Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 08:05     Subject: Covid. The big shift
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have no issue with government or institutions. They did the best they could with the information that they had and I doubt most or any of you could have done better.

I am sincerely affected in how I view my fellow Americans. The selfish disdain for others. The ignorance. Questioning experts based on their keyboard searches. I have little faith in people, their community concern, their kindness. And this manifests itself more and more every day, since COVID.



I’m affected by realizing how weak and neurotic so many of my fellow Americans are.


Media scare tactics + social media + loneliness epidemic have made people so vulnerable. Everyone just doom scrolling their days away, with the messaging perfectly curated to stoke their deepest fears and anxieties.


Yes. I am a regular NY Times and Wash Post reader and it is insane how much it’s curated to make people feel scared and panicked. They did it all through covid and now they’ve moved on to climate change. Steady drumbeat of doomsday messaging.

I’m not suggesting covid and climate change aren’t real. Both very much are. But when you take even a a slight step back it’s pretty easy to to see how the left is being force fed this very neurotic and anxiety-provoking view of the world.

Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 08:00     Subject: Re:Covid. The big shift
People forget how many people died or suffered long term health issues prior to the vaccine. I know some of those people and they weren’t all old or overweight. I think once the vaccine was widely available there should have been a greater push to get life back to normal.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 07:55     Subject: Covid. The big shift
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have no issue with government or institutions. They did the best they could with the information that they had and I doubt most or any of you could have done better.

I am sincerely affected in how I view my fellow Americans. The selfish disdain for others. The ignorance. Questioning experts based on their keyboard searches. I have little faith in people, their community concern, their kindness. And this manifests itself more and more every day, since COVID.



I’m affected by realizing how weak and neurotic so many of my fellow Americans are.


Media scare tactics + social media + loneliness epidemic have made people so vulnerable. Everyone just doom scrolling their days away, with the messaging perfectly curated to stoke their deepest fears and anxieties.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 02:19     Subject: Covid. The big shift
Anonymous wrote:One thing that I found so disheartening during Covid was how disconnected people were about their privilege during that time. Being able to do home deliveries for groceries, stocking up on supplies (which requires having that extra money to spend), being able to help their kids with homeschooling even if it was subpar, still having a job, etc.




There was no real need to have things delivered - the dangers of going to the store were way overblown.
Stocking up on supplies? I don’t really remember going for weeks without essentials.
The whole homeschooling thing was also the result of things blown out of proportion and one group taking advantage of everyone else.
People got a lot of money in unemployment and small business grants.
Don’t try to blame it all on some mythical privilege
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 02:10     Subject: Covid. The big shift
One thing that I found so disheartening during Covid was how disconnected people were about their privilege during that time. Being able to do home deliveries for groceries, stocking up on supplies (which requires having that extra money to spend), being able to help their kids with homeschooling even if it was subpar, still having a job, etc.


Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 01:45     Subject: Covid. The big shift
I guess my main takeaway is disappointment.
So much of what’s going on is performative.
People who don’t think critically but blindly follow the guidance. Rules that are never enforced. Oppression of the weak. People one can never be open with.
I am just so jaded by now.
Anonymous
Post 10/10/2023 00:32     Subject: Covid. The big shift
Anonymous wrote:I was charge on one of the Covid units. I've learned to be more assertive, trust my instinct more, and advocate harder. By the end, I was scarily accurate on predicting patient outcomes and figuring out what they needed.

I'm sure there negatives to what I went through, but I learned long ago to only concentrate on the positives

Thank you for your service.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 23:24     Subject: Covid. The big shift
Anonymous wrote:I work in education and people who came of age and were still in K-12 or college during COVID are developmentally stunted. They don't seem to have coping or problem solving skills and ignore deadlines and have trouble taking initiative.


Agreed. The discipline issues are out of control and parents along with students now view everything as optional. Teachers are monsters for expecting students to do their work and coaches are villains for expecting athletes to attend practice.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 23:05     Subject: Covid. The big shift
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have no issue with government or institutions. They did the best they could with the information that they had and I doubt most or any of you could have done better.

I am sincerely affected in how I view my fellow Americans. The selfish disdain for others. The ignorance. Questioning experts based on their keyboard searches. I have little faith in people, their community concern, their kindness. And this manifests itself more and more every day, since COVID.



