Anonymous wrote:People don’t dress up because we don’t have to anymore. In the past, women were most valued for their appearance, and women couldn’t advance in society without a man. The dressing up and looking good was to attract a partner. We have evolved. Women can support themselves. I don’t dress up very often. I don’t care what people I don’t know think about me. And I’m glad that I’m at an age where men don’t stare at me.

I’m not sure why you are turning this into a sexism thing. Men also used to look much better. They used to wear well fitted suits and ties to work, nice polos and slacks out to dinner. He’ll they used to wear black tie to dinner. And now they’re in hoodies and t-shirts like toddlers. I especially hate seeing the crap some of my male coworkers wear. It’s insulting and distracting.

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Anonymous wrote:No excuses ladies. You don’t take care of yourselves anymore

You use "taking care of yourself" as code for "striving to appear physically attractive to others". How misogynistic of you.

I'm in excellent health and have excellent hygiene. I usually wear athletic clothing with my hair in a pony tail and no make up. Why should I care whether randos think I'm attractive or not?

I started my professional career, like a PP, being required to wear pantyhose and makeup. I'm SO glad those days are over!

It’s not about others thinking I’m attractive. It’s about respect for myself and respect for those around me. When I’m dressed up and put together, I work harder and do better in everything. You can tell my mental state by the state of my nails.

Besides, it takes just as much time to put on sweatpants as it does to put on a nice outfit. Or do your dressy clothes have some sort of weird contraptions?

I also started off my career in pantyhose and makeup and I wish business formal attire were still a thing. It made most people more present, focused, hardworking and more respectful.

We are degenerating as a society, unfortunately.

Pantyhose =/= respecting others

Perhaps not, hopping out of bed and going out half washed, with your greasy hair pulled into a ponytail, in your leggings to work or the doctor’s office is a huge FU to everyone you encounter.

As long as someone is clean, wearing sweat pants or leggings is not an FU to anyone. Why would you take it personally what anyone else wears?

I do take it personally because it shows a complete lack of manners, proper decorum and respect for others. It’s like picking your nose in public or spitting on the street. Sweatpants are for lounging around your house. They are not proper attire to wear in the outside world. Leggings are not pants. They are for being worn under dresses or for working out. If I see you running in the park, wearing either, I won’t mind, but if you’re wearing that out to dinner or work, yeah, it bothers me A LOT that I have to look at you being that rude.

It’s especially bad if you are the big and beautiful type that likes to wear leggings. I don’t want to see the cellulite in your thighs up that close and personal.

Why even bother getting dressed? Being naked works, too.

I cannot believe how people can be so oblivious to how rude they are.

So anyone who doesnt prescribe to DCUM user 555984832738's definition of style is "rude"? LOL puh-lease. You are delulu and are in fact, the rude one. Fat shaming too? Cherry on top.

I didn’t mind getting dressed up for work back when we had support staff, but last time I showed up for a presentation in heels , Jose etc. there was a problem with the copier and I called tech support and rather than sending someone they told me over the phone how to fix the printer and it involved moving it, crawling behind it, pushing a reset button etc.

If you are expecting us to perform manual labor at the office, then you gotta let us wear jeans,

But if instead of paying someone to restock the printer paper you expect me to go to the supply closet, climb a ladder and carry a heavy cardboard box to the printer, open it up, squat down etc then I am not doing it in hose and heels.

If you want us to dress better, then pay someone else to do the manual labor. Also not wearing a dress and heels to check out my own groceries etc.

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Anonymous wrote:No excuses ladies. You don’t take care of yourselves anymore

You use "taking care of yourself" as code for "striving to appear physically attractive to others". How misogynistic of you.

I'm in excellent health and have excellent hygiene. I usually wear athletic clothing with my hair in a pony tail and no make up. Why should I care whether randos think I'm attractive or not?

I started my professional career, like a PP, being required to wear pantyhose and makeup. I'm SO glad those days are over!

It’s not about others thinking I’m attractive. It’s about respect for myself and respect for those around me. When I’m dressed up and put together, I work harder and do better in everything. You can tell my mental state by the state of my nails.

Besides, it takes just as much time to put on sweatpants as it does to put on a nice outfit. Or do your dressy clothes have some sort of weird contraptions?

I also started off my career in pantyhose and makeup and I wish business formal attire were still a thing. It made most people more present, focused, hardworking and more respectful.

We are degenerating as a society, unfortunately.

Pantyhose =/= respecting others

Perhaps not, hopping out of bed and going out half washed, with your greasy hair pulled into a ponytail, in your leggings to work or the doctor’s office is a huge FU to everyone you encounter.

As long as someone is clean, wearing sweat pants or leggings is not an FU to anyone. Why would you take it personally what anyone else wears?

