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Anonymous wrote:You people really live in a bubble. There is no agency that exists to help “over-parented” children. CPS exists because far far far far more children in the US grow up never knowing there’s anything special about them. And for many it costs them their life - at the hands of their own parents. That’s tragic (!) It’s clear some of you would do well getting some volunteer hours in.

That’s definitely tragic but it doesn’t make over parenting less of a societal issue.

Over parenting is a direct result of lack of community and widening of have and have nots. Parents are the end all be all of their kids success. The anxiety of parenting manifests in over parenting.
The data bears this out as well. And it's still a struggle to maintain your parents lifestyle/economic group. The sheer amount of funding needed to set your kid up for any type of success is astronomical. And trades are only recently (past 15 years) becoming lucrative again and that's because everyone moved kids away from trades and now there's a shortage. But it is still seen as less than to do a trade.

Anonymous wrote:You people really live in a bubble. There is no agency that exists to help “over-parented” children. CPS exists because far far far far more children in the US grow up never knowing there’s anything special about them. And for many it costs them their life - at the hands of their own parents. That’s tragic (!) It’s clear some of you would do well getting some volunteer hours in.

That’s definitely tragic but it doesn’t make over parenting less of a societal issue.

You people really live in a bubble. There is no agency that exists to help “over-parented” children. CPS exists because far far far far more children in the US grow up never knowing there’s anything special about them. And for many it costs them their life - at the hands of their own parents. That’s tragic (!) It’s clear some of you would do well getting some volunteer hours in.

Anonymous wrote:A "teacher" on these boards once told me to teach my 3 to to "learn to sit" so she would behave better on a 5 hour cross country flight. This is not advice, it is.venting and taking out job frustrations on parents

Your three year old is a spoiled brat who needs to be forcibly held down and strapped in or you shouldn’t fly.

Mother of two toddlers here.

When a rich kid in my HS classroom, was putting his foot on the table...again, after a few times od unsuccessful please put your feet down, and then other boys started doing it... This happened... He put his feet up, and another boy did the same. I said nothing, so he put his feet down and asked why don't you tell me and him to put our feet down.
I calmly said, no need for that. I will just send you Dad the invoice for cleaning and broken desks. ( rich politician in D.C.)
They never put their feet up again.

Society is the problem too. In a daycare a two-year-old smashed a huge truck on the boy's head who was next to him. I got down to the boy's level and told him, that is not nice. Not shouted, nothing aggressive.
The male director of these centers who was visiting for the day, told me that I couldn't say that and should have asked the boy if he could express his feelings in some other way than hitting. In 2012 this way.
I almost wanted to tell them all to eff off that second and walk away. I quit a month later.

Yes, that rings true. I also made that mistake, so I am part of the problem. I was raised in former Yugoslavia and cleaned house every weekend, went to gramma and full-time music high school and it was never accepted as an excuse for my parents not to help with chores and behave properly. Now my dd is a mild narcissist at best, and a raging entitled lunatic at her worst.

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Anonymous wrote:I get that these parents are an annoyance to teachers. But let’s me real, look at the stats of who is at or above grade level proficiency- it’s the kids that have involved parents that “over parent.” Unfortunately, that is the minority of parents. The majority of schools are failing to even produce kids that work at grade level- and it isn’t because they are over-parented; opposite

Kids who are performing at or above grade level can still be entitled and royal PITAs. Coming from a “good home” does not negate behavioral issues. Many kids who are lagging academically are relatively more respectful to teachers. I have seen this with mine own eyes. (At least in elementary school.)

You are out of your mind. Maybe if there is a high immigrant population. But go teach in Detroit public schools or Baltimore public schools and report back how respectful the kids are

I teach in Baltimore City schools and the students at my school are pretty respectful for the most part. Some come to school never having heard the word "no" but that's more of a recent issue. They learn quickly because we teach them how to act. Most kids want to do the right thing but they just may not know what that is until someone shows them.

Isn't that what this thread is about? That recent issue?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get that these parents are an annoyance to teachers. But let’s me real, look at the stats of who is at or above grade level proficiency- it’s the kids that have involved parents that “over parent.” Unfortunately, that is the minority of parents. The majority of schools are failing to even produce kids that work at grade level- and it isn’t because they are over-parented; opposite

Kids who are performing at or above grade level can still be entitled and royal PITAs. Coming from a “good home” does not negate behavioral issues. Many kids who are lagging academically are relatively more respectful to teachers. I have seen this with mine own eyes. (At least in elementary school.)

You are out of your mind. Maybe if there is a high immigrant population. But go teach in Detroit public schools or Baltimore public schools and report back how respectful the kids are

I teach in Baltimore City schools and the students at my school are pretty respectful for the most part. Some come to school never having heard the word "no" but that's more of a recent issue. They learn quickly because we teach them how to act. Most kids want to do the right thing but they just may not know what that is until someone shows them.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get that these parents are an annoyance to teachers. But let’s me real, look at the stats of who is at or above grade level proficiency- it’s the kids that have involved parents that “over parent.” Unfortunately, that is the minority of parents. The majority of schools are failing to even produce kids that work at grade level- and it isn’t because they are over-parented; opposite

Kids who are performing at or above grade level can still be entitled and royal PITAs. Coming from a “good home” does not negate behavioral issues. Many kids who are lagging academically are relatively more respectful to teachers. I have seen this with mine own eyes. (At least in elementary school.)

You are out of your mind. Maybe if there is a high immigrant population. But go teach in Detroit public schools or Baltimore public schools and report back how respectful the kids are

I’m a different poster. I’ve taught in high AND low income schools. Trust me when I say both populations can be extremely disrespectful. It just presents differently. Try telling a high-income “do you know who my parents are” child that she received an 89%. It’s brutal.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get that these parents are an annoyance to teachers. But let’s me real, look at the stats of who is at or above grade level proficiency- it’s the kids that have involved parents that “over parent.” Unfortunately, that is the minority of parents. The majority of schools are failing to even produce kids that work at grade level- and it isn’t because they are over-parented; opposite

Kids who are performing at or above grade level can still be entitled and royal PITAs. Coming from a “good home” does not negate behavioral issues. Many kids who are lagging academically are relatively more respectful to teachers. I have seen this with mine own eyes. (At least in elementary school.)

You are out of your mind. Maybe if there is a high immigrant population. But go teach in Detroit public schools or Baltimore public schools and report back how respectful the kids are

Anonymous wrote:I get that these parents are an annoyance to teachers. But let’s me real, look at the stats of who is at or above grade level proficiency- it’s the kids that have involved parents that “over parent.” Unfortunately, that is the minority of parents. The majority of schools are failing to even produce kids that work at grade level- and it isn’t because they are over-parented; opposite

Kids who are performing at or above grade level can still be entitled and royal PITAs. Coming from a “good home” does not negate behavioral issues. Many kids who are lagging academically are relatively more respectful to teachers. I have seen this with mine own eyes. (At least in elementary school.)

I get that these parents are an annoyance to teachers. But let’s me real, look at the stats of who is at or above grade level proficiency- it’s the kids that have involved parents that “over parent.” Unfortunately, that is the minority of parents. The majority of schools are failing to even produce kids that work at grade level- and it isn’t because they are over-parented; opposite

A "teacher" on these boards once told me to teach my 3 to to "learn to sit" so she would behave better on a 5 hour cross country flight. This is not advice, it is.venting and taking out job frustrations on parents