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Anonymous wrote:New poster. The car was found right by the school, a few cars behind where my child’s car was parked. A rather unfriendly police officer told her.

It was a black Honda. Obviously empty by the time the kids were let out of lockdown.

People seem to think BCC students were involved but no one knows. My child says they carjackers are back at school but who knows.

I live in the neighborhood and witnessed that police officer be unnecessarily rude and aggressive to students and adults at a time when there was no danger or threat to anyone. He was unprofessional.

So beside the point here

Actually it’s not. Thank you PP for confirming what my child said. There are a lot of adults failing our kids in different ways in this situation. I want my daughter to feel like she can go to the police and feel safe and be treated with respect. This officer failed n his job.

As for BCC, parents were encouraged last night by a PTSA member to call the school today. No matter what, Mooney should have made an announcement to parents. Were the kids really BCC kids? Are they back in school bragging, as we’ve all heard? Are our kids safe in their school?

At this point, I think people should be contacting the superintendent as well. Dr. Mooney isn’t anything to us that isn’t cleared through MCPS central office.

Dr. Mooney released a statement about the incident and the school lockdown during and after the lockdown.

Dr. Mooney and MCPS are prohibited by law (FERPA) from revealing any information about students by name or without names if the associated info would tend to identify them.

Juveniles are not typically named in news reports of crimes and only 1 perpetrator was 18 or over and thus only 1 was named. So, I'm not really sure how Dr. Mooney would even know who was involved in the carjacking, and even if he did, it seems unlikely that he would have access to juvenile charging documents that would provide sufficient and concrete information to remove someone from school.

Rumors are not a basis upon which students can be disciplined or suspended.

Give me a break. NBC News reported that five BCC kids were arrested. They are back at school talking about it.

Not sure what your agenda is. But you have an agenda, and it’s 100 perfect against what BCC parents want - for our kids to ge safe at school. You are ridiculous.

My agenda is not to have the pitchfork and torch crowd running BCC. I am a BCC parent too. Even students have rights. I am shocked how little fellow parents on the BCC listserv know about law and civil rights. They expect the school principal to publicly name the perpetrator students, who have at this point only been charged.

I thought Dr. Mooney's second recent statement was extremely clear about what the legal boundaries are within which he is part of a decision-making process about a student presence at school when that student has a reportable offense.

No, the parents want to know what the school-related consequences will be for the 5 students who were arrested for car jacking in the middle of the school of day, found with weapons in the car, etc.

Dr. Mooney statement was completely lacking any actual information. It provided absolutely no information and was therefore not very clear.

As for the kids’ names? No one needs Mooney to put them. Ask your own kids and their friends. This isn’t a state secret at school. The car jacking students are back in class. Kids know. Teachers know.

BCC parent here. You will not, should not and legally cannot know the bold, with or without student names involved. It is illegal under FERPA for the school to publicly discuss the discipline meted out to any student.

Sure, you can ask in general what the range of consequences are for a student accused of armed carjacking, and how the decision is made in general about where that kid goes to school after being charged. But, that is not what BCC parents keep repeatedly and ineffectively asking for, because they would prefer to be an enraged mob focused on a scapegoat principal.

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Anonymous wrote:New poster. The car was found right by the school, a few cars behind where my child’s car was parked. A rather unfriendly police officer told her.

It was a black Honda. Obviously empty by the time the kids were let out of lockdown.

People seem to think BCC students were involved but no one knows. My child says they carjackers are back at school but who knows.

I live in the neighborhood and witnessed that police officer be unnecessarily rude and aggressive to students and adults at a time when there was no danger or threat to anyone. He was unprofessional.

So beside the point here

Actually it’s not. Thank you PP for confirming what my child said. There are a lot of adults failing our kids in different ways in this situation. I want my daughter to feel like she can go to the police and feel safe and be treated with respect. This officer failed n his job.

As for BCC, parents were encouraged last night by a PTSA member to call the school today. No matter what, Mooney should have made an announcement to parents. Were the kids really BCC kids? Are they back in school bragging, as we’ve all heard? Are our kids safe in their school?

At this point, I think people should be contacting the superintendent as well. Dr. Mooney isn’t anything to us that isn’t cleared through MCPS central office.

Dr. Mooney released a statement about the incident and the school lockdown during and after the lockdown.

Dr. Mooney and MCPS are prohibited by law (FERPA) from revealing any information about students by name or without names if the associated info would tend to identify them.

Juveniles are not typically named in news reports of crimes and only 1 perpetrator was 18 or over and thus only 1 was named. So, I'm not really sure how Dr. Mooney would even know who was involved in the carjacking, and even if he did, it seems unlikely that he would have access to juvenile charging documents that would provide sufficient and concrete information to remove someone from school.

