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Anonymous wrote:Aside from FA, why would anyone not apply to their reach ED? Seems like chance of acceptance is much higher, so maybe the best way to approach a reach. Are college counselors not promoting this? (DC is a sophomore so I am not dealing with them much yet). Thanks

DS's top choice only has EA, that's why.

Same. It doesn't allow us to apply to any other private universities EA or ED. And only EA to public universities.

So he has two EAs with 11/1 deadlines and the rest are RD.

Is this typical? DS's school doesn't have any such restrictions.

PP is likely referring to a scea or rea type of ea app. It's not the high school that restricts, it's the college's special ea requirements (Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, Georgetown)

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Anonymous wrote:Aside from FA, why would anyone not apply to their reach ED? Seems like chance of acceptance is much higher, so maybe the best way to approach a reach. Are college counselors not promoting this? (DC is a sophomore so I am not dealing with them much yet). Thanks

DS's top choice only has EA, that's why.

Same. It doesn't allow us to apply to any other private universities EA or ED. And only EA to public universities.

So he has two EAs with 11/1 deadlines and the rest are RD.

Is this typical? DS's school doesn't have any such restrictions.

I know that it's true for Princeton (and other restrictive early action schools) and our school counselors enforce it (you can only apply to other publics EA; no ED at any school and no EA at any other privates) It sounds like a lot of people here cheat the system. So, for instance, you could not apply REA to Princeton and EA to Georgetown, but you could REA to Princeton and EA UVA.

Can someone post a screenshot of what it looks like? I still cannot find it but I think maybe my private school has deactivated the feature

The Pitt numbers increased on Sunday evening for our school so I’m guessing it’s actual applications unless staff at the HS was working on Sunday. It wasn’t immediate though- has to be at least a couple hours lag.

I feel like some large publics automatically load data into Naviance whereas small private schools are manually entered. I’m guessing this because UMD admissions immediately all show when they happen whereas most schools seem to lag until manual entry of kids’ paper forms. Can anyone confirm?

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Anonymous wrote:In Naviance above the scattergrams there are bars that show how many students have applied each year.

Thank you for this! I had no idea of this feature. I'm surprised at the number of applications already submitted. Was I just naive and thought most of the applications would have been submitted closer to 11/1?

This is the question we’re discussing in this thread—is it actually applications submitted or something else related to transcript requests or other counselor work?

I’ve looked at this more closely and found that my kid’s counselor has submitted transcripts and the counselor recommendation to all nine of my kid’s schools; this is viewable in Naviance. My kid has officially submitted two applications, both to EA schools that show multiple applicants for 2024. But when I look at my kid’s other schools, some show 2024 applicants and some don’t. This is what leads me to believe the bar chart is showing actual applicants rather than transcript requests—kid’s transcripts have been sent everywhere, so if the bar chart was reflecting transcript requests or submission, it would show applicants for every school kid is applying to.

But the numbers of applicants for schools with ED (not EA) seem unbelievable. So I’m not sure what to think.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid’s MCPS high school is at around 70 today in Naviance for UMD but I am sure more than twice that number will apply. The school requires a month before sending a transcript.

My kid here in VA had a meltdown last night because she just discovered the 30 day transcript deadlines. She was trying to get her common app done for all the places she is applying, and several of them suggest Nov 1.

I was able to talk her down because many of her schools are basically rolling and the deadlines are somewhat squishy. Her favorite has 2 EA dates, and there is some leeway on getting the official docs in. Another of her favorites sent mail a week or so ago saying they don’t even need official transcripts for her application to be complete.

Did they not warn you about the deadline? At our school they warned us at all of the college night events.

I would guess the high schools might still send out in time and I’d still give it a shot. Plus there is some wiggle room often for school-sent materials. My guess is the deadline is to ensure the entire senior class doesn’t wait until Oct. 31 to send in their Nov 1 deadline transcript requests. I imagine a lot of kids not only miss the deadline inadvertently but also change their minds on ED or add an EA school, etc.

I'm going to be honest - I haven't gone to any of the recent college prep crap at the school. The info isn't geared towards kids like my daughter. Not to mention that this time of year is completely insane for me workwise AND we all keep getting ill. I have managed to get her to several school visits in the middle of the chaos. Most of the schools she is applying to aren't on ANYONE'S radar here, so Naviance is useless to us. Daughter probably got this info through her classes and just didn't store it in her memory bank. Again, many of them are rolling admission, so the deadline isn't that big a deal.

Here is the info on her top choice school's website:
"Those applying by November 1 should submit all required application materials (transcripts, recommendations, etc.) by November 20 for a decision by December 15.
Those applying by December 1 should submit all required application materials (transcripts, recommendations, etc.) by December 20 for a decision by January 15."

