Anonymous
10/27/2023 19:07
Subject: Re:Golf Course Project Would Clear-Cut 8 Acres Of Forest In Rock Creek Park
NPS on renovation.
To restore the course, the National Park Service is proposing to remove more than 1,200 trees, of this total, more than 366 were determined to be in poor health or already dead, and nearly 190 are non-native, invasive species that pose a threat to native plant species, and nearly 291 are being removed to promote forest health. To mitigate for these tree removals, up to 200 native species trees would be planted in the course. Also, more than eight acres of meadows would be rehabilitated throughout the golf course, and an additional 4.5 acres would be planted in the northern section of the course. This would significantly increase the amount of meadow habitat in Rock Creek Park, a critically important action for the preservation of native pollinator species such as the Monarch butterfly and the many bee species that live in the park.
To restore the course, the National Park Service is proposing to remove more than 1,200 trees, of this total, more than 366 were determined to be in poor health or already dead, and nearly 190 are non-native, invasive species that pose a threat to native plant species, and nearly 291 are being removed to promote forest health. To mitigate for these tree removals, up to 200 native species trees would be planted in the course. Also, more than eight acres of meadows would be rehabilitated throughout the golf course, and an additional 4.5 acres would be planted in the northern section of the course. This would significantly increase the amount of meadow habitat in Rock Creek Park, a critically important action for the preservation of native pollinator species such as the Monarch butterfly and the many bee species that live in the park.
Anonymous
10/27/2023 17:02
Subject: Golf Course Project Would Clear-Cut 8 Acres Of Forest In Rock Creek Park
Anonymous wrote:The “golf lobby” in this case is a contractor that got a 50 year exclusive lease on RCP course from the Trump administration.
If that were true, then it wouldnt be a dump
National Trust is a nonprofit. It files a 990 with the IRS. YOu could have checked that before blathering nonsense. It is a non profit (901(c)(b) charitable organization.. https://www.guidestar.org/Profile/84-2249627
Anonymous
10/27/2023 06:26
Subject: Re:Golf Course Project Would Clear-Cut 8 Acres Of Forest In Rock Creek Park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I didn't even know there was a golf course. I haven't gone in Rock Creek since Chandra Levy was found--a woman
Well, that’s your choice.
Yes, it is. I wouldn't never walk or jog there or Glover Archbold alone as a woman, or likely as a man. They found other bodies in Rock Creek while they were searching for Chandra (who they found eventually).
Off topic but I don’t know how someone would get away with a murder and/or hide a body in RCP undiscovered, unless it was in the middle of the night or during a snowstorm. I have never felt unsafe in any part of Rock Creek and no trail seems remote enough for screams or altercations to be unheard. I never go more than 3-5 minutes without seeing another hiker.
There are way more remote trails in Montgomery County that you could actually get lost in and maybe not be heard if you cry for help. But certainly not RCP in DC. I guess it may have been different 20 years ago?
If it helps you to better understand, there was also a woman who was attacked, raped and killed in that tiny patch of wooded area (I believe) by Canal Road in Georgetown?: "Warrick, now 60, is suspected of killing 29-year-old Christine Mirzayan in August 1998. She was sexually assaulted and murdered as she walked to her home in Georgetown. Her body was found near Whitehurst Freeway." You can look up her case. Chandra was dragged not far off the trail, bound with her leggings and murdered. You can probably be disabled fairly quickly with no screams or altercations by someone determined. It really stinks to be a more likely victim in America, woman, child (girl or boy), slight man, etc. I resent that I am upping my risk walking late at night or in secluded areas alone. I should be allowed to walk where I like. I wish I was free. I feel so very not free in Washington DC. the irony.
Please be careful as you jog the park without a partner. Take all the things, do all the things.
https://www.fbi.gov/image-repository/christine-mirzayan/view
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/local-opinions/20-years-after-my-intern-was-killed-her-alleged-killer-has-been-caught/2020/01/24/6ce1d290-3d34-11ea-baca-eb7ace0a3455_story.html
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/potomac-river-rapist-who-terrorized-dc-maryland-in-90s-arrested/2141622/
Anonymous
10/26/2023 23:24
Subject: Golf Course Project Would Clear-Cut 8 Acres Of Forest In Rock Creek Park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC has 1.9 million trees, for context. 175k of those are on public lands.
There’s no way Dc has that many trees. That’s impossible.
You're right... it has more!
2.4 million.
