Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 13:56     Subject: Red lanes are spreading from DC to MD

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll bet they take another lane from OGR and make it a bus only lane, leaving only one lane left for cars.

Think how green the county will be with 2 lanes sitting almost totally unused and the remaining lane choked with cars idling in traffic 24/7/365.

Good job!


People in D.C. just drive in the bus lanes. It's not that big of deal.


https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/bus-stop-lane-fines-washington-dc-metro-wmata/65-ce8d7140-aee2-41c9-a04a-6a0ea816b5bf


Love how we can't get our elected leaders to lift a finger to do something about out of control crime, but they're more than happy to go after average tax paying citizens who dare drive in bus lanes that are empty 99.5 percent of the time.


It's illegal to drive in the bus lane. Are you saying that drivers are scofflaws?
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 13:47     Subject: Red lanes are spreading from DC to MD

How long until a FedEx truck is sitting in the bus lane?
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 13:41     Subject: Red lanes are spreading from DC to MD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ll bet they take another lane from OGR and make it a bus only lane, leaving only one lane left for cars.

Think how green the county will be with 2 lanes sitting almost totally unused and the remaining lane choked with cars idling in traffic 24/7/365.

Good job!


People in D.C. just drive in the bus lanes. It's not that big of deal.


https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/bus-stop-lane-fines-washington-dc-metro-wmata/65-ce8d7140-aee2-41c9-a04a-6a0ea816b5bf


Love how we can't get our elected leaders to lift a finger to do something about out of control crime, but they're more than happy to go after average tax paying citizens who dare drive in bus lanes that are empty 99.5 percent of the time.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 13:20     Subject: Re:Red lanes are spreading from DC to MD

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Anonymous wrote:Have you ever ridden the bus? People hate the bus because it takes forever and a day to show up, and then there's bus stops every 12 feet because, heaven forbid, people have to do some walking. Car traffic is not the reason people don't want to take the bus.


You: the bus is bad because it's slow
Also you: one of the main things that slows buses is not the reason for the bus being bad


i used to ride the bus every day for many years. if i had to make a list of reasons why it sucked and hopefully i will never do it again, car traffic would not be in the top 20. there are SO many other reasons to hate the bus.



Such as the threat of violence? Can't tell you how many buses I've been on where people start screaming obscenities at each other for reasons that are difficult to understand.


Riding the bus is scary.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 13:18     Subject: Red lanes are spreading from DC to MD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ll bet they take another lane from OGR and make it a bus only lane, leaving only one lane left for cars.

Think how green the county will be with 2 lanes sitting almost totally unused and the remaining lane choked with cars idling in traffic 24/7/365.

Good job!


People in D.C. just drive in the bus lanes. It's not that big of deal.


https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/bus-stop-lane-fines-washington-dc-metro-wmata/65-ce8d7140-aee2-41c9-a04a-6a0ea816b5bf


just hide your license plate. no one cares.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 13:08     Subject: Red lanes are spreading from DC to MD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ll bet they take another lane from OGR and make it a bus only lane, leaving only one lane left for cars.

Think how green the county will be with 2 lanes sitting almost totally unused and the remaining lane choked with cars idling in traffic 24/7/365.

Good job!


People in D.C. just drive in the bus lanes. It's not that big of deal.


https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/bus-stop-lane-fines-washington-dc-metro-wmata/65-ce8d7140-aee2-41c9-a04a-6a0ea816b5bf
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 13:08     Subject: Re:Red lanes are spreading from DC to MD

Anonymous wrote:Have you ever ridden the bus? People hate the bus because it takes forever and a day to show up, and then there's bus stops every 12 feet because, heaven forbid, people have to do some walking. Car traffic is not the reason people don't want to take the bus.


Hello. This is what bus projects are supposed to do - make buses faster and more reliable. That includes dedicated lanes, boarding platforms, and yes, removing stops so the bus stops fewer times.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 13:07     Subject: Red lanes are spreading from DC to MD

Anonymous wrote:I’ll bet they take another lane from OGR and make it a bus only lane, leaving only one lane left for cars.

Think how green the county will be with 2 lanes sitting almost totally unused and the remaining lane choked with cars idling in traffic 24/7/365.

Good job!


People in D.C. just drive in the bus lanes. It's not that big of deal.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 13:06     Subject: Red lanes are spreading from DC to MD

Imagine thinking that dedicated bus lanes are a DC invention

For context: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rede_Integrada_de_Transporte
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 13:04     Subject: Red lanes are spreading from DC to MD

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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Dedicated bus lanes are a waste of resources. They’re used a handful of times in an hour. Meanwhile you’re backing up traffic.


+1

Same with bike lanes. The purpose of our transportation system should be to move as many people around as efficiently as possible. It shouldn't be to put your thumb on the scale for modes of transportation favored by young lefties that few people actually want to use.


Buses are very efficient. Bicycles are very efficient. Cars are very inefficient.


Do you think creating special lanes for people who want to get around via horseback would be efficient?

Creating dedicated lanes for ways of getting around that only a tiny share of people actually use is the definition of inefficiency.


Of course the most efficient thing of all would be to fund the subway. But instead we starve it and focus on means of transportation the vast majority of people will never ever use.


