thank you!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a different Bethesda cajacking -- an armed carjacking of a 72 year old woman on Tuesday -- there has been an arrest of 3 suspects:

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=44490

The 18 year old lives in Bethesda (near the Safeway on Arlington Road)... hardly an "under-resourced" community.

No details on the 15 and 16 year olds arrested, but both of those had been invovled in different armed carjackings a few weeks ago.

And as a reminder, MD passed Juvenile Justice Reform last year, which lessened penalties and punishments for juvenile offenders:
https://www.aecf.org/blog/maryland-enacts-sweeping-youth-justice-reforms

Politicians truly are clueless. How is this beneficial to anyone other than criminals?

It meets equity goals. The politicians cited that when voting for the bill.

This is terrible because equity requires discrimination.

at this point, discriminate against criminals..doesn't sound so bad!

I agree but MoCo is run by progressives who believe in critical theory. Under critical theory, anyone who is oppressed isn't committing crime; they're enacting justice. This insane mindset will do nothing but encourage more crime.

my only hope is that this is a wake up call for the wealth in moco. money will drive these decisions but if everyone is complacent, then you'll let the takoma park mafia take over.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a different Bethesda cajacking -- an armed carjacking of a 72 year old woman on Tuesday -- there has been an arrest of 3 suspects:

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=44490

The 18 year old lives in Bethesda (near the Safeway on Arlington Road)... hardly an "under-resourced" community.

No details on the 15 and 16 year olds arrested, but both of those had been invovled in different armed carjackings a few weeks ago.

And as a reminder, MD passed Juvenile Justice Reform last year, which lessened penalties and punishments for juvenile offenders:
https://www.aecf.org/blog/maryland-enacts-sweeping-youth-justice-reforms

Politicians truly are clueless. How is this beneficial to anyone other than criminals?

It meets equity goals. The politicians cited that when voting for the bill.

This is terrible because equity requires discrimination.

at this point, discriminate against criminals..doesn't sound so bad!

I agree but MoCo is run by progressives who believe in critical theory. Under critical theory, anyone who is oppressed isn't committing crime; they're enacting justice. This insane mindset will do nothing but encourage more crime.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a different Bethesda cajacking -- an armed carjacking of a 72 year old woman on Tuesday -- there has been an arrest of 3 suspects:

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=44490

The 18 year old lives in Bethesda (near the Safeway on Arlington Road)... hardly an "under-resourced" community.

No details on the 15 and 16 year olds arrested, but both of those had been invovled in different armed carjackings a few weeks ago.

And as a reminder, MD passed Juvenile Justice Reform last year, which lessened penalties and punishments for juvenile offenders:
https://www.aecf.org/blog/maryland-enacts-sweeping-youth-justice-reforms

Politicians truly are clueless. How is this beneficial to anyone other than criminals?

It meets equity goals. The politicians cited that when voting for the bill.

This is terrible because equity requires discrimination.

at this point, discriminate against criminals..doesn't sound so bad!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a different Bethesda cajacking -- an armed carjacking of a 72 year old woman on Tuesday -- there has been an arrest of 3 suspects:

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=44490

The 18 year old lives in Bethesda (near the Safeway on Arlington Road)... hardly an "under-resourced" community.

No details on the 15 and 16 year olds arrested, but both of those had been invovled in different armed carjackings a few weeks ago.

And as a reminder, MD passed Juvenile Justice Reform last year, which lessened penalties and punishments for juvenile offenders:
https://www.aecf.org/blog/maryland-enacts-sweeping-youth-justice-reforms

Politicians truly are clueless. How is this beneficial to anyone other than criminals?

It meets equity goals. The politicians cited that when voting for the bill.

This is terrible because equity requires discrimination.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For a different Bethesda cajacking -- an armed carjacking of a 72 year old woman on Tuesday -- there has been an arrest of 3 suspects:

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=44490

The 18 year old lives in Bethesda (near the Safeway on Arlington Road)... hardly an "under-resourced" community.

No details on the 15 and 16 year olds arrested, but both of those had been invovled in different armed carjackings a few weeks ago.

And as a reminder, MD passed Juvenile Justice Reform last year, which lessened penalties and punishments for juvenile offenders:
https://www.aecf.org/blog/maryland-enacts-sweeping-youth-justice-reforms

Politicians truly are clueless. How is this beneficial to anyone other than criminals?

It meets equity goals. The politicians cited that when voting for the bill.

Anonymous wrote:For a different Bethesda cajacking -- an armed carjacking of a 72 year old woman on Tuesday -- there has been an arrest of 3 suspects:

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=44490

The 18 year old lives in Bethesda (near the Safeway on Arlington Road)... hardly an "under-resourced" community.

No details on the 15 and 16 year olds arrested, but both of those had been invovled in different armed carjackings a few weeks ago.

And as a reminder, MD passed Juvenile Justice Reform last year, which lessened penalties and punishments for juvenile offenders:
https://www.aecf.org/blog/maryland-enacts-sweeping-youth-justice-reforms

Politicians truly are clueless. How is this beneficial to anyone other than criminals?

