Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 21:31     Subject: Re:Recruited athletes don’t have lower stats!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A coach for one of the Ivies was scouting at a lacrosse tournament and told the kids they needed a 3.8. He certainly didn’t guarantee they would be admitted, but suggested the standards were much easier for recruits.


The coaches say that to compete for the best players. Those kids don't necessarily make it through admissions pre-read, just like PP's earlier story about her kid who didn't get into top ten SLAC despite coach's assurances.


I don’t know what you think a “pre-read” is for an Ivy school. Coach decides he wants you…you show a transcript (somewhat rigorous) that is 3.8…say a 1400 SAT…great you meet the stats and gets quick sign off from admissions. That’s it. Hard to call that a pre-read.


A) We're not talking about Ivys, and B) I don't think you know what a pre-read is for highly ranked SLACs.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 21:27     Subject: Re:Recruited athletes don’t have lower stats!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They need the minimum with can be very high for some schools.


Big fat bull! Penn recruited a baseball player with ACT of 30. The coach told him an ACT of 28 is necessary. Not last year.


Any reason to say “not last year”. Just wondering the significance.

Because that particular example isn’t from last year but from a recent past to be relevant here.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 21:14     Subject: Re:Recruited athletes don’t have lower stats!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They need the minimum with can be very high for some schools.


Big fat bull! Penn recruited a baseball player with ACT of 30. The coach told him an ACT of 28 is necessary. Not last year.


Any reason to say “not last year”. Just wondering the significance.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 21:11     Subject: Re:Recruited athletes don’t have lower stats!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A coach for one of the Ivies was scouting at a lacrosse tournament and told the kids they needed a 3.8. He certainly didn’t guarantee they would be admitted, but suggested the standards were much easier for recruits.


The coaches say that to compete for the best players. Those kids don't necessarily make it through admissions pre-read, just like PP's earlier story about her kid who didn't get into top ten SLAC despite coach's assurances.


I don’t know what you think a “pre-read” is for an Ivy school. Coach decides he wants you…you show a transcript (somewhat rigorous) that is 3.8…say a 1400 SAT…great you meet the stats and gets quick sign off from admissions. That’s it. Hard to call that a pre-read.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 21:04     Subject: Re:Recruited athletes don’t have lower stats!
Anonymous wrote:They need the minimum with can be very high for some schools.


Big fat bull! Penn recruited a baseball player with ACT of 30. The coach told him an ACT of 28 is necessary. Not last year.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 21:03     Subject: Re:Recruited athletes don’t have lower stats!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My DS did not get through a pre-read at a top ten SLAC. We weren't surprised at all. My DS was not targeting this school at all because he didn't have the rigor or grades. My DS is not a "dumb jock" but he's also not a A+ 1500 SAT student. He had an A- in high school and a 1300 SAT. The coach at this SLAC reached out to my DS after he saw him at a showcase. My DH and I talked to the coach and the first thing we asked him was "have you seen his grades?" He assured us he had pull and felt confident he could get our DS through admissions. DS sent in his transcript for the pre-read and as we expected, admissions said no. So for this particular school and sport, recruited athletes don't have lower stats.


PP, would you mind sharing where your DS ended up playing (if he did)?


My DS is at a D3 and playing his sport. I don’t want to name the school. It is ranked in the mid 100s in national universities and most students had similar high school profiles: B+/A- students. It’s a great academic, social and athletic fit for my DS and he received a very generous merit aid package.


Thanks for sharing, PP. Glad to hear it's a great fit. By the way, your DS with his 1300 SAT and A- GPA is no slouch! Just goes to show how competitive admissions are, even for recruited athletes!
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 20:59     Subject: Re:Recruited athletes don’t have lower stats!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My DS did not get through a pre-read at a top ten SLAC. We weren't surprised at all. My DS was not targeting this school at all because he didn't have the rigor or grades. My DS is not a "dumb jock" but he's also not a A+ 1500 SAT student. He had an A- in high school and a 1300 SAT. The coach at this SLAC reached out to my DS after he saw him at a showcase. My DH and I talked to the coach and the first thing we asked him was "have you seen his grades?" He assured us he had pull and felt confident he could get our DS through admissions. DS sent in his transcript for the pre-read and as we expected, admissions said no. So for this particular school and sport, recruited athletes don't have lower stats.