I do take it personally because it shows a complete lack of manners, proper decorum and respect for others. It’s like picking your nose in public or spitting on the street. Sweatpants are for lounging around your house. They are not proper attire to wear in the outside world. Leggings are not pants. They are for being worn under dresses or for working out. If I see you running in the park, wearing either, I won’t mind, but if you’re wearing that out to dinner or work, yeah, it bothers me A LOT that I have to look at you being that rude.

It’s especially bad if you are the big and beautiful type that likes to wear leggings. I don’t want to see the cellulite in your thighs up that close and personal.

Why even bother getting dressed? Being naked works, too.

I cannot believe how people can be so oblivious to how rude they are.

The bolded is just literally your opinion - not facts. And if seeing cellulite bothers you, someone in a skirt or dress or showing their legs would also bother you. It sounds like you just don't want ugly or fat people to exist in public? Are you that disgusting?

The question is "Why have people given up on looking ATTRACTIVE when they go out?"

I dont need to be attractive to you to buy apples.
I dont need to be attractive to you to mail a package.
I dont need to be attractive to you to EXIST in public.

People bragging about treating someone differently based on how they look are showing some extreme bigotry and seem really shallow and unintelligent.

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Anonymous wrote:No excuses ladies. You don’t take care of yourselves anymore

You use "taking care of yourself" as code for "striving to appear physically attractive to others". How misogynistic of you.

I'm in excellent health and have excellent hygiene. I usually wear athletic clothing with my hair in a pony tail and no make up. Why should I care whether randos think I'm attractive or not?

I started my professional career, like a PP, being required to wear pantyhose and makeup. I'm SO glad those days are over!

It’s not about others thinking I’m attractive. It’s about respect for myself and respect for those around me. When I’m dressed up and put together, I work harder and do better in everything. You can tell my mental state by the state of my nails.

Besides, it takes just as much time to put on sweatpants as it does to put on a nice outfit. Or do your dressy clothes have some sort of weird contraptions?

I also started off my career in pantyhose and makeup and I wish business formal attire were still a thing. It made most people more present, focused, hardworking and more respectful.

We are degenerating as a society, unfortunately.

Pantyhose =/= respecting others

Perhaps not, hopping out of bed and going out half washed, with your greasy hair pulled into a ponytail, in your leggings to work or the doctor’s office is a huge FU to everyone you encounter.

As long as someone is clean, wearing sweat pants or leggings is not an FU to anyone. Why would you take it personally what anyone else wears?

I do take it personally because it shows a complete lack of manners, proper decorum and respect for others. It’s like picking your nose in public or spitting on the street. Sweatpants are for lounging around your house. They are not proper attire to wear in the outside world. Leggings are not pants. They are for being worn under dresses or for working out. If I see you running in the park, wearing either, I won’t mind, but if you’re wearing that out to dinner or work, yeah, it bothers me A LOT that I have to look at you being that rude.

It’s especially bad if you are the big and beautiful type that likes to wear leggings. I don’t want to see the cellulite in your thighs up that close and personal.

Why even bother getting dressed? Being naked works, too.

I cannot believe how people can be so oblivious to how rude they are.

People don’t dress up because we don’t have to anymore. In the past, women were most valued for their appearance, and women couldn’t advance in society without a man. The dressing up and looking good was to attract a partner. We have evolved. Women can support themselves. I don’t dress up very often. I don’t care what people I don’t know think about me. And I’m glad that I’m at an age where men don’t stare at me.

I think it's weird how many people are conflating wearing more comfortable/ casual clothing a little to no makeup and lack of personal hygiene.
I like to wear clothes that allow me freedom to move and breathe normally. I also think it's absurd that half of the population (women) have been told they have to wear makeup to look "acceptable" while men are giving a pass.
However, I shower/bathe every day, would never leave the house without putting on deodorant, and my clothes are clean.
I don't consider my approach "giving up on being attractive."

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Anonymous wrote:No excuses ladies. You don’t take care of yourselves anymore

You use "taking care of yourself" as code for "striving to appear physically attractive to others". How misogynistic of you.

I'm in excellent health and have excellent hygiene. I usually wear athletic clothing with my hair in a pony tail and no make up. Why should I care whether randos think I'm attractive or not?

I started my professional career, like a PP, being required to wear pantyhose and makeup. I'm SO glad those days are over!

It’s not about others thinking I’m attractive. It’s about respect for myself and respect for those around me. When I’m dressed up and put together, I work harder and do better in everything. You can tell my mental state by the state of my nails.

Besides, it takes just as much time to put on sweatpants as it does to put on a nice outfit. Or do your dressy clothes have some sort of weird contraptions?

I also started off my career in pantyhose and makeup and I wish business formal attire were still a thing. It made most people more present, focused, hardworking and more respectful.

We are degenerating as a society, unfortunately.

