Anonymous
10/20/2023 11:48
Subject: University of Alabama
I am quite confident the experience of the 1100 plusnational merit semifinalists in the honor college is quite different than for the rest of the student body. There are also kids there just to party, no one is disputing that.
Anonymous
10/20/2023 11:45
Subject: Re:University of Alabama
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In strictly academic terms, it's just a terrible school.
Where is your evidence?
I'm a professor at a R1 university. But go ahead and choose any field at random and see where UofA is ranked in that field. This isn't hard.
Example?
DP. Here you go (from US News). Depending on your perspective, these can be good or bad. Now pls. shut up so the discussion can turn constructive.. A lot of parents (including me) want to hear honest feedback on the school. Their overall ranking is 170, but the rank that really matters (outcomes rank) is 245. Wish they had a ranking for post-grad income to complete the picture, but that's likely asking for too much.. If you don't trust US News, you are welcome to google other rankings yourself.
The University of Alabama Rankings
#170 in National Universities (tie)
#91 in Top Public Schools (tie)
#153 in Best Value Schools
#90 in Best Undergraduate Engineering Programs (tie)
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate
#47 in Business Programs (tie)
#28 in Accounting (tie)
#40 in Marketing (tie)
#82 in Computer Science (tie)
#31 in Nursing (tie)
#118 in Psychology Programs (tie)
#99 in Economics (tie)
#118 in Best Colleges for Veterans (tie)
#410 in Top Performers on Social Mobility (tie)
U.S. News Overall Score - Score (out of 100) 55
Outcomes (52%)
Outcomes rank 245
Average 6-year graduation rate (16%) 72%
Average first-year student retention rate (5%) 88%
Social Mobility Rank 410
6-year graduation rate of students who received a Pell Grant (3%) 59%
6-year graduation rate of students who did not receive a Pell Grant (3%) 76%
6-year graduation rate of first generation students (2.5%) 56%
6-year graduation rate of non-first generation students (2.5%) 69%
Predicted graduation rate (10%) 77%
Overperformance(+)/Underperformance(-) -4
Median federal loan debt for borrowers (5%) $22,750
College grads earning more than a HS grad (5%) 82%
Wow. It’s even worse than I thought.
+1 I think it's great for the school to use merit aid to try and attract strong OOS students, but it's got a long way to go before it has a solid academic reputation.
Anonymous
10/20/2023 11:43
Subject: Re:University of Alabama
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In strictly academic terms, it's just a terrible school.
Where is your evidence?
I'm a professor at a R1 university. But go ahead and choose any field at random and see where UofA is ranked in that field. This isn't hard.
Example?
DP. Here you go (from US News). Depending on your perspective, these can be good or bad. Now pls. shut up so the discussion can turn constructive.. A lot of parents (including me) want to hear honest feedback on the school. Their overall ranking is 170, but the rank that really matters (outcomes rank) is 245. Wish they had a ranking for post-grad income to complete the picture, but that's likely asking for too much.. If you don't trust US News, you are welcome to google other rankings yourself.
The University of Alabama Rankings
#170 in National Universities (tie)
#91 in Top Public Schools (tie)
#153 in Best Value Schools
#90 in Best Undergraduate Engineering Programs (tie)
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate
#47 in Business Programs (tie)
#28 in Accounting (tie)
#40 in Marketing (tie)
#82 in Computer Science (tie)
#31 in Nursing (tie)
#118 in Psychology Programs (tie)
#99 in Economics (tie)
#118 in Best Colleges for Veterans (tie)
#410 in Top Performers on Social Mobility (tie)
U.S. News Overall Score - Score (out of 100) 55
Outcomes (52%)
Outcomes rank 245
Average 6-year graduation rate (16%) 72%
Average first-year student retention rate (5%) 88%
Social Mobility Rank 410
6-year graduation rate of students who received a Pell Grant (3%) 59%
6-year graduation rate of students who did not receive a Pell Grant (3%) 76%
6-year graduation rate of first generation students (2.5%) 56%
6-year graduation rate of non-first generation students (2.5%) 69%
Predicted graduation rate (10%) 77%
Overperformance(+)/Underperformance(-) -4
Median federal loan debt for borrowers (5%) $22,750
College grads earning more than a HS grad (5%) 82%
Wow. It’s even worse than I thought.