I mean, worst case scenario, she goes into the Dec 1 pile and hears in mid-Jan rather than mid-Dec. She already knows she has been placed in the performing arts program she wants (she is planning to double major there), so this is just the academic admission part.

Anonymous wrote:In Naviance above the scattergrams there are bars that show how many students have applied each year.

Thank you for this! I had no idea of this feature. I'm surprised at the number of applications already submitted. Was I just naive and thought most of the applications would have been submitted closer to 11/1?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid’s MCPS high school is at around 70 today in Naviance for UMD but I am sure more than twice that number will apply. The school requires a month before sending a transcript.

My kid here in VA had a meltdown last night because she just discovered the 30 day transcript deadlines. She was trying to get her common app done for all the places she is applying, and several of them suggest Nov 1.

I was able to talk her down because many of her schools are basically rolling and the deadlines are somewhat squishy. Her favorite has 2 EA dates, and there is some leeway on getting the official docs in. Another of her favorites sent mail a week or so ago saying they don’t even need official transcripts for her application to be complete.

Did they not warn you about the deadline? At our school they warned us at all of the college night events.

I would guess the high schools might still send out in time and I’d still give it a shot. Plus there is some wiggle room often for school-sent materials. My guess is the deadline is to ensure the entire senior class doesn’t wait until Oct. 31 to send in their Nov 1 deadline transcript requests. I imagine a lot of kids not only miss the deadline inadvertently but also change their minds on ED or add an EA school, etc.

Penn

Duke
NYU
Northeastern

Only know my kid. WM and Vasser. Has not decided which isnED1 and which is ED2 yeast.

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Anonymous wrote:Aside from FA, why would anyone not apply to their reach ED? Seems like chance of acceptance is much higher, so maybe the best way to approach a reach. Are college counselors not promoting this? (DC is a sophomore so I am not dealing with them much yet). Thanks

DS's top choice only has EA, that's why.

Same. It doesn't allow us to apply to any other private universities EA or ED. And only EA to public universities.

So he has two EAs with 11/1 deadlines and the rest are RD.

Is this typical? DS's school doesn't have any such restrictions.

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Anonymous wrote:Aside from FA, why would anyone not apply to their reach ED? Seems like chance of acceptance is much higher, so maybe the best way to approach a reach. Are college counselors not promoting this? (DC is a sophomore so I am not dealing with them much yet). Thanks

DS's top choice only has EA, that's why.

Same. It doesn't allow us to apply to any other private universities EA or ED. And only EA to public universities.

So he has two EAs with 11/1 deadlines and the rest are RD.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, that's not something I'd overly talk about if I were them. No one should want their ED school to become a fad amongst their peer group (obviously the usual suspects are always popular for ED and REA applications, but still). It's sad, but a kid's first layer of competition is their peer group so I feel for that school with 11 kids EDing to Brown. Unless Brown is known for taking close to that many applicants from one high school that is why private school counselors will try to steer kids to other institutions, particularly if they have a sense that your kid isn't one of the X who is likely to be accepted.

Based on current Naviance numbers, looks like 20+ (including my kid) will apply ED to Brown from our big public school. Historically, about 10% from our school get in (overall, not just ED). It’s just a popular school. Nothing much to be done about it.

The Naviance numbers are the number of kids who requested a transcript be sent and not the number who have applied. So you don’t know how many of those ED vs RD

I don’t think this is right, at least not at my kid’s school. My kid has requested transcripts for nine schools, but only some of them show any 2024 applicants in Naviance. And the number is currently ticking up by the day, which leads me to conclude it’s reflecting submitted applications—or maybe some action taken by the guidance counselor on applications.

And while it doesn’t say ED vs RD, the numbers have started going up in the last week or so, which seems likely to be related to the Nov. 1 ED deadline.

It’s either requested transcripts or submitted, not sure. Either way it’s not ED. I know last year the school my DC applied ED to showed almost 50 applicants at the ED date. DC asked counselor, who said I think 8 or 9 applied ED.

Hmm. Still trying to figure out…

…if it’s requested, why wouldn’t Naviance show applicants for all nine of the schools where my kid requested transcripts; and
…if it’s submitted, why would counselors be submitting now if not to meet ED deadlines?

I also know Naviance configuration varies by school, so it’s possible that’s what’s going on.

So weird. Our MCPS school has no 2024 data in Naviance. It also says that nothing has happened on transcript requests sent in September! Career center assured kid that they would be sent in time, but one school is rolling and app was submitted in Sept. Really disappointed in the career counselor. There is not much communication. Good thing kid's main counselor is responsive.