Anonymous
10/13/2023 04:50
Subject: B student
Please tell me you are joking. Most kids are “B” students. All colleges look at the “whole” student-activities, jobs, sports-not just grades!!!
Anonymous wrote:My daughter is a B student. She floats between a 2.9 and a 3.1. She works hard for those grades and is bright but somehow never gets As. She is currently a sophomore. When I was younger, plenty of schools opened doors to B students. All the literature I'm reading makes me think things have changed. Are there very few schools that will take her with that type of GPA? She will be test optional as well. She is at a vigorous high school and there is no grade equity and she has to earn those grades. Does any school care about a B student who works hard?
Anonymous
10/12/2023 23:37
Subject: Re:B student
Anonymous wrote:Why not at least have him try and actually apply to some of these schools? “We are being told” does not mean he won’t get in or possibly get in off waitlist.Anonymous wrote:OP, I will just share my experience.
My son has 3.4. So basically B plus and shade below A minus.
He didn’t take many honors and APs
I assumed a B plus would be find. ESP for big state school which is what he wants.
Unfortunately not the case. Totally dismayed at the number of state schools that I thought were safeties that we are being told he probably won’t be excepted at. And his ACT score was fine and equivalent to what a B plus student would be.
So maybe share the stats with your DD now so she gets it. And start managing expectations. Many many good schools that will take her as other have mentioned. But not the ones you probably thought would.
Sigh. Yes it really makes us frustrated with our private school and it tough grading system.
+100 High school counselors are often managing expectations. They are only colllege seniors once. Make sure you have several 'safeties' that they would be willing to attend, but go ahead and throw your hat in the ring to some dream schools.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 23:25
Subject: Re:B student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, I will just share my experience.
My son has 3.4. So basically B plus and shade below A minus.
He didn’t take many honors and APs
I assumed a B plus would be find. ESP for big state school which is what he wants.
Unfortunately not the case. Totally dismayed at the number of state schools that I thought were safeties that we are being told he probably won’t be excepted at. And his ACT score was fine and equivalent to what a B plus student would be.
So maybe share the stats with your DD now so she gets it. And start managing expectations. Many many good schools that will take her as other have mentioned. But not the ones you probably thought would.
Sigh. Yes it really makes us frustrated with our private school and it tough grading system.
what school is this? A DC Big3?
DC Top 5
If your kid is at a DC top 5, I would recommend including a few private reach schools on the list - especially if your chid can apply ED and especially if your kid can get some high test scores. Try both the ACT and the SAT. For a full pay private school kid, I would also consider Trinity, Connecticut College, Lewis & Clark. I would also try to leverage gender and/ or geography: I would look at LACs for a boy and maybe avoid them and look at more techy schools for a girl (schools like RIT).
Anonymous
10/12/2023 23:19
Subject: B student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’d look at Arizona State, University of Arizona, University of Kansas, University of Oregon. For smaller schools Loyola (Chicago and New Orleans), Wilamette, Muhlenberg
Random schools pulled out of your a$$
Actually, that's a good list. In my family, B kids were accepted at the Arizona universities, Indiana, FSU and U of Cincinnati. Among friends, there have been admissions at Temple, Kansas, College of Charleston, Rollins, FAU, Goucher. I also know some kids who went to U of Iowa, Northern Iowa and Nebraska - and I think they were all B students.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 22:38
Subject: Re:B student
Why not at least have him try and actually apply to some of these schools? “We are being told” does not mean he won’t get in or possibly get in off waitlist.Anonymous wrote:OP, I will just share my experience.
My son has 3.4. So basically B plus and shade below A minus.
He didn’t take many honors and APs
I assumed a B plus would be find. ESP for big state school which is what he wants.
Unfortunately not the case. Totally dismayed at the number of state schools that I thought were safeties that we are being told he probably won’t be excepted at. And his ACT score was fine and equivalent to what a B plus student would be.
So maybe share the stats with your DD now so she gets it. And start managing expectations. Many many good schools that will take her as other have mentioned. But not the ones you probably thought would.
Sigh. Yes it really makes us frustrated with our private school and it tough grading system.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 21:55
Subject: Re:B student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, I will just share my experience.
My son has 3.4. So basically B plus and shade below A minus.
