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Anonymous wrote:https://www.vsba.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/VMPI-for-vdoe-website.pdf

Algebra was gone. “The VMPI initiative imagines math instruction for students that integrates existing
math content into blended courses for students typically in grades 8-10.
● The content from Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2 is not being eliminated by VMPI, but rather the content of these courses will be blended into a seamless progression of connected learning. This encourages students to connect mathematical concepts and develop a much deeper and more relevant understanding of each concept within its context and relevance.


Under VMPI, you would no longer see a class called Algebra (among others).

https://www.vsba.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/VMPI-for-vdoe-website.pdf

The content was blended in and classes were blended together. No choices were offered until late high school.

So if all students were taking the blended class in 8th grade (at the latest), then all students were starting algebra 1 in 8th (at the latest) - which is actually earlier the current baseline path, which is algebra 1 in 9th.

When did VDOE tell parents that "no choices were offered until late HS"? And that was "essentially happening"?

No. The Grade 8-10 courses purportedly blended four years of math (Math 8, Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2) into three years. If so, that would generate three high school math credits. But the three blended Grade 8-10 courses only generated two high school math credits, so it was watered down. In all likelihood, VMPI would have effectively been Algebra 1 in 9th and nearly all of Algebra 2 would have been blended with Precalculus like San Francisco did. VMPI needed to blend the courses so it was less obvious how much content they were chopping out and how much of Algebra 2 was going to be delayed until Precalculus.

We don't know because it never got that far. Math 8 has very little new content. And if you aren't skipping a year between A1 and A2 you build on more topics more fluidly with less extra review. And school districts would have been able to define/combine classes as they deemed necessary.

I see the “VMPI Troll” has discovered this thread.

She prolifically fought anyone who questioned VMPI back when our disastrous former governor was going along with it; she was and is quite nasty too. I suspect she was partly responsible for its planned implementation (and it was presented to both educators and parents as a done-deal).

Everyone knows what it was going to do. There is no sense in still telling lies about it now, PP.

Nothing nasty about debunking Republican lies and misinformation with facts, quotes, and screenshots.

This plan sucks. The whole equity in education at the expense of high achieving kids is utter 💩. It isn’t that it gives better opportunities for all. It deflates the top scores, artificially raises the bottom ones, and squished everyone in the middle. It appears “successful” when they claim grades have increased.

I’m 100% democrat except for this ridiculous nonsense.

I’m a former FCPS teacher and I haven’t encountered a single me person IRL who likes this other than the school board and some admin.

Well, I'm a hardcore right-wing extremist and love this plan. The GOP needs to dumb down the populace in order to grow its base and this helps with that goal.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh FFS with these posts.

No. It’s not happening. Stop trying to suggest it is happening.

but fear-mongering half-truths is how we get people to vote for crazy far-right candidates...

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.vsba.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/VMPI-for-vdoe-website.pdf

Algebra was gone. “The VMPI initiative imagines math instruction for students that integrates existing
math content into blended courses for students typically in grades 8-10.
● The content from Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2 is not being eliminated by VMPI, but rather the content of these courses will be blended into a seamless progression of connected learning. This encourages students to connect mathematical concepts and develop a much deeper and more relevant understanding of each concept within its context and relevance.


Under VMPI, you would no longer see a class called Algebra (among others).

https://www.vsba.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/VMPI-for-vdoe-website.pdf

The content was blended in and classes were blended together. No choices were offered until late high school.

So if all students were taking the blended class in 8th grade (at the latest), then all students were starting algebra 1 in 8th (at the latest) - which is actually earlier the current baseline path, which is algebra 1 in 9th.

When did VDOE tell parents that "no choices were offered until late HS"? And that was "essentially happening"?

No. The Grade 8-10 courses purportedly blended four years of math (Math 8, Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2) into three years. If so, that would generate three high school math credits. But the three blended Grade 8-10 courses only generated two high school math credits, so it was watered down. In all likelihood, VMPI would have effectively been Algebra 1 in 9th and nearly all of Algebra 2 would have been blended with Precalculus like San Francisco did. VMPI needed to blend the courses so it was less obvious how much content they were chopping out and how much of Algebra 2 was going to be delayed until Precalculus.

We don't know because it never got that far. Math 8 has very little new content. And if you aren't skipping a year between A1 and A2 you build on more topics more fluidly with less extra review. And school districts would have been able to define/combine classes as they deemed necessary.