Rumors are not a basis upon which students can be disciplined or suspended.

Give me a break. NBC News reported that five BCC kids were arrested. They are back at school talking about it.

Not sure what your agenda is. But you have an agenda, and it’s 100 perfect against what BCC parents want - for our kids to ge safe at school. You are ridiculous.

My agenda is not to have the pitchfork and torch crowd running BCC. I am a BCC parent too. Even students have rights. I am shocked how little fellow parents on the BCC listserv know about law and civil rights. They expect the school principal to publicly name the perpetrator students, who have at this point only been charged.

I thought Dr. Mooney's second recent statement was extremely clear about what the legal boundaries are within which he is part of a decision-making process about a student presence at school when that student has a reportable offense.

No, the parents want to know what the school-related consequences will be for the 5 students who were arrested for car jacking in the middle of the school of day, found with weapons in the car, etc.

Dr. Mooney statement was completely lacking any actual information. It provided absolutely no information and was therefore not very clear.

As for the kids’ names? No one needs Mooney to put them. Ask your own kids and their friends. This isn’t a state secret at school. The car jacking students are back in class. Kids know. Teachers know.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the update

https://www2.montgomerycountymd.gov/mcgportalapps/Press_Detail_Pol.aspx?Item_ID=44322

Damn! That's a clean sweep. I don't understand why the 15 year old girl faced no charges or consequences tho.

Same as the bag of fentanyl shoe robbery.
Girls can't commit crimes. They have no agency.

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Anonymous wrote:New poster. The car was found right by the school, a few cars behind where my child’s car was parked. A rather unfriendly police officer told her.

It was a black Honda. Obviously empty by the time the kids were let out of lockdown.

People seem to think BCC students were involved but no one knows. My child says they carjackers are back at school but who knows.

I live in the neighborhood and witnessed that police officer be unnecessarily rude and aggressive to students and adults at a time when there was no danger or threat to anyone. He was unprofessional.

So beside the point here

WRONG.

Application of the Student Code of Conduct

Student conduct occurring outside school hours and away from school property may be subject to disciplinary action if the principal reasonably believes that the conduct threatens the health or safety of students or staff in the school setting or if conduct causes or is reasonably expected to cause substantial disruption or material interference with school activities.

 

Factors Impacting Behavior Intervention and Safety Decisions

MCPS staff shall make behavior intervention decisions using clear, developmentally appropriate criteria, ensuring that consequences applied are proportional and consistent. In evaluating the totality of the circumstances, school staff should review the “Levels of Responses” with particular attention to the examples provided and consider the following criteria relating to the discipline of students:

4. The circumstances surrounding the incident.

5. Imminent threat of serious harm.

 

Behavior Interventions

Expulsion (note additional MCPS regulation on Suspension and Expulsion is available here)

The exclusion of the student from the student’s regular school program for 45 school days or longer, with notice to the parent/guardian, which may occur only under the following circumstances:

1. The superintendent of schools’ designee has determined that the student’s return to school prior to the completion of the expulsion period poses an imminent threat of serious harm to other students or staff;

2. The superintendent of schools’ designee limits the duration of the exclusion to the shortest period practicable; and

3. The school system provides the excluded student with comparable educational services and appropriate behavioral support services to promote successful return

Actually it’s not. Thank you PP for confirming what my child said. There are a lot of adults failing our kids in different ways in this situation. I want my daughter to feel like she can go to the police and feel safe and be treated with respect. This officer failed n his job.

As for BCC, parents were encouraged last night by a PTSA member to call the school today. No matter what, Mooney should have made an announcement to parents. Were the kids really BCC kids? Are they back in school bragging, as we’ve all heard? Are our kids safe in their school?

At this point, I think people should be contacting the superintendent as well. Dr. Mooney isn’t anything to us that isn’t cleared through MCPS central office.

Dr. Mooney released a statement about the incident and the school lockdown during and after the lockdown.

Dr. Mooney and MCPS are prohibited by law (FERPA) from revealing any information about students by name or without names if the associated info would tend to identify them.

Juveniles are not typically named in news reports of crimes and only 1 perpetrator was 18 or over and thus only 1 was named. So, I'm not really sure how Dr. Mooney would even know who was involved in the carjacking, and even if he did, it seems unlikely that he would have access to juvenile charging documents that would provide sufficient and concrete information to remove someone from school.

Rumors are not a basis upon which students can be disciplined or suspended.

