it is unfair to defer excessive numbers of applicants by giving them nothing but false hopes.

I think all schools should have a cap on their waitlists, say 20% of their target enrollments?

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Anonymous wrote:This year could be even more challenging, as they have received 5% more EA+ED applications than last year.

Anonymous wrote:For UVA class 2027, the OOS acceptance rate is 13% with 41,330 completed applications.

Where did your 20% come from?

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Anonymous wrote:No one ever gets in from our OOS school...last year, 14 applied, ONE admitted They had a 4.6 GPA and a 36 ACT. The kid with the 4.5 GPA and 35 got denied. Nuts!

Stop spreading misinformation. OOS acceptance rate is about 20%.

ED is up a little so acceptance rate will go down. They also won’t be deferring so they may be able to accept a few more students but perhaps they will just waitlist more.

Anonymous wrote:This year could be even more challenging, as they have received 5% more EA+ED applications than last year.

Anonymous wrote:For UVA class 2027, the OOS acceptance rate is 13% with 41,330 completed applications.

Where did your 20% come from?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one ever gets in from our OOS school...last year, 14 applied, ONE admitted They had a 4.6 GPA and a 36 ACT. The kid with the 4.5 GPA and 35 got denied. Nuts!

Stop spreading misinformation. OOS acceptance rate is about 20%.

ED is up a little so acceptance rate will go down. They also won’t be deferring so they may be able to accept a few more students but perhaps they will just waitlist more.

This year could be even more challenging, as they have received 5% more EA+ED applications than last year.

Anonymous wrote:For UVA class 2027, the OOS acceptance rate is 13% with 41,330 completed applications.

Where did your 20% come from?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one ever gets in from our OOS school...last year, 14 applied, ONE admitted They had a 4.6 GPA and a 36 ACT. The kid with the 4.5 GPA and 35 got denied. Nuts!

Stop spreading misinformation. OOS acceptance rate is about 20%.

For UVA class 2027, the OOS acceptance rate is 13% with 41,330 completed applications.

Where did your 20% come from?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one ever gets in from our OOS school...last year, 14 applied, ONE admitted They had a 4.6 GPA and a 36 ACT. The kid with the 4.5 GPA and 35 got denied. Nuts!

Stop spreading misinformation. OOS acceptance rate is about 20%.

My 2022 kid was admitted with an UW 4.0 and 1480 SAT. From a DC private. Graduated in top 5% of class. We live in MD.

Anonymous wrote:No one ever gets in from our OOS school...last year, 14 applied, ONE admitted They had a 4.6 GPA and a 36 ACT. The kid with the 4.5 GPA and 35 got denied. Nuts!

Stop spreading misinformation. OOS acceptance rate is about 20%.

Anonymous wrote:Anyone have stats for kids admitted from out of state?

Scores/gpa, something extra? Public/private?

UVA is not worth it for OOS students unless they have decent CS or Engineering programs.

i would be startled if UVa (or any other university) would not prefer a lab science AP - over a science AP without any lab aspect.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is tricky. You can’t tell from naviance if the OOS kids who were rejected took the courses that UVA expects them to take. The most important thing to UVA is the coursework and the grades. A 4.5 or 4.6 doesn’t tell you much.

At my kid’s oos school a ton of kids are applying this year even though they know that they don’t have the coursework or grades that are needed tp get in.

What is that coursework?

Classes all four years in the five core subjects. Prefer applicants who have taken AP or IB across the curriculum if it’s offered at their school (so AP science, AP math, AP English, AP world language, etc.). High grades in everything.

They also see certain classes as weak. My kid was told not to take AP environmental because he had no other AP science classes and it wasn’t considered rigorous. Also, if they have the option to take AP foreign language but instead take Spanish 5 or similar that is seen as not rigorous. Etc.

My DS took Ap Enviro senior year and is now at UVA.

Interesting and helpful. Did your DS take a lab science AP science class in 11th grade? My DC heard from their college counselor that UVA wants the science AP to be a lab science, but maybe that isn’t true?

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is tricky. You can’t tell from naviance if the OOS kids who were rejected took the courses that UVA expects them to take. The most important thing to UVA is the coursework and the grades. A 4.5 or 4.6 doesn’t tell you much.

At my kid’s oos school a ton of kids are applying this year even though they know that they don’t have the coursework or grades that are needed tp get in.

What is that coursework?

Generally, student should take the most rigorous courses which are available at THAT STUDENT’S high school. If a high school does not offer honors or AP in some subject, then student is not expected to take honors/AP in that subject, because it is not a course option.

Specifically, UVa strongly prefers student applicants take a foreign language all 4 years of high school (or to the highest level offered for that language at their high school). This is true even for schools other than A&S (e.g., even for applicants to Engineering school or Architecture school). I am not sure exactly how Latin is evaluated by Admissions, but I would guess that would also suffice. For Engineering, or for some
one who happens to tell the school they want to major in Science/Math, then at least 1 full year of high school calculus is expected, unless the high school does not offer any form of Calculus. As before, rigor matters, so Honors Calc or AP Calc is strongly desirable if that is offered at one’s high school.

Mind, I imagine all of what I wrote above is *mostly* also true for any top 30 university or any top 20 public university.

All the UVA OOS I know - legacy and/or supper loaded coming from elite prep/boarding schools…

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Anonymous wrote:The out of state pool is where legacy matters.

NP
adding that OOS legacies are considered in the 2/3 in-state pool of admissions.

What?!? NO.

This was never true and is certainly not true now. UVA suppresses the common app info about parents colleges when they review starting this year. Dean J addressed this in her Instagram live this week.

OOS legacies are in the OOS pool.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The out of state pool is where legacy matters.

NP
adding that OOS legacies are considered in the 2/3 in-state pool of admissions.

What?!? NO.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The out of state pool is where legacy matters.

NP
adding that OOS legacies are considered in the 2/3 in-state pool of admissions.

What?!? NO.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA is tricky. You can’t tell from naviance if the OOS kids who were rejected took the courses that UVA expects them to take. The most important thing to UVA is the coursework and the grades. A 4.5 or 4.6 doesn’t tell you much.

At my kid’s oos school a ton of kids are applying this year even though they know that they don’t have the coursework or grades that are needed tp get in.

What is that coursework?

Classes all four years in the five core subjects. Prefer applicants who have taken AP or IB across the curriculum if it’s offered at their school (so AP science, AP math, AP English, AP world language, etc.). High grades in everything.

They also see certain classes as weak. My kid was told not to take AP environmental because he had no other AP science classes and it wasn’t considered rigorous. Also, if they have the option to take AP foreign language but instead take Spanish 5 or similar that is seen as not rigorous. Etc.

My DS took Ap Enviro senior year and is now at UVA.

UVA is an overrated school that has no business being ranked where it is.