I see the “VMPI Troll” has discovered this thread.

She prolifically fought anyone who questioned VMPI back when our disastrous former governor was going along with it; she was and is quite nasty too. I suspect she was partly responsible for its planned implementation (and it was presented to both educators and parents as a done-deal).

Everyone knows what it was going to do. There is no sense in still telling lies about it now, PP.

Nothing nasty about debunking Republican lies and misinformation with facts, quotes, and screenshots.

This plan sucks. The whole equity in education at the expense of high achieving kids is utter 💩. It isn’t that it gives better opportunities for all. It deflates the top scores, artificially raises the bottom ones, and squished everyone in the middle. It appears “successful” when they claim grades have increased.

I’m 100% democrat except for this ridiculous nonsense.

I’m a former FCPS teacher and I haven’t encountered a single me person IRL who likes this other than the school board and some admin.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.vsba.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/VMPI-for-vdoe-website.pdf

Algebra was gone. “The VMPI initiative imagines math instruction for students that integrates existing
math content into blended courses for students typically in grades 8-10.
● The content from Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2 is not being eliminated by VMPI, but rather the content of these courses will be blended into a seamless progression of connected learning. This encourages students to connect mathematical concepts and develop a much deeper and more relevant understanding of each concept within its context and relevance.


Under VMPI, you would no longer see a class called Algebra (among others).

https://www.vsba.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/VMPI-for-vdoe-website.pdf

The content was blended in and classes were blended together. No choices were offered until late high school.

So if all students were taking the blended class in 8th grade (at the latest), then all students were starting algebra 1 in 8th (at the latest) - which is actually earlier the current baseline path, which is algebra 1 in 9th.

When did VDOE tell parents that "no choices were offered until late HS"? And that was "essentially happening"?

No. The Grade 8-10 courses purportedly blended four years of math (Math 8, Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2) into three years. If so, that would generate three high school math credits. But the three blended Grade 8-10 courses only generated two high school math credits, so it was watered down. In all likelihood, VMPI would have effectively been Algebra 1 in 9th and nearly all of Algebra 2 would have been blended with Precalculus like San Francisco did. VMPI needed to blend the courses so it was less obvious how much content they were chopping out and how much of Algebra 2 was going to be delayed until Precalculus.

We don't know because it never got that far. Math 8 has very little new content. And if you aren't skipping a year between A1 and A2 you build on more topics more fluidly with less extra review. And school districts would have been able to define/combine classes as they deemed necessary.

I see the “VMPI Troll” has discovered this thread.

She prolifically fought anyone who questioned VMPI back when our disastrous former governor was going along with it; she was and is quite nasty too. I suspect she was partly responsible for its planned implementation (and it was presented to both educators and parents as a done-deal).

Everyone knows what it was going to do. There is no sense in still telling lies about it now, PP.

Nothing nasty about debunking Republican lies and misinformation with facts, quotes, and screenshots.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.vsba.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/VMPI-for-vdoe-website.pdf

Algebra was gone. “The VMPI initiative imagines math instruction for students that integrates existing
math content into blended courses for students typically in grades 8-10.
● The content from Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2 is not being eliminated by VMPI, but rather the content of these courses will be blended into a seamless progression of connected learning. This encourages students to connect mathematical concepts and develop a much deeper and more relevant understanding of each concept within its context and relevance.


Under VMPI, you would no longer see a class called Algebra (among others).

https://www.vsba.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/VMPI-for-vdoe-website.pdf

The content was blended in and classes were blended together. No choices were offered until late high school.

So if all students were taking the blended class in 8th grade (at the latest), then all students were starting algebra 1 in 8th (at the latest) - which is actually earlier the current baseline path, which is algebra 1 in 9th.

When did VDOE tell parents that "no choices were offered until late HS"? And that was "essentially happening"?

No. The Grade 8-10 courses purportedly blended four years of math (Math 8, Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2) into three years. If so, that would generate three high school math credits. But the three blended Grade 8-10 courses only generated two high school math credits, so it was watered down. In all likelihood, VMPI would have effectively been Algebra 1 in 9th and nearly all of Algebra 2 would have been blended with Precalculus like San Francisco did. VMPI needed to blend the courses so it was less obvious how much content they were chopping out and how much of Algebra 2 was going to be delayed until Precalculus.