Anonymous
10/20/2023 10:14
Subject: Re:University of Alabama
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In strictly academic terms, it's just a terrible school.
Where is your evidence?
I'm a professor at a R1 university. But go ahead and choose any field at random and see where UofA is ranked in that field. This isn't hard.
Example?
DP. Here you go (from US News). Depending on your perspective, these can be good or bad. Now pls. shut up so the discussion can turn constructive.. A lot of parents (including me) want to hear honest feedback on the school. Their overall ranking is 170, but the rank that really matters (outcomes rank) is 245. Wish they had a ranking for post-grad income to complete the picture, but that's likely asking for too much.. If you don't trust US News, you are welcome to google other rankings yourself.
The University of Alabama Rankings
#170 in National Universities (tie)
#91 in Top Public Schools (tie)
#153 in Best Value Schools
#90 in Best Undergraduate Engineering Programs (tie)
At schools whose highest degree is a doctorate
#47 in Business Programs (tie)
#28 in Accounting (tie)
#40 in Marketing (tie)
#82 in Computer Science (tie)
#31 in Nursing (tie)
#118 in Psychology Programs (tie)
#99 in Economics (tie)
#118 in Best Colleges for Veterans (tie)
#410 in Top Performers on Social Mobility (tie)
U.S. News Overall Score - Score (out of 100) 55
Outcomes (52%)
Outcomes rank 245
Average 6-year graduation rate (16%) 72%
Average first-year student retention rate (5%) 88%
Social Mobility Rank 410
6-year graduation rate of students who received a Pell Grant (3%) 59%
6-year graduation rate of students who did not receive a Pell Grant (3%) 76%
6-year graduation rate of first generation students (2.5%) 56%
6-year graduation rate of non-first generation students (2.5%) 69%
Predicted graduation rate (10%) 77%
Overperformance(+)/Underperformance(-) -4
Median federal loan debt for borrowers (5%) $22,750
College grads earning more than a HS grad (5%) 82%
Anonymous
10/20/2023 07:14
Subject: University of Alabama
DC just got admitted! Lots of excitement in our house.
Anonymous
10/20/2023 01:54
Subject: Re:University of Alabama
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In strictly academic terms, it's just a terrible school.
Where is your evidence?
I'm a professor at a R1 university. But go ahead and choose any field at random and see where UofA is ranked in that field. This isn't hard.
Example?
Anonymous
10/20/2023 01:00
Subject: Re:University of Alabama
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In strictly academic terms, it's just a terrible school.
Where is your evidence?
I'm a professor at a R1 university. But go ahead and choose any field at random and see where UofA is ranked in that field. This isn't hard.
Anonymous
10/19/2023 15:04
Subject: Re:University of Alabama
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This topic is done to death on this site.
Yes but on this site, pointing and shrieking at the South never gets old.
my objection has nothing to do with geographic location - it just happens to be where the lawmakers are crazy.
We're also avoiding the Dakotas, Indiana, Ohio, Iowa...the list goes on.
I'm sorry your life is so restricted. That must be tough.
hey, we can visit - just not choosing these states as places to spend several years.
I'm forced yearly to visit one because my In-Laws live there - Nice people, backwards state.
My daughter's choices are NOT really all that limited. She's applying to at least 10 schools. Very excited about one in new england that we recently visited. I honestly feel like that is the best choice of all of them because the state is unlikely to swing in any way anytime in the near future.
Anonymous
10/19/2023 14:26
Subject: Re:University of Alabama
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This topic is done to death on this site.