PP, would you mind sharing where your DS ended up playing (if he did)?


My DS is at a D3 and playing his sport. I don’t want to name the school. It is ranked in the mid 100s in national universities and most students had similar high school profiles: B+/A- students. It’s a great academic, social and athletic fit for my DS and he received a very generous merit aid package.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 20:59     Subject: Re:Recruited athletes don’t have lower stats!
Anonymous wrote:A coach for one of the Ivies was scouting at a lacrosse tournament and told the kids they needed a 3.8. He certainly didn’t guarantee they would be admitted, but suggested the standards were much easier for recruits.


The coaches say that to compete for the best players. Those kids don't necessarily make it through admissions pre-read, just like PP's earlier story about her kid who didn't get into top ten SLAC despite coach's assurances.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 20:48     Subject: Re:Recruited athletes don’t have lower stats!
A coach for one of the Ivies was scouting at a lacrosse tournament and told the kids they needed a 3.8. He certainly didn’t guarantee they would be admitted, but suggested the standards were much easier for recruits.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 20:40     Subject: Recruited athletes don’t have lower stats!
Do you know if likely letters to recruits have been sent out yet for the 2024s?
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 20:28     Subject: Re:Recruited athletes don’t have lower stats!
Anonymous wrote:My DS did not get through a pre-read at a top ten SLAC. We weren't surprised at all. My DS was not targeting this school at all because he didn't have the rigor or grades. My DS is not a "dumb jock" but he's also not a A+ 1500 SAT student. He had an A- in high school and a 1300 SAT. The coach at this SLAC reached out to my DS after he saw him at a showcase. My DH and I talked to the coach and the first thing we asked him was "have you seen his grades?" He assured us he had pull and felt confident he could get our DS through admissions. DS sent in his transcript for the pre-read and as we expected, admissions said no. So for this particular school and sport, recruited athletes don't have lower stats.


This sounds like stories we've heard. The average SAT at a top SLAC is almost 200 points higher - Williams is 1479. DD's friend was being recruited by a top Ivy and she kept taking the SAT in order to hit 1400 something. They actually gave her a target number.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 20:07     Subject: Recruited athletes don’t have lower stats!
It’s my kid…not I know a kid. Ivy schools are D1 and it is far more straightforward sports recruiting compared to selective SLACs.

^^^Exactly this! There are very few slots for athletes that fall on the lower end of the recruiting bands.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 20:01     Subject: Re:Recruited athletes don’t have lower stats!
Incorrect. An athlete on our team was looking at Pitt as the top choice based on grades and ability. Ability shot through the roof and UVA came knocking. Grades are the same.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 19:57     Subject: Recruited athletes don’t have lower stats!
Many universities have majors where football players gravitate to (usually communications, sociology or business).

And there's huge pressure to get these kids through because of the dollars at stake.
Anonymous
Post 10/09/2023 19:57     Subject: Recruited athletes don’t have lower stats!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The jealousy that nerdy kids and parents on DCUM have towards athletes is really funny.


The only thing that is funny is how desperate athlete parents are to convince us either that (a) our kids aren’t stupid or (b) if they are it’s because they spend oh so many hours in practice.

Just own it. Your kid is less qualified academically but the school took them to fill a need. But don’t harp on first gen, legacy or other hooks while you do it. Then you’re both desperate and a hypocrite.


If you’re an athlete, you must be less qualified academically? That’s bold, PP. Ever think that some kids are just good at everything? Super smart, good looking, athletic, sociable, kids do exist.


Keep on dreaming, Mom. Your kid is in because of a hook.


I’m not dreaming because I don’t have an athlete kid. I just know kids who are incredibly talented both athletically and academically. Not my kids, but others. No need to be bitter or jealous about it.