We don't know because it never got that far. Math 8 has very little new content. And if you aren't skipping a year between A1 and A2 you build on more topics more fluidly with less extra review. And school districts would have been able to define/combine classes as they deemed necessary.

I see the “VMPI Troll” has discovered this thread.

She prolifically fought anyone who questioned VMPI back when our disastrous former governor was going along with it; she was and is quite nasty too. I suspect she was partly responsible for its planned implementation (and it was presented to both educators and parents as a done-deal).

Everyone knows what it was going to do. There is no sense in still telling lies about it now, PP.

Nothing nasty about debunking Republican lies and misinformation with facts, quotes, and screenshots.

Anonymous wrote:No, the strategic plan has an explicit goal of increasing the number of kids taking Algebra in 8th. She just presented on these efforts at the last board meeting. It includes curriculum changes to make sure kids learn what they need to know in early grades.

Anonymous wrote:Yet another thread started based on nothing to try to generate fear before the election.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.vsba.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/VMPI-for-vdoe-website.pdf

Algebra was gone. “The VMPI initiative imagines math instruction for students that integrates existing
math content into blended courses for students typically in grades 8-10.
● The content from Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2 is not being eliminated by VMPI, but rather the content of these courses will be blended into a seamless progression of connected learning. This encourages students to connect mathematical concepts and develop a much deeper and more relevant understanding of each concept within its context and relevance.


Under VMPI, you would no longer see a class called Algebra (among others).

https://www.vsba.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/VMPI-for-vdoe-website.pdf

The content was blended in and classes were blended together. No choices were offered until late high school.

So if all students were taking the blended class in 8th grade (at the latest), then all students were starting algebra 1 in 8th (at the latest) - which is actually earlier the current baseline path, which is algebra 1 in 9th.

When did VDOE tell parents that "no choices were offered until late HS"? And that was "essentially happening"?

No. The Grade 8-10 courses purportedly blended four years of math (Math 8, Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2) into three years. If so, that would generate three high school math credits. But the three blended Grade 8-10 courses only generated two high school math credits, so it was watered down. In all likelihood, VMPI would have effectively been Algebra 1 in 9th and nearly all of Algebra 2 would have been blended with Precalculus like San Francisco did. VMPI needed to blend the courses so it was less obvious how much content they were chopping out and how much of Algebra 2 was going to be delayed until Precalculus.

We don't know because it never got that far. Math 8 has very little new content. And if you aren't skipping a year between A1 and A2 you build on more topics more fluidly with less extra review. And school districts would have been able to define/combine classes as they deemed necessary.

I see the “VMPI Troll” has discovered this thread.

She prolifically fought anyone who questioned VMPI back when our disastrous former governor was going along with it; she was and is quite nasty too. I suspect she was partly responsible for its planned implementation (and it was presented to both educators and parents as a done-deal).

Everyone knows what it was going to do. There is no sense in still telling lies about it now, PP.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.vsba.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/VMPI-for-vdoe-website.pdf

Algebra was gone. “The VMPI initiative imagines math instruction for students that integrates existing
math content into blended courses for students typically in grades 8-10.
● The content from Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2 is not being eliminated by VMPI, but rather the content of these courses will be blended into a seamless progression of connected learning. This encourages students to connect mathematical concepts and develop a much deeper and more relevant understanding of each concept within its context and relevance.


Under VMPI, you would no longer see a class called Algebra (among others).

https://www.vsba.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/VMPI-for-vdoe-website.pdf

The content was blended in and classes were blended together. No choices were offered until late high school.

So if all students were taking the blended class in 8th grade (at the latest), then all students were starting algebra 1 in 8th (at the latest) - which is actually earlier the current baseline path, which is algebra 1 in 9th.

When did VDOE tell parents that "no choices were offered until late HS"? And that was "essentially happening"?

No. The Grade 8-10 courses purportedly blended four years of math (Math 8, Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2) into three years. If so, that would generate three high school math credits. But the three blended Grade 8-10 courses only generated two high school math credits, so it was watered down. In all likelihood, VMPI would have effectively been Algebra 1 in 9th and nearly all of Algebra 2 would have been blended with Precalculus like San Francisco did. VMPI needed to blend the courses so it was less obvious how much content they were chopping out and how much of Algebra 2 was going to be delayed until Precalculus.