"Metro’s funding shortfall next fiscal year is so steep that even an additional $300 million couldn’t stave off severe service cuts that would include the elimination of bus routes, reduced rail hours, longer train waits, and station or station entrance closures.

Metro leaders on Tuesday released multiple outlines for reduced service for fiscal 2025 that take into account a projected $750 million budget shortfall, as well as what would happen if Metro received no funding increase or only a partial increase. While the plans are only a possible framework and could change dramatically before July 1, the start of the new fiscal year, Metro officials said the proposals include carefully “targeted” cuts to minimize effects on the most passengers.

The plans are intended to show how quickly transit service in the region could deteriorate without a huge injection of subsidies from jurisdictions across the Washington region. The outlines are the transit system’s latest attempt to sound alarms about the depths of its financial troubles, a problem hastened by the end of federal pandemic aid."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2023/10/24/metro-budget-service-stations/

Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 13:04     Subject: Re:Red lanes are spreading from DC to MD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Have you ever ridden the bus? People hate the bus because it takes forever and a day to show up, and then there's bus stops every 12 feet because, heaven forbid, people have to do some walking. Car traffic is not the reason people don't want to take the bus.


+1

At a certain point walking is faster than the bus.


Bus lanes speed up bus trips.


Buses run roughly every 30 minutes. Are they adding more buses in the rotation? Or just that instead of being late by 5 minutes, they will just be on time at 30 minutes. I now drive, but I rode the bus for most of my life. Bus lanes won’t make a difference unless they’re adding more buses to the route which they won’t do.


You were never on any buses that were delayed by car traffic or by having to merge back into car traffic? I sure have. And being on time is better than being late.

Ha ha, good one. Have you never driven near a bus? It’s amazing how quickly they merge lanes. They can afford to play chicken with other drivers because bus beats car.


A great example of how the dedicated bus lanes will help car drivers.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 13:01     Subject: Re:Red lanes are spreading from DC to MD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Have you ever ridden the bus? People hate the bus because it takes forever and a day to show up, and then there's bus stops every 12 feet because, heaven forbid, people have to do some walking. Car traffic is not the reason people don't want to take the bus.


+1

At a certain point walking is faster than the bus.


Bus lanes speed up bus trips.


Buses run roughly every 30 minutes. Are they adding more buses in the rotation? Or just that instead of being late by 5 minutes, they will just be on time at 30 minutes. I now drive, but I rode the bus for most of my life. Bus lanes won’t make a difference unless they’re adding more buses to the route which they won’t do.


You were never on any buses that were delayed by car traffic or by having to merge back into car traffic? I sure have. And being on time is better than being late.

Ha ha, good one. Have you never driven near a bus? It’s amazing how quickly they merge lanes. They can afford to play chicken with other drivers because bus beats car.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 12:52     Subject: Red lanes are spreading from DC to MD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dedicated bus lanes are a waste of resources. They’re used a handful of times in an hour. Meanwhile you’re backing up traffic.


+1

Same with bike lanes. The purpose of our transportation system should be to move as many people around as efficiently as possible. It shouldn't be to put your thumb on the scale for modes of transportation favored by young lefties that few people actually want to use.


Buses are very efficient. Bicycles are very efficient. Cars are very inefficient.


Do you think creating special lanes for people who want to get around via horseback would be efficient?

Creating dedicated lanes for ways of getting around that only a tiny share of people actually use is the definition of inefficiency.


Of course the most efficient thing of all would be to fund the subway. But instead we starve it and focus on means of transportation the vast majority of people will never ever use.


We're funding WMATA - which includes buses.

https://www.wmata.com/schedules/timetables/upload/C2,4_230625.pdf
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 12:50     Subject: Red lanes are spreading from DC to MD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dedicated bus lanes are a waste of resources. They’re used a handful of times in an hour. Meanwhile you’re backing up traffic.


+1

Same with bike lanes. The purpose of our transportation system should be to move as many people around as efficiently as possible. It shouldn't be to put your thumb on the scale for modes of transportation favored by young lefties that few people actually want to use.


Buses are very efficient. Bicycles are very efficient. Cars are very inefficient.


Do you think creating special lanes for people who want to get around via horseback would be efficient?

Creating dedicated lanes for ways of getting around that only a tiny share of people actually use is the definition of inefficiency.


Of course the most efficient thing of all would be to fund the subway. But instead we starve it and focus on means of transportation the vast majority of people will never ever use.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 12:41     Subject: Re:Red lanes are spreading from DC to MD

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Have you ever ridden the bus? People hate the bus because it takes forever and a day to show up, and then there's bus stops every 12 feet because, heaven forbid, people have to do some walking. Car traffic is not the reason people don't want to take the bus.


You: the bus is bad because it's slow
Also you: one of the main things that slows buses is not the reason for the bus being bad


i used to ride the bus every day for many years. if i had to make a list of reasons why it sucked and hopefully i will never do it again, car traffic would not be in the top 20. there are SO many other reasons to hate the bus.



Such as the threat of violence? Can't tell you how many buses I've been on where people start screaming obscenities at each other for reasons that are difficult to understand.


This. I get the sense that the folks pushing dedicated lanes have never actually taken the bus.


The RideOn folks don't take the bus? How about that.