He didn’t take many honors and APs
I assumed a B plus would be find. ESP for big state school which is what he wants.
Unfortunately not the case. Totally dismayed at the number of state schools that I thought were safeties that we are being told he probably won’t be excepted at. And his ACT score was fine and equivalent to what a B plus student would be.
So maybe share the stats with your DD now so she gets it. And start managing expectations. Many many good schools that will take her as other have mentioned. But not the ones you probably thought would.
Sigh. Yes it really makes us frustrated with our private school and it tough grading system.
which schools are these?
Thank you--my kid is similar.
PSU, Ohio, Clemson, TN, Auburn, South Carolina and similar.
No, I was not told they are safeties. That was my assumption before going into the college process. That is what I am trying to convey to the OP, who is not yet in the process.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 21:51
Subject: Re:B student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, I will just share my experience.
My son has 3.4. So basically B plus and shade below A minus.
He didn’t take many honors and APs
I assumed a B plus would be find. ESP for big state school which is what he wants.
Unfortunately not the case. Totally dismayed at the number of state schools that I thought were safeties that we are being told he probably won’t be excepted at. And his ACT score was fine and equivalent to what a B plus student would be.
So maybe share the stats with your DD now so she gets it. And start managing expectations. Many many good schools that will take her as other have mentioned. But not the ones you probably thought would.
Sigh. Yes it really makes us frustrated with our private school and it tough grading system.
what school is this? A DC Big3?
DC Top 5
Anonymous
10/12/2023 21:37
Subject: B student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Below T100. Or community college.
Honestly, with the cost college these days, even to T100 below, I'm thinking my solid B student DC go the community college route.
Mistake! C student, sure. B student? No way.
why not? College costs are stupidly high. I am not paying up the nose for a T100 and below college. I'm not even sure I want to for a t75 below.
You are paying too much attention to rankings--the educational quality and career outcomes don't differ that much--rankings make you think there are meaningful differences when there are not. It's the student and the major more than the institution.
I know. PP had really fallen for the USNWR hype.
College is for your child, not what others think about how prestigious others think their education was.
college is for my child in order to get a good paying job. Why would I spend $320K+ on a subpar college education to get a job that tops out at $75K/yr. That's a terrible ROI.
There's nothing wrong with 2 yrs at community college,, then transfer to a good college, especially for those who aren't sure what they want to major in.
Oh, you see it as vocational school.
Some of us think of it as an educational institution. A bridge from adolescence to adulthood, where much if the learning takes place outside of the classroom.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 21:33
Subject: Re:B student
Anonymous wrote:OP, I will just share my experience.
My son has 3.4. So basically B plus and shade below A minus.
He didn’t take many honors and APs
I assumed a B plus would be find. ESP for big state school which is what he wants.
Unfortunately not the case. Totally dismayed at the number of state schools that I thought were safeties that we are being told he probably won’t be excepted at. And his ACT score was fine and equivalent to what a B plus student would be.
So maybe share the stats with your DD now so she gets it. And start managing expectations. Many many good schools that will take her as other have mentioned. But not the ones you probably thought would.
Sigh. Yes it really makes us frustrated with our private school and it tough grading system.
I also want to know. If you were applying to flagships - Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin - then you got bad advice. But, if your kid applied to the second-tier or regional publics and still didn’t get it, now that IS surprising and I can imagine the frustration!
Anonymous
10/12/2023 21:20
Subject: Re:B student
Anonymous wrote:OP, I will just share my experience.
My son has 3.4. So basically B plus and shade below A minus.
He didn’t take many honors and APs
I assumed a B plus would be find. ESP for big state school which is what he wants.
Unfortunately not the case. Totally dismayed at the number of state schools that I thought were safeties that we are being told he probably won’t be excepted at. And his ACT score was fine and equivalent to what a B plus student would be.
So maybe share the stats with your DD now so she gets it. And start managing expectations. Many many good schools that will take her as other have mentioned. But not the ones you probably thought would.
Sigh. Yes it really makes us frustrated with our private school and it tough grading system.
which schools are these?
Thank you--my kid is similar.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 21:13
Subject: Re:B student
Anonymous wrote:OP, I will just share my experience.
My son has 3.4. So basically B plus and shade below A minus.