We don't know because it never got that far. Math 8 has very little new content. And if you aren't skipping a year between A1 and A2 you build on more topics more fluidly with less extra review. And school districts would have been able to define/combine classes as they deemed necessary.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.vsba.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/VMPI-for-vdoe-website.pdf

Algebra was gone. “The VMPI initiative imagines math instruction for students that integrates existing
math content into blended courses for students typically in grades 8-10.
● The content from Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2 is not being eliminated by VMPI, but rather the content of these courses will be blended into a seamless progression of connected learning. This encourages students to connect mathematical concepts and develop a much deeper and more relevant understanding of each concept within its context and relevance.


Under VMPI, you would no longer see a class called Algebra (among others).

https://www.vsba.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/VMPI-for-vdoe-website.pdf

The content was blended in and classes were blended together. No choices were offered until late high school.

So if all students were taking the blended class in 8th grade (at the latest), then all students were starting algebra 1 in 8th (at the latest) - which is actually earlier the current baseline path, which is algebra 1 in 9th.

When did VDOE tell parents that "no choices were offered until late HS"? And that was "essentially happening"?

No. The Grade 8-10 courses purportedly blended four years of math (Math 8, Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2) into three years. If so, that would generate three high school math credits. But the three blended Grade 8-10 courses only generated two high school math credits, so it was watered down. In all likelihood, VMPI would have effectively been Algebra 1 in 9th and nearly all of Algebra 2 would have been blended with Precalculus like San Francisco did. VMPI needed to blend the courses so it was less obvious how much content they were chopping out and how much of Algebra 2 was going to be delayed until Precalculus.

Anonymous wrote:Once again for the bozo in the back: it was presented in FCPS as a fait accompli. You weren’t there. I was. At multiple presentations.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.vsba.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/VMPI-for-vdoe-website.pdf

Algebra was gone. “The VMPI initiative imagines math instruction for students that integrates existing
math content into blended courses for students typically in grades 8-10.
● The content from Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2 is not being eliminated by VMPI, but rather the content of these courses will be blended into a seamless progression of connected learning. This encourages students to connect mathematical concepts and develop a much deeper and more relevant understanding of each concept within its context and relevance.


Under VMPI, you would no longer see a class called Algebra (among others).

https://www.vsba.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/VMPI-for-vdoe-website.pdf

The content was blended in and classes were blended together. No choices were offered until late high school.

So if all students were taking the blended class in 8th grade (at the latest), then all students were starting algebra 1 in 8th (at the latest) - which is actually earlier the current baseline path, which is algebra 1 in 9th.

When did VDOE tell parents that "no choices were offered until late HS"? And that was "essentially happening"?

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Anonymous wrote:Here was what I got in an FCPS email:

Understanding the Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative

Fairfax County Public Schools is preparing for the implementation of the Virginia Department of Education’s (VDOE) Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative (VMPI) and we want families to be aware of proposed changes to Mathematics course offerings. To understand the proposed changes to the course progressions, VDOE is offering Community Informational Sessions on the following dates:

Tuesday, March 23, 6:30 p.m.—Why Change Mathematics Instruction?
Tuesday, April 13, 6:30 p.m.—How Does VMPI Affect Virginia Children’s Futures?
Tuesday, April 27, 6:30 p.m.—Essential Concepts in Grades 8-10
Tuesday, May 25, 6:30 p.m.—Advanced Pathways in Grades 11-12
Questions participants would like to have addressed during the sessions can be submitted online. For additional information, visit VMPI's webpage

This doesn't say anything about removing algebra 1 from middle school.

Sigh. Read the link above I prefaced with “background.” Quoting it: “ The Virginia Mathematics Pathway Initiative (VMPI) would replace the traditional mathematics progression of Algebra 1, Geometry, and Algebra 2 courses with courses that teach so-called “essential” topics. Under the plan, all students would take the same courses through the tenth grade but would then be allowed to enroll in classes that correspond with their post-graduation career plans.”

Under VMPI, all students too the same math classes until 2 years before graduation. Do you interpret that to mean all 7th graders took algebra?

That was a quote from a politician based on misinformation.

When did VDOE tell parents that their kids would no longer be able to take algebra 1 in middle school? And that VDOE "not only considered it, but parents were told it was essentially happening"

At the time, I emailed them personally about the algebra questions and they said it wasn't fully worked out. They didn't say - it's definitely off the table. Though now I feel they have sufficiently seen the error of their ways that it is off the table for now.

So you were not told that it was "essentially happening"?