See:
https://caseytrees.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/iTree-2015-Report_English.pdf
Anonymous
10/26/2023 23:16
Subject: Golf Course Project Would Clear-Cut 8 Acres Of Forest In Rock Creek Park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This will pretty much doom the Hayes Spring Amphipod. Between the loss of forest canopy and the lowered ground water levels from irrigation wells and the toxic fertilizers and herbicide used to maintain golf course greens, there’s no way it will survive.
It’s a tragedy a critically endangered species that lives ONLY right here in DC will go extinct under President Biden’s watch. I wouldve expected this under Trump… but Biden? It’s a cruel slap.
OK, I'm as liberal as it get but I think Biden is a bit busy these days. As far as the golf course, the back 9 holes are unplayable. The could start with clearing that area. I live across the street from the course and may go down and ask about this.
Alright - head down there and get the details and report back here.
Anonymous
10/26/2023 23:11
Subject: Golf Course Project Would Clear-Cut 8 Acres Of Forest In Rock Creek Park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The “golf lobby” in this case is a contractor that got a 50 year exclusive lease on RCP course from the Trump administration.
If that were true, then it wouldnt be a dump
It’s literally true. Go read the article linked in the OP’s post:
In 2020, a newly formed nonprofit called the National Links Trust won a 50-year lease to operate the golf course. The group proposed the rehabilitation project as a way to “address deferred maintenance, increase playability, broaden course appeal to the local community, and achieve financial stability” for the golf course. Under the plan, the old 18-hole course would be split into two 9-hole courses, with a new driving range. The project would also include a new clubhouse, golf cart building, picnic pavilion, and maintenance building.
The National Links Trust executive director was unavailable for comment for this story.
OMG do you never do the quickest check on something before you just pull it out of your as@ and post here? Two clicks: National Links Trust files a 990 with the IRS. What does that mean? It is a non profit (901(c)(b) charitable organization.. https://www.guidestar.org/Profile/84-2249627
Who ran the government in 2020 when this newly formed nonprofit was given a 50 year lease by NPS?
Anonymous
10/26/2023 23:06
Subject: Re:Golf Course Project Would Clear-Cut 8 Acres Of Forest In Rock Creek Park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I didn't even know there was a golf course. I haven't gone in Rock Creek since Chandra Levy was found
Well, that’s your choice.
Yes, it is. I wouldn't never walk or jog there or Glover Archbold alone as a woman, or likely as a man. They found other bodies in Rock Creek while they were searching for Chandra (who they found eventually).
Yes but you’ve never gone on a walk or hike with another person?
Does anyone who doesn;t drive use Rock Creek? I'm from DC and I've only gone to that little book a BBQ area on the side for school events. I've never gone "in". How do you get to the golf course and horse stables and walking trails without a car? I'm from DC. Maybe my parents took me? Can't really remember. For me it's a nice lung for the city, like central park. I like looking down at the trees from bridges. It makes getting across town inconvenient. It's not a park I use. I use other parks way more; that's why I worry when development encroaches on the smaller, more accessible green spaces. But sure, I'm glad it's there. Again, I don't use it and I wouldn't feel safe walking most parts alone. And no, I've not walked or hiked Rock Creek with anyone else. Is this a thing?
Yes, people have picnics, set up screens and watch movies outside, ride horses, hike, swing in their hammocks, visit the turtles in the nature center or go to the planetarium.
I go all the time and like sitting by the creek.
Anonymous
10/26/2023 22:51
Subject: Re:Golf Course Project Would Clear-Cut 8 Acres Of Forest In Rock Creek Park
Get rid of the golf course. Simples. And cheap.
Anonymous
10/26/2023 22:48
Subject: Golf Course Project Would Clear-Cut 8 Acres Of Forest In Rock Creek Park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The “golf lobby” in this case is a contractor that got a 50 year exclusive lease on RCP course from the Trump administration.
If that were true, then it wouldnt be a dump
It’s literally true. Go read the article linked in the OP’s post:
In 2020, a newly formed nonprofit called the National Links Trust won a 50-year lease to operate the golf course. The group proposed the rehabilitation project as a way to “address deferred maintenance, increase playability, broaden course appeal to the local community, and achieve financial stability” for the golf course. Under the plan, the old 18-hole course would be split into two 9-hole courses, with a new driving range. The project would also include a new clubhouse, golf cart building, picnic pavilion, and maintenance building.
The National Links Trust executive director was unavailable for comment for this story.
Who ran the government in 2020 when this newly formed nonprofit was given a 50 year lease by NPS?
It is hilarious that you think the National Parks Service awarding a concession is some sort of major conspiracy.
+1. Also hilarious to think that Trump would care about this particular course. If you had golfed Trump national you would understand.