I mean, that's your opinion. My opinion is that it was always unnecessary for you to wear pantyhose, makeup, and business attire. You consider those things ways you respect yourself and respect people around you, fine. I don't care if you show up to a meeting wearing actual PJs if you are prepared for the meeting. Why is clothing a proxy for intelligence and competence to you? As for working harder and doing better when you're dressed up, that's you. I work better at home in my PJs than I ever did at my office in heels. People can be different. Your assumption is that people who do not dress up in formal attire are lazy and disrespectful. That is a value judgment, not an objective reality.

Anonymous wrote:It is fascinating to look at photographs of cities and people back in the 1950s and earlier and notice how dressed up everyone was in public, even the working people. And for an older generation, they still wore ties to do chores around the house. People clearly believed it was part of being a citizen to show respect for others by dressing nicely in public. And I do agree there is merit to it. I definitely treat people who dress better differently than those who are slobs and indifferent.

Well, that makes you shallow. Not sure why you're bragging about that.

Anonymous wrote:It is fascinating to look at photographs of cities and people back in the 1950s and earlier and notice how dressed up everyone was in public, even the working people. And for an older generation, they still wore ties to do chores around the house. People clearly believed it was part of being a citizen to show respect for others by dressing nicely in public. And I do agree there is merit to it. I definitely treat people who dress better differently than those who are slobs and indifferent.

Oh for gd's sake.

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Anonymous wrote:My parents always commented on how disgusting everyone at the airport is nowadays. People used to actually shower, look decent to fly. Now they stink and are in pjs, etc. He calls it 'the army of the great unwashed'.

To be honest the experience of flying has been degraded to such an extent that it's now like riding the bus. I don't get dressed up for that.

Everything has been degraded.
Going to the grocery - you check yourself out.
Going to work - probably zoom from your basement. And commutes make everything harder than it used to be.
Lunch or Dinner - probably fast casual without table service. Or take out. Or servers wearing jeans and t-shirts.

It's an upgrade as far as I'm concerned.

It is fascinating to look at photographs of cities and people back in the 1950s and earlier and notice how dressed up everyone was in public, even the working people. And for an older generation, they still wore ties to do chores around the house. People clearly believed it was part of being a citizen to show respect for others by dressing nicely in public. And I do agree there is merit to it. I definitely treat people who dress better differently than those who are slobs and indifferent.

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Anonymous wrote:No excuses ladies. You don’t take care of yourselves anymore

You use "taking care of yourself" as code for "striving to appear physically attractive to others". How misogynistic of you.

I'm in excellent health and have excellent hygiene. I usually wear athletic clothing with my hair in a pony tail and no make up. Why should I care whether randos think I'm attractive or not?

I started my professional career, like a PP, being required to wear pantyhose and makeup. I'm SO glad those days are over!

It’s not about others thinking I’m attractive. It’s about respect for myself and respect for those around me. When I’m dressed up and put together, I work harder and do better in everything. You can tell my mental state by the state of my nails.

Besides, it takes just as much time to put on sweatpants as it does to put on a nice outfit. Or do your dressy clothes have some sort of weird contraptions?

I also started off my career in pantyhose and makeup and I wish business formal attire were still a thing. It made most people more present, focused, hardworking and more respectful.

We are degenerating as a society, unfortunately.

Pantyhose =/= respecting others

Perhaps not, hopping out of bed and going out half washed, with your greasy hair pulled into a ponytail, in your leggings to work or the doctor’s office is a huge FU to everyone you encounter.

As long as someone is clean, wearing sweat pants or leggings is not an FU to anyone. Why would you take it personally what anyone else wears?

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Anonymous wrote:No excuses ladies. You don’t take care of yourselves anymore

You use "taking care of yourself" as code for "striving to appear physically attractive to others". How misogynistic of you.

I'm in excellent health and have excellent hygiene. I usually wear athletic clothing with my hair in a pony tail and no make up. Why should I care whether randos think I'm attractive or not?

I started my professional career, like a PP, being required to wear pantyhose and makeup. I'm SO glad those days are over!

It’s not about others thinking I’m attractive. It’s about respect for myself and respect for those around me. When I’m dressed up and put together, I work harder and do better in everything. You can tell my mental state by the state of my nails.

Besides, it takes just as much time to put on sweatpants as it does to put on a nice outfit. Or do your dressy clothes have some sort of weird contraptions?

I also started off my career in pantyhose and makeup and I wish business formal attire were still a thing. It made most people more present, focused, hardworking and more respectful.

We are degenerating as a society, unfortunately.

Pantyhose =/= respecting others

Perhaps not, hopping out of bed and going out half washed, with your greasy hair pulled into a ponytail, in your leggings to work or the doctor’s office is a huge FU to everyone you encounter.