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Anonymous wrote:New poster. The car was found right by the school, a few cars behind where my child’s car was parked. A rather unfriendly police officer told her.

It was a black Honda. Obviously empty by the time the kids were let out of lockdown.

People seem to think BCC students were involved but no one knows. My child says they carjackers are back at school but who knows.

I live in the neighborhood and witnessed that police officer be unnecessarily rude and aggressive to students and adults at a time when there was no danger or threat to anyone. He was unprofessional.

So beside the point here

WRONG.

Application of the Student Code of Conduct

Student conduct occurring outside school hours and away from school property may be subject to disciplinary action if the principal reasonably believes that the conduct threatens the health or safety of students or staff in the school setting or if conduct causes or is reasonably expected to cause substantial disruption or material interference with school activities.

 

Factors Impacting Behavior Intervention and Safety Decisions

MCPS staff shall make behavior intervention decisions using clear, developmentally appropriate criteria, ensuring that consequences applied are proportional and consistent. In evaluating the totality of the circumstances, school staff should review the “Levels of Responses” with particular attention to the examples provided and consider the following criteria relating to the discipline of students:

4. The circumstances surrounding the incident.

5. Imminent threat of serious harm.

 

Behavior Interventions

Expulsion (note additional MCPS regulation on Suspension and Expulsion is available here)

The exclusion of the student from the student’s regular school program for 45 school days or longer, with notice to the parent/guardian, which may occur only under the following circumstances:

1. The superintendent of schools’ designee has determined that the student’s return to school prior to the completion of the expulsion period poses an imminent threat of serious harm to other students or staff;

2. The superintendent of schools’ designee limits the duration of the exclusion to the shortest period practicable; and

3. The school system provides the excluded student with comparable educational services and appropriate behavioral support services to promote successful return

Actually it’s not. Thank you PP for confirming what my child said. There are a lot of adults failing our kids in different ways in this situation. I want my daughter to feel like she can go to the police and feel safe and be treated with respect. This officer failed n his job.

As for BCC, parents were encouraged last night by a PTSA member to call the school today. No matter what, Mooney should have made an announcement to parents. Were the kids really BCC kids? Are they back in school bragging, as we’ve all heard? Are our kids safe in their school?

At this point, I think people should be contacting the superintendent as well. Dr. Mooney isn’t anything to us that isn’t cleared through MCPS central office.

Dr. Mooney released a statement about the incident and the school lockdown during and after the lockdown.

Dr. Mooney and MCPS are prohibited by law (FERPA) from revealing any information about students by name or without names if the associated info would tend to identify them.

Juveniles are not typically named in news reports of crimes and only 1 perpetrator was 18 or over and thus only 1 was named. So, I'm not really sure how Dr. Mooney would even know who was involved in the carjacking, and even if he did, it seems unlikely that he would have access to juvenile charging documents that would provide sufficient and concrete information to remove someone from school.

Rumors are not a basis upon which students can be disciplined or suspended.

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Anonymous wrote:New poster. The car was found right by the school, a few cars behind where my child’s car was parked. A rather unfriendly police officer told her.

It was a black Honda. Obviously empty by the time the kids were let out of lockdown.

People seem to think BCC students were involved but no one knows. My child says they carjackers are back at school but who knows.

I live in the neighborhood and witnessed that police officer be unnecessarily rude and aggressive to students and adults at a time when there was no danger or threat to anyone. He was unprofessional.

So beside the point here

Actually it’s not. Thank you PP for confirming what my child said. There are a lot of adults failing our kids in different ways in this situation. I want my daughter to feel like she can go to the police and feel safe and be treated with respect. This officer failed n his job.

As for BCC, parents were encouraged last night by a PTSA member to call the school today. No matter what, Mooney should have made an announcement to parents. Were the kids really BCC kids? Are they back in school bragging, as we’ve all heard? Are our kids safe in their school?

At this point, I think people should be contacting the superintendent as well. Dr. Mooney isn’t anything to us that isn’t cleared through MCPS central office.

Dr. Mooney released a statement about the incident and the school lockdown during and after the lockdown.

Dr. Mooney and MCPS are prohibited by law (FERPA) from revealing any information about students by name or without names if the associated info would tend to identify them.

Juveniles are not typically named in news reports of crimes and only 1 perpetrator was 18 or over and thus only 1 was named. So, I'm not really sure how Dr. Mooney would even know who was involved in the carjacking, and even if he did, it seems unlikely that he would have access to juvenile charging documents that would provide sufficient and concrete information to remove someone from school.

Rumors are not a basis upon which students can be disciplined or suspended.

Give me a break. NBC News reported that five BCC kids were arrested. They are back at school talking about it.