For a different Bethesda cajacking -- an armed carjacking of a 72 year old woman on Tuesday -- there has been an arrest of 3 suspects:

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=44490

The 18 year old lives in Bethesda (near the Safeway on Arlington Road)... hardly an "under-resourced" community.

No details on the 15 and 16 year olds arrested, but both of those had been invovled in different armed carjackings a few weeks ago.

And as a reminder, MD passed Juvenile Justice Reform last year, which lessened penalties and punishments for juvenile offenders:
https://www.aecf.org/blog/maryland-enacts-sweeping-youth-justice-reforms

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If we stopped sending money to other countries for warfare, we could afford to pay people livable wages and healthcare and educational expenses that would make them want to become productive members of society. Paying someone $17/hour when they have a family or want to start a family is not sustainable, they can make more money stealing, looting, and robbing.

dont be ridiculous, US' defense budget is almost 1trillion a year and is all spent in the US. money sent to Ukraine is a negligible fraction and, as indicated by the WP today https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/29/ukraine-military-aid-american-economy-boost/, most of the money allocated to Ukraine stays in the US. we should cut the defense budget and significantly, and good luck with that. also, none of the people arrested for carjackings show that they do it because they are working low wage jobs and need to support their families. many in DC are done by kids in or barely out of MS that use the cars for joyrides and abandon them right after

Agree. And,

- shouldn’t these kids from under-resourced communities get a second chance? Law enforcement is not the answer.

They've gotten a second, third and fourth chance. Arrest them and charge them as adults. Arrest their terrible parents too.

Why is their safety more of a priority than my families? After all, we do contribute significantly more to society as a whole...AND we obey the law. Shocker!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If we stopped sending money to other countries for warfare, we could afford to pay people livable wages and healthcare and educational expenses that would make them want to become productive members of society. Paying someone $17/hour when they have a family or want to start a family is not sustainable, they can make more money stealing, looting, and robbing.

dont be ridiculous, US' defense budget is almost 1trillion a year and is all spent in the US. money sent to Ukraine is a negligible fraction and, as indicated by the WP today https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/29/ukraine-military-aid-american-economy-boost/, most of the money allocated to Ukraine stays in the US. we should cut the defense budget and significantly, and good luck with that. also, none of the people arrested for carjackings show that they do it because they are working low wage jobs and need to support their families. many in DC are done by kids in or barely out of MS that use the cars for joyrides and abandon them right after

Agree. And,

- shouldn’t these kids from under-resourced communities get a second chance? Law enforcement is not the answer.

Absolutely not. They are old enough to know better. And lock up their irresponsible parent/s too. This is why crime is so high---irresponsible people becoming parents who wouldn't know a law if it hit them in the head.

+1 Preach.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If we stopped sending money to other countries for warfare, we could afford to pay people livable wages and healthcare and educational expenses that would make them want to become productive members of society. Paying someone $17/hour when they have a family or want to start a family is not sustainable, they can make more money stealing, looting, and robbing.

dont be ridiculous, US' defense budget is almost 1trillion a year and is all spent in the US. money sent to Ukraine is a negligible fraction and, as indicated by the WP today https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/29/ukraine-military-aid-american-economy-boost/, most of the money allocated to Ukraine stays in the US. we should cut the defense budget and significantly, and good luck with that. also, none of the people arrested for carjackings show that they do it because they are working low wage jobs and need to support their families. many in DC are done by kids in or barely out of MS that use the cars for joyrides and abandon them right after

Agree. And,

- shouldn’t these kids from under-resourced communities get a second chance? Law enforcement is not the answer.

Absolutely not. They are old enough to know better. And lock up their irresponsible parent/s too. This is why crime is so high---irresponsible people becoming parents who wouldn't know a law if it hit them in the head.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If we stopped sending money to other countries for warfare, we could afford to pay people livable wages and healthcare and educational expenses that would make them want to become productive members of society. Paying someone $17/hour when they have a family or want to start a family is not sustainable, they can make more money stealing, looting, and robbing.

dont be ridiculous, US' defense budget is almost 1trillion a year and is all spent in the US. money sent to Ukraine is a negligible fraction and, as indicated by the WP today https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/29/ukraine-military-aid-american-economy-boost/, most of the money allocated to Ukraine stays in the US. we should cut the defense budget and significantly, and good luck with that. also, none of the people arrested for carjackings show that they do it because they are working low wage jobs and need to support their families. many in DC are done by kids in or barely out of MS that use the cars for joyrides and abandon them right after

Agree. And,

- shouldn’t these kids from under-resourced communities get a second chance? Law enforcement is not the answer.

Businesses will move elsewhere. Rev falls. Taxes increase to make up shortfall for giveaways. Bring back broken windows.

Carjackings are creeping up in Bethesda, even for older and inexpensive vehicles. Stay alert and warn your kids.