Yes but on this site, pointing and shrieking at the South never gets old.
my objection has nothing to do with geographic location - it just happens to be where the lawmakers are crazy.
We're also avoiding the Dakotas, Indiana, Ohio, Iowa...the list goes on.
I'm sorry your life is so restricted. That must be tough.
Anonymous
10/19/2023 14:26
Subject: Re:University of Alabama
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This topic is done to death on this site.
Yes but on this site, pointing and shrieking at the South never gets old.
my objection has nothing to do with geographic location - it just happens to be where the lawmakers are crazy.
We're also avoiding the Dakotas, Indiana, Ohio, Iowa...the list goes on.
The lawmakers are crazy in NYC, Chicago, SF, LA, Philly, Seattle... the list goes on... are you also avoiding those cities?
we're not looking at any city schools, so...
State laws are harder to deal with than city, though.
The law is the law. If you live in that city you have to obey their laws. And more to the point, their refusal to enforce the laws on other people is going to affect you every single day even if you obey the law yourself.
The "crazy" laws in the South aren't going to affect anyone intelligent.
this is the most privileged load of crap I think has ever been posted, and that says a lot
Anonymous
10/19/2023 14:24
Subject: Re:University of Alabama
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This topic is done to death on this site.
Yes but on this site, pointing and shrieking at the South never gets old.
my objection has nothing to do with geographic location - it just happens to be where the lawmakers are crazy.
We're also avoiding the Dakotas, Indiana, Ohio, Iowa...the list goes on.
The lawmakers are crazy in NYC, Chicago, SF, LA, Philly, Seattle... the list goes on... are you also avoiding those cities?
we're not looking at any city schools, so...
State laws are harder to deal with than city, though.
The law is the law. If you live in that city you have to obey their laws. And more to the point, their refusal to enforce the laws on other people is going to affect you every single day even if you obey the law yourself.
The "crazy" laws in the South aren't going to affect anyone intelligent.
Anonymous
10/19/2023 14:04
Subject: Re:University of Alabama
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This topic is done to death on this site.
Yes but on this site, pointing and shrieking at the South never gets old.
my objection has nothing to do with geographic location - it just happens to be where the lawmakers are crazy.
We're also avoiding the Dakotas, Indiana, Ohio, Iowa...the list goes on.
The lawmakers are crazy in NYC, Chicago, SF, LA, Philly, Seattle... the list goes on... are you also avoiding those cities?
we're not looking at any city schools, so...
State laws are harder to deal with than city, though.
Anonymous
10/19/2023 13:52
Subject: Re:University of Alabama
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This topic is done to death on this site.
Yes but on this site, pointing and shrieking at the South never gets old.
my objection has nothing to do with geographic location - it just happens to be where the lawmakers are crazy.
We're also avoiding the Dakotas, Indiana, Ohio, Iowa...the list goes on.
The lawmakers are crazy in NYC, Chicago, SF, LA, Philly, Seattle... the list goes on... are you also avoiding those cities?
Not just the lawmakers...South is where it's at...
Anonymous
10/19/2023 13:48
Subject: Re:University of Alabama
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This topic is done to death on this site.
Yes but on this site, pointing and shrieking at the South never gets old.
my objection has nothing to do with geographic location - it just happens to be where the lawmakers are crazy.
We're also avoiding the Dakotas, Indiana, Ohio, Iowa...the list goes on.
The lawmakers are crazy in NYC, Chicago, SF, LA, Philly, Seattle... the list goes on... are you also avoiding those cities?
Anonymous
10/19/2023 12:15
Subject: Re:University of Alabama
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This topic is done to death on this site.
Yes but on this site, pointing and shrieking at the South never gets old.
my objection has nothing to do with geographic location - it just happens to be where the lawmakers are crazy.
We're also avoiding the Dakotas, Indiana, Ohio, Iowa...the list goes on.