Anonymous
10/26/2023 22:42
Subject: Golf Course Project Would Clear-Cut 8 Acres Of Forest In Rock Creek Park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The “golf lobby” in this case is a contractor that got a 50 year exclusive lease on RCP course from the Trump administration.
If that were true, then it wouldnt be a dump
It’s literally true. Go read the article linked in the OP’s post:
In 2020, a newly formed nonprofit called the National Links Trust won a 50-year lease to operate the golf course. The group proposed the rehabilitation project as a way to “address deferred maintenance, increase playability, broaden course appeal to the local community, and achieve financial stability” for the golf course. Under the plan, the old 18-hole course would be split into two 9-hole courses, with a new driving range. The project would also include a new clubhouse, golf cart building, picnic pavilion, and maintenance building.
The National Links Trust executive director was unavailable for comment for this story.
Who ran the government in 2020 when this newly formed nonprofit was given a 50 year lease by NPS?
It is hilarious that you think the National Parks Service awarding a concession is some sort of major conspiracy.
Anonymous
10/26/2023 14:32
Subject: Re:Golf Course Project Would Clear-Cut 8 Acres Of Forest In Rock Creek Park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I didn't even know there was a golf course. I haven't gone in Rock Creek since Chandra Levy was found
Well, that’s your choice.
Yes, it is. I wouldn't never walk or jog there or Glover Archbold alone as a woman, or likely as a man. They found other bodies in Rock Creek while they were searching for Chandra (who they found eventually).
Off topic but I don’t know how someone would get away with a murder and/or hide a body in RCP undiscovered, unless it was in the middle of the night or during a snowstorm. I have never felt unsafe in any part of Rock Creek and no trail seems remote enough for screams or altercations to be unheard. I never go more than 3-5 minutes without seeing another hiker.
There are way more remote trails in Montgomery County that you could actually get lost in and maybe not be heard if you cry for help. But certainly not RCP in DC. I guess it may have been different 20 years ago?
Anonymous
10/26/2023 14:19
Subject: Golf Course Project Would Clear-Cut 8 Acres Of Forest In Rock Creek Park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The “golf lobby” in this case is a contractor that got a 50 year exclusive lease on RCP course from the Trump administration.
If that were true, then it wouldnt be a dump
It’s literally true. Go read the article linked in the OP’s post:
In 2020, a newly formed nonprofit called the National Links Trust won a 50-year lease to operate the golf course. The group proposed the rehabilitation project as a way to “address deferred maintenance, increase playability, broaden course appeal to the local community, and achieve financial stability” for the golf course. Under the plan, the old 18-hole course would be split into two 9-hole courses, with a new driving range. The project would also include a new clubhouse, golf cart building, picnic pavilion, and maintenance building.
The National Links Trust executive director was unavailable for comment for this story.
Who ran the government in 2020 when this newly formed nonprofit was given a 50 year lease by NPS?
WGAF? Are you going to pretend to live in DC and not know that every single administration does this?
Anonymous
10/26/2023 14:11
Subject: Golf Course Project Would Clear-Cut 8 Acres Of Forest In Rock Creek Park
Anonymous wrote:The “golf lobby” in this case is a contractor that got a 50 year exclusive lease on RCP course from the Trump administration.
If that were true, then it wouldnt be a dump
It’s literally true. Go read the article linked in the OP’s post:
In 2020, a newly formed nonprofit called the National Links Trust won a 50-year lease to operate the golf course. The group proposed the rehabilitation project as a way to “address deferred maintenance, increase playability, broaden course appeal to the local community, and achieve financial stability” for the golf course. Under the plan, the old 18-hole course would be split into two 9-hole courses, with a new driving range. The project would also include a new clubhouse, golf cart building, picnic pavilion, and maintenance building.
The National Links Trust executive director was unavailable for comment for this story.
Who ran the government in 2020 when this newly formed nonprofit was given a 50 year lease by NPS?
Anonymous
10/26/2023 13:27
Subject: Golf Course Project Would Clear-Cut 8 Acres Of Forest In Rock Creek Park
The “golf lobby” in this case is a contractor that got a 50 year exclusive lease on RCP course from the Trump administration.
If that were true, then it wouldnt be a dump
If that were true, then it wouldnt be a dump
Anonymous
10/26/2023 13:11
Subject: Re:Golf Course Project Would Clear-Cut 8 Acres Of Forest In Rock Creek Park
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Golf Lobby is too powerful in DC!
LOL the "Golf Lobby" doesn't golf at RCP. They golf at private clubs.
The “golf lobby” in this case is a contractor that got a 50 year exclusive lease on RCP course from the Trump administration.