Not sure what your agenda is. But you have an agenda, and it’s 100 perfect against what BCC parents want - for our kids to ge safe at school. You are ridiculous.

My agenda is not to have the pitchfork and torch crowd running BCC. I am a BCC parent too. Even students have rights. I am shocked how little fellow parents on the BCC listserv know about law and civil rights. They expect the school principal to publicly name the perpetrator students, who have at this point only been charged.

I thought Dr. Mooney's second recent statement was extremely clear about what the legal boundaries are within which he is part of a decision-making process about a student presence at school when that student has a reportable offense.

No, the parents want to know what the school-related consequences will be for the 5 students who were arrested for car jacking in the middle of the school of day, found with weapons in the car, etc.

Dr. Mooney statement was completely lacking any actual information. It provided absolutely no information and was therefore not very clear.

As for the kids’ names? No one needs Mooney to put them. Ask your own kids and their friends. This isn’t a state secret at school. The car jacking students are back in class. Kids know. Teachers know.

Anonymous wrote:Another BCC parent here. I understand that legally, the principal probably has limited information about a crime that took place outside of school and that legally, he may not be able to share the information he does have. And ultimately, I assume it may not be the principal who gets to decide whether a juvenile charged with a crime stays in their regular school or whether there are alternate arrangements made. So unlike the crazy listserv parents, I'm not mad at the principal.

BUT I think we're all owed some greater transparency and accountability from MCPS. They don't have to share individual names or even individual incidents. But there should be a specific policy that suspends, isolates or relocates to some more specialized environment teenagers who have been charged with violent crimes. They have legal rights, but that doesn't mean that MCPS should do nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:Another BCC parent here. I understand that legally, the principal probably has limited information about a crime that took place outside of school and that legally, he may not be able to share the information he does have. And ultimately, I assume it may not be the principal who gets to decide whether a juvenile charged with a crime stays in their regular school or whether there are alternate arrangements made. So unlike the crazy listserv parents, I'm not mad at the principal.

+1 (also a BCC parent)

Anonymous wrote:Another BCC parent here. I understand that legally, the principal probably has limited information about a crime that took place outside of school and that legally, he may not be able to share the information he does have. And ultimately, I assume it may not be the principal who gets to decide whether a juvenile charged with a crime stays in their regular school or whether there are alternate arrangements made. So unlike the crazy listserv parents, I'm not mad at the principal.

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Anonymous wrote:New poster. The car was found right by the school, a few cars behind where my child’s car was parked. A rather unfriendly police officer told her.

It was a black Honda. Obviously empty by the time the kids were let out of lockdown.

People seem to think BCC students were involved but no one knows. My child says they carjackers are back at school but who knows.

I live in the neighborhood and witnessed that police officer be unnecessarily rude and aggressive to students and adults at a time when there was no danger or threat to anyone. He was unprofessional.

So beside the point here

Actually it’s not. Thank you PP for confirming what my child said. There are a lot of adults failing our kids in different ways in this situation. I want my daughter to feel like she can go to the police and feel safe and be treated with respect. This officer failed n his job.

As for BCC, parents were encouraged last night by a PTSA member to call the school today. No matter what, Mooney should have made an announcement to parents. Were the kids really BCC kids? Are they back in school bragging, as we’ve all heard? Are our kids safe in their school?

At this point, I think people should be contacting the superintendent as well. Dr. Mooney isn’t anything to us that isn’t cleared through MCPS central office.

Dr. Mooney released a statement about the incident and the school lockdown during and after the lockdown.

Dr. Mooney and MCPS are prohibited by law (FERPA) from revealing any information about students by name or without names if the associated info would tend to identify them.

Juveniles are not typically named in news reports of crimes and only 1 perpetrator was 18 or over and thus only 1 was named. So, I'm not really sure how Dr. Mooney would even know who was involved in the carjacking, and even if he did, it seems unlikely that he would have access to juvenile charging documents that would provide sufficient and concrete information to remove someone from school.

Rumors are not a basis upon which students can be disciplined or suspended.

Give me a break. NBC News reported that five BCC kids were arrested. They are back at school talking about it.

Not sure what your agenda is. But you have an agenda, and it’s 100 perfect against what BCC parents want - for our kids to ge safe at school. You are ridiculous.

My agenda is not to have the pitchfork and torch crowd running BCC. I am a BCC parent too. Even students have rights. I am shocked how little fellow parents on the BCC listserv know about law and civil rights. They expect the school principal to publicly name the perpetrator students, who have at this point only been charged.