I’m affected by realizing how weak and neurotic so many of my fellow Americans are.


100% This.

OMG, so perfectly put. I had no idea there were so many fearful, paranoid, and gullible people. It was really disappointing.

The west is almost too cowardly to deserve to live.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 22:23     Subject: Re:Covid. The big shift
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder if folks who feel some big shift have kids?

I have two in school and it’s like it never happened, thank god. I work in an in-person job which I prefer. Grateful I didn’t have an industry that stuck with remote work as I found it depressing and isolating. My spouse does have some lingering covid issues but they’re managed.

It feels like a distant haze and I guarantee you kids and teens never ever think about it and didn’t feel some big shift to them.


The shift isn't just thinking about the virus. My kids have been back to school and normal activities since 2021. It's the subtle shifts that were caused in society that we still haven't even felt the full impact of. For example, increased WFH, supply shortages and financial changes that led to inflation, people dropping out of the workforce (and now lack of workers in the service sector and healthcare), lack of trust in government, increased hostility, children who haven't ever recovered from the learning loss.


All of this. Virtual school hit in mid elementary and middle school for my kids in dcps and lasted far too long. It was a depressing time and hard to distract them. I missed visiting a dying parent. So many others had it far worse.

While I appreciate work from home as a late 40s mom, I feel for the twentysomethings who’ll miss the social aspects of working in person, dating, crushes, happy hrs. It feels like a relic from The Office, but was one of the best chapters of my life (despite difficult bosses, low pay, etc.)
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 22:20     Subject: Covid. The big shift
Anonymous wrote:I have no issue with government or institutions. They did the best they could with the information that they had and I doubt most or any of you could have done better.

I am sincerely affected in how I view my fellow Americans. The selfish disdain for others. The ignorance. Questioning experts based on their keyboard searches. I have little faith in people, their community concern, their kindness. And this manifests itself more and more every day, since COVID.



I’m affected by realizing how weak and neurotic so many of my fellow Americans are.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 22:16     Subject: Re:Covid. The big shift
Anonymous wrote:I wonder if folks who feel some big shift have kids?

I have two in school and it’s like it never happened, thank god. I work in an in-person job which I prefer. Grateful I didn’t have an industry that stuck with remote work as I found it depressing and isolating. My spouse does have some lingering covid issues but they’re managed.

It feels like a distant haze and I guarantee you kids and teens never ever think about it and didn’t feel some big shift to them.

Except for the kids who had a remote senior year of high school or first year of college. They think about it, it was a big shift for them. I've talked to my nieces about it, and yes, everything is back to normal, but it's not something they'll ever forget.

I have younger children and I am still (two years after being back in school) seeing the pandemic learning loss in my older child. She's slowly catching back up, but it's taken thousands of dollars in tutoring and a lot of hard work. She remembers remote school, she remembers being lonely, she and her friends still joke about some of the crazy things that happened that year.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 22:11     Subject: Covid. The big shift
I have no issue with government or institutions. They did the best they could with the information that they had and I doubt most or any of you could have done better.

I am sincerely affected in how I view my fellow Americans. The selfish disdain for others. The ignorance. Questioning experts based on their keyboard searches. I have little faith in people, their community concern, their kindness. And this manifests itself more and more every day, since COVID.

Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 22:08     Subject: Re:Covid. The big shift
Anonymous wrote:I lost confidence in the political system as both parties weaponized COVID for political gains. I also lost full confidence in CDC to be honest and trustworthy, especially with the recent information about a certain head of the CDC. I watched major news organizations censor and shut down discussions on the origin of the virus and any dissenting views on the appropriateness of the COVID responses. I watched the reaction and counterreaction from fools who refused to take a vaccine despite being a high risk demographic and I watched a major presidential candidate diss the vaccine and called it untrustworthy because it'd been released under a different president. So the whole COVID episode left me deeply jaded about the sincerity of so many values about honesty, trustworthy, the truth, freedom of press and willingness to investigate, and attitudes of the political classes.


SO true! All of it
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 21:59     Subject: Re:Covid. The big shift
Seriously people, stop feeding the troll living under a rock.