He didn’t take many honors and APs
I assumed a B plus would be find. ESP for big state school which is what he wants.
Unfortunately not the case. Totally dismayed at the number of state schools that I thought were safeties that we are being told he probably won’t be excepted at. And his ACT score was fine and equivalent to what a B plus student would be.
So maybe share the stats with your DD now so she gets it. And start managing expectations. Many many good schools that will take her as other have mentioned. But not the ones you probably thought would.
Sigh. Yes it really makes us frustrated with our private school and it tough grading system.
what school is this? A DC Big3?
Anonymous
10/12/2023 21:10
Subject: Re:B student
OP, I will just share my experience.
My son has 3.4. So basically B plus and shade below A minus.
He didn’t take many honors and APs
I assumed a B plus would be find. ESP for big state school which is what he wants.
Unfortunately not the case. Totally dismayed at the number of state schools that I thought were safeties that we are being told he probably won’t be excepted at. And his ACT score was fine and equivalent to what a B plus student would be.
So maybe share the stats with your DD now so she gets it. And start managing expectations. Many many good schools that will take her as other have mentioned. But not the ones you probably thought would.
Sigh. Yes it really makes us frustrated with our private school and it tough grading system.
My son has 3.4. So basically B plus and shade below A minus.
He didn’t take many honors and APs
I assumed a B plus would be find. ESP for big state school which is what he wants.
Unfortunately not the case. Totally dismayed at the number of state schools that I thought were safeties that we are being told he probably won’t be excepted at. And his ACT score was fine and equivalent to what a B plus student would be.
So maybe share the stats with your DD now so she gets it. And start managing expectations. Many many good schools that will take her as other have mentioned. But not the ones you probably thought would.
Sigh. Yes it really makes us frustrated with our private school and it tough grading system.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 20:16
Subject: B student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Below T100. Or community college.
Honestly, with the cost college these days, even to T100 below, I'm thinking my solid B student DC go the community college route.
Mistake! C student, sure. B student? No way.
why not? College costs are stupidly high. I am not paying up the nose for a T100 and below college. I'm not even sure I want to for a t75 below.
You are paying too much attention to rankings--the educational quality and career outcomes don't differ that much--rankings make you think there are meaningful differences when there are not. It's the student and the major more than the institution.
I know. PP had really fallen for the USNWR hype.
College is for your child, not what others think about how prestigious others think their education was.
college is for my child in order to get a good paying job. Why would I spend $320K+ on a subpar college education to get a job that tops out at $75K/yr. That's a terrible ROI.
There's nothing wrong with 2 yrs at community college,, then transfer to a good college, especially for those who aren't sure what they want to major in.
Why don't you look at actual ROI? These "subpar" colleges often have very similar career outcomes to good ones. And can cost quite a bit less with merit aid. There's nothing wrong with community college, but it has its downfalls and there's a pretty good chance your B student is not going to get into what you see as a "good" college because it's a hard path to meet the transfer requirements and they didn't yet excel in high school. You seem kind of pigheaded and certain in your beliefs without digging into the actual data.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 20:05
Subject: B student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Below T100. Or community college.
Honestly, with the cost college these days, even to T100 below, I'm thinking my solid B student DC go the community college route.
Mistake! C student, sure. B student? No way.
why not? College costs are stupidly high. I am not paying up the nose for a T100 and below college. I'm not even sure I want to for a t75 below.
You are paying too much attention to rankings--the educational quality and career outcomes don't differ that much--rankings make you think there are meaningful differences when there are not. It's the student and the major more than the institution.
I know. PP had really fallen for the USNWR hype.
College is for your child, not what others think about how prestigious others think their education was.
college is for my child in order to get a good paying job. Why would I spend $320K+ on a subpar college education to get a job that tops out at $75K/yr. That's a terrible ROI.
There's nothing wrong with 2 yrs at community college,, then transfer to a good college, especially for those who aren't sure what they want to major in.
Anonymous
10/12/2023 19:58
Subject: B student
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’d look at Arizona State, University of Arizona, University of Kansas, University of Oregon. For smaller schools Loyola (Chicago and New Orleans), Wilamette, Muhlenberg
Random schools pulled out of your a$$
You’re very helpful