I thought Dr. Mooney's second recent statement was extremely clear about what the legal boundaries are within which he is part of a decision-making process about a student presence at school when that student has a reportable offense.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster. The car was found right by the school, a few cars behind where my child’s car was parked. A rather unfriendly police officer told her.

It was a black Honda. Obviously empty by the time the kids were let out of lockdown.

People seem to think BCC students were involved but no one knows. My child says they carjackers are back at school but who knows.

I live in the neighborhood and witnessed that police officer be unnecessarily rude and aggressive to students and adults at a time when there was no danger or threat to anyone. He was unprofessional.

So beside the point here

Actually it’s not. Thank you PP for confirming what my child said. There are a lot of adults failing our kids in different ways in this situation. I want my daughter to feel like she can go to the police and feel safe and be treated with respect. This officer failed n his job.

As for BCC, parents were encouraged last night by a PTSA member to call the school today. No matter what, Mooney should have made an announcement to parents. Were the kids really BCC kids? Are they back in school bragging, as we’ve all heard? Are our kids safe in their school?

At this point, I think people should be contacting the superintendent as well. Dr. Mooney isn’t anything to us that isn’t cleared through MCPS central office.

Dr. Mooney released a statement about the incident and the school lockdown during and after the lockdown.

Dr. Mooney and MCPS are prohibited by law (FERPA) from revealing any information about students by name or without names if the associated info would tend to identify them.

Juveniles are not typically named in news reports of crimes and only 1 perpetrator was 18 or over and thus only 1 was named. So, I'm not really sure how Dr. Mooney would even know who was involved in the carjacking, and even if he did, it seems unlikely that he would have access to juvenile charging documents that would provide sufficient and concrete information to remove someone from school.

Rumors are not a basis upon which students can be disciplined or suspended.

Give me a break. NBC News reported that five BCC kids were arrested. They are back at school talking about it.

Not sure what your agenda is. But you have an agenda, and it’s 100 perfect against what BCC parents want - for our kids to ge safe at school. You are ridiculous.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster. The car was found right by the school, a few cars behind where my child’s car was parked. A rather unfriendly police officer told her.

It was a black Honda. Obviously empty by the time the kids were let out of lockdown.

People seem to think BCC students were involved but no one knows. My child says they carjackers are back at school but who knows.

I live in the neighborhood and witnessed that police officer be unnecessarily rude and aggressive to students and adults at a time when there was no danger or threat to anyone. He was unprofessional.

So beside the point here

Actually it’s not. Thank you PP for confirming what my child said. There are a lot of adults failing our kids in different ways in this situation. I want my daughter to feel like she can go to the police and feel safe and be treated with respect. This officer failed n his job.

As for BCC, parents were encouraged last night by a PTSA member to call the school today. No matter what, Mooney should have made an announcement to parents. Were the kids really BCC kids? Are they back in school bragging, as we’ve all heard? Are our kids safe in their school?

At this point, I think people should be contacting the superintendent as well. Dr. Mooney isn’t anything to us that isn’t cleared through MCPS central office.

Dr. Mooney released a statement about the incident and the school lockdown during and after the lockdown.

Dr. Mooney and MCPS are prohibited by law (FERPA) from revealing any information about students by name or without names if the associated info would tend to identify them.

Juveniles are not typically named in news reports of crimes and only 1 perpetrator was 18 or over and thus only 1 was named. So, I'm not really sure how Dr. Mooney would even know who was involved in the carjacking, and even if he did, it seems unlikely that he would have access to juvenile charging documents that would provide sufficient and concrete information to remove someone from school.

Rumors are not a basis upon which students can be disciplined or suspended.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster. The car was found right by the school, a few cars behind where my child’s car was parked. A rather unfriendly police officer told her.

It was a black Honda. Obviously empty by the time the kids were let out of lockdown.

People seem to think BCC students were involved but no one knows. My child says they carjackers are back at school but who knows.

I live in the neighborhood and witnessed that police officer be unnecessarily rude and aggressive to students and adults at a time when there was no danger or threat to anyone. He was unprofessional.

So beside the point here

Actually it’s not. Thank you PP for confirming what my child said. There are a lot of adults failing our kids in different ways in this situation. I want my daughter to feel like she can go to the police and feel safe and be treated with respect. This officer failed n his job.

As for BCC, parents were encouraged last night by a PTSA member to call the school today. No matter what, Mooney should have made an announcement to parents. Were the kids really BCC kids? Are they back in school bragging, as we’ve all heard? Are our kids safe in their school?

At this point, I think people should be contacting the superintendent as well. Dr. Mooney isn’t anything to us that isn’t cleared through MCPS central office.