Anonymous
Post 12/21/2023 17:22     Subject: Twin flames netflix
keely came off as a real POS to me too. I could never imagine exploiting and brainwashing my younger sister, AND my siblings and I also come from a broken home like marly and keely do.

But I guess it's people like that who end up in cults.

Someone from DCUM who lives in Michigan needs to call child services on that evil couple, stat.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2023 14:47     Subject: Twin flames netflix
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:.
However. Bullying cult members into changing genders is bizarre and cruel.

It's worse than "bizarre", it's basically a kind of rape. Frankly Keely should be in jail along with Jeff and Megan. She clearly had her own god complex if she thought she had the authority to tell people whether they were men or women. I don't buy that she was just "brainwashed" into it, just like I don't buy that Elle innocently wandered into a club and got thrown in jail. You need a ton of hard evidence to put a restraining order on somebody.

yeah I think I agree with this, actually.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2023 11:07     Subject: Re:Twin flames netflix
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also randomly telling people they were a different gender, sexuality and person. Wtf.

IVF for Grace to be born in the right body? Did Shaleia really have ectopic and he just like told her it was only suspected because the embryo was too small to be detected? Jeff is such an effing tool. Shaleia being told she was not what he expected because she is fat. Just horrible, horrible people

Going to jail for stalking. The poor mom trying to stay in contact with her child via text. Very, very disturbing.


Yeah, this was very bizarre. Can you tell if an embryo is male or female before implantation? Were they trying to genetically engineer sex? Is that why the IVF? I actually wonder if there wasn't any IVF -- they were just using the idea of the expense of IVF to raise (extract!) more money from their followers? Ectopic pregnancies are horrible, life threatening emergencies, so the way that Shaleia and Jeff mentioned it, like it was nothing, seemed weird to me -- I guess I don't buy it that she had an ectopic pregnancy. Which means I think she probably wasn't pregnant at all. Who knows? It's all so bizarre.

But the stuff about "baby Grace" being their third flame, and how she wouldn't need sex because she could satisfy her self terrified me because what the hell happens if they actually do have a child? I see abuse waiting to happen.


The red flag for me was them saying the child would be sexually satisfied by God abs Jeff saying that he was Jesus....
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2023 09:52     Subject: Twin flames netflix
Watching on Netflix now. I had never heard about this. Complete INSANITY!!!!
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 16:18     Subject: Twin flames netflix
Anonymous wrote:.
However. Bullying cult members into changing genders is bizarre and cruel.

It's worse than "bizarre", it's basically a kind of rape. Frankly Keely should be in jail along with Jeff and Megan. She clearly had her own god complex if she thought she had the authority to tell people whether they were men or women. I don't buy that she was just "brainwashed" into it, just like I don't buy that Elle innocently wandered into a club and got thrown in jail. You need a ton of hard evidence to put a restraining order on somebody.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 16:08     Subject: Twin flames netflix
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So good! I love how in the videos Shaleia just repeats random words he is saying. Like most cult-- but maybe more so with this one it shows how they are to pray on the vulnerable. Real psycho to do that.

I noticed that Christine Emerick's LinkedIn was up yesterday but gone today. She advanced work was done by degree mills. Her PhD is from Capella University in. Emergency management. 😬

She's a monster. Why didn't the military court martial her?

And Keely for that matter comes across just as bad. She literally bullied women into CHANGING THEIR GENDER even though you can tell she had many opportunities to stop and tell Jeff and Shalooloo or whatever to STFU. I listened to the podcast on Wondery - they go into more detail of how Elle and Keely were a**holes.

Unbelievable story overall. My ex-husband, a rapist, is actually from Farmington Hills, Michigan. That's where these cult leaders used to live. Got pretty damn triggered because I may have been getting abused in Farmington Hills around the time Fake Jesus and his toadies were doing all this abuse.

I actually listened to that podcast when it first came out and it's way better than the docuseries. I admit I kinda stalked the members' socials after listening to the podcast last year but maybe it's a good thing because I saw Victoria Bonilla's Facebook posts before she set her FB to private.

Victoria wrote about how Keely was throwing a tantrum on TikTok about how the Wondery podcast focused on Angie's and Victoria's perspective, and she said that Keely abused her so much that she was puking and praying for God to kill her. And she said that what came out in the podcast was like 1% of what Keely really did. At least to Victoria.

I didn't buy Keely's fake tears in the docuseries after reading those FB posts. Sounds like she may have also read what Victoria wrote and decided to cover her bases.

Wow. Well that cult expert lady was certainly egging on Keely in the documentary. I was kind of taken in until I began reading reddit and this comment. I'm going to listen to the podcast before I make a decision about Keely.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 00:42     Subject: Twin flames netflix
thank you to 00:10 and to 00:17 - wow!
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 00:17     Subject: Twin flames netflix
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So good! I love how in the videos Shaleia just repeats random words he is saying. Like most cult-- but maybe more so with this one it shows how they are to pray on the vulnerable. Real psycho to do that.

I noticed that Christine Emerick's LinkedIn was up yesterday but gone today. She advanced work was done by degree mills. Her PhD is from Capella University in. Emergency management. 😬

She's a monster. Why didn't the military court martial her?

And Keely for that matter comes across just as bad. She literally bullied women into CHANGING THEIR GENDER even though you can tell she had many opportunities to stop and tell Jeff and Shalooloo or whatever to STFU. I listened to the podcast on Wondery - they go into more detail of how Elle and Keely were a**holes.

Unbelievable story overall. My ex-husband, a rapist, is actually from Farmington Hills, Michigan. That's where these cult leaders used to live. Got pretty damn triggered because I may have been getting abused in Farmington Hills around the time Fake Jesus and his toadies were doing all this abuse.

I actually listened to that podcast when it first came out and it's way better than the docuseries. I admit I kinda stalked the members' socials after listening to the podcast last year but maybe it's a good thing because I saw Victoria Bonilla's Facebook posts before she set her FB to private.

Victoria wrote about how Keely was throwing a tantrum on TikTok about how the Wondery podcast focused on Angie's and Victoria's perspective, and she said that Keely abused her so much that she was puking and praying for God to kill her. And she said that what came out in the podcast was like 1% of what Keely really did. At least to Victoria.

I didn't buy Keely's fake tears in the docuseries after reading those FB posts. Sounds like she may have also read what Victoria wrote and decided to cover her bases.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 00:10     Subject: Twin flames netflix
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So good! I love how in the videos Shaleia just repeats random words he is saying. Like most cult-- but maybe more so with this one it shows how they are to pray on the vulnerable. Real psycho to do that.

I noticed that Christine Emerick's LinkedIn was up yesterday but gone today. She advanced work was done by degree mills. Her PhD is from Capella University in. Emergency management. 😬

She's a monster. Why didn't the military court martial her?

And Keely for that matter comes across just as bad. She literally bullied women into CHANGING THEIR GENDER even though you can tell she had many opportunities to stop and tell Jeff and Shalooloo or whatever to STFU. I listened to the podcast on Wondery - they go into more detail of how Elle and Keely were a**holes.

Unbelievable story overall. My ex-husband, a rapist, is actually from Farmington Hills, Michigan. That's where these cult leaders used to live. Got pretty damn triggered because I may have been getting abused in Farmington Hills around the time Fake Jesus and his toadies were doing all this abuse.



Sorry that this show triggered you and even sorrier that you had such an abusive marriage.

I agree with your points but did feel that Keely showed deep remorse for her actions. She also has no relationship with her sister now which is very painful to her.

However. Bullying cult members into changing genders is bizarre and cruel.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 23:08     Subject: Twin flames netflix
Anonymous wrote:So good! I love how in the videos Shaleia just repeats random words he is saying. Like most cult-- but maybe more so with this one it shows how they are to pray on the vulnerable. Real psycho to do that.

I noticed that Christine Emerick's LinkedIn was up yesterday but gone today. She advanced work was done by degree mills. Her PhD is from Capella University in. Emergency management. 😬

She's a monster. Why didn't the military court martial her?

And Keely for that matter comes across just as bad. She literally bullied women into CHANGING THEIR GENDER even though you can tell she had many opportunities to stop and tell Jeff and Shalooloo or whatever to STFU. I listened to the podcast on Wondery - they go into more detail of how Elle and Keely were a**holes.

Unbelievable story overall. My ex-husband, a rapist, is actually from Farmington Hills, Michigan. That's where these cult leaders used to live. Got pretty damn triggered because I may have been getting abused in Farmington Hills around the time Fake Jesus and his toadies were doing all this abuse.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2023 06:46     Subject: Twin flames netflix
Anonymous wrote:So good! I love how in the videos Shaleia just repeats random words he is saying. Like most cult-- but maybe more so with this one it shows how they are to pray on the vulnerable. Real psycho to do that.

I noticed that Christine Emerick's LinkedIn was up yesterday but gone today. She advanced work was done by degree mills. Her PhD is from Capella University in. Emergency management. 😬



I wish her LinkedIn was up because I think I worked with her years ago.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2023 23:13     Subject: Twin flames netflix
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Watch the Amazon show. I think it's better than the Netflix one or at least adds quite a bit more. Different group members, journalist and others, slightly different vibe.



Woah, had no idea there was an Amazon version. Thanks


FYI, it's called Desperately Seeking Soulmate:Escaping Twin Flame Universe. I really liked the two women, one was named Ann, rmthat the show ends with.

Much better show.


Ok thanks - will check that out
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2023 22:12     Subject: Twin flames netflix
This show is yet more evidence that churches should not be tax exempt. Whether it's your imaginary friend in the sky or a Jesus wannabe Millenial grifter...neither merits tax exemption. It's so disgusting to me that these monsters are not only victimizing so many dupes but that they're avoiding taxes on their income as well.

As a former Catholic who grew up during the liberation theology yearsC where we actually tied to follow Christ's teachings, I cannot fathom how anyone would find it attractive or appealing to warch videos of people like this flaunting their ill gotten wealth, the same way I am puzzled by anyone who follows profiteering evangelists. Isn't the propsperity gospel pretty much the antithesis of the gospel? It's sickening.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2023 21:29     Subject: Re:Twin flames netflix
I watched both documentaries and my take-away was the power of unrequited love was helping with the leaders' lack of charisma and intelligence. The guy from the Sarah Lawrence cult was at least a very cunning psychopath. Jeff just seems like your average grifter who got lucky by hitting on something that has people really emotionally invested.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2023 21:21     Subject: Twin flames netflix
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Watch the Amazon show. I think it's better than the Netflix one or at least adds quite a bit more. Different group members, journalist and others, slightly different vibe.



Woah, had no idea there was an Amazon version. Thanks


FYI, it's called Desperately Seeking Soulmate:Escaping Twin Flame Universe. I really liked the two women, one was named Ann, rmthat the show ends with.

Much better show.