Anonymous
10/11/2023 18:11
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am wondering if he found the cheat sheet AND the kids’ responses on the test make it clear most of them used it. I could see that being grounds for a 0 as a threat but ultimately the most he will be able to do per the grading policy is give them all a retake (and he will definitely make it harder) and if he finds out who the instigator was, the original 0 for that kid stands and the retake goes in as well, which means even if the kid gets a 100 on the retake it’ll average to a 50. (That is the official policy for handling academic dishonesty.)
-LCPS teacher
My child tends to get 100s on math tests even in high school. So her having a perfect score would indicate nothing. I would be IRATE if she were accused of cheating based upon this and no other evidence. I'm also well-versed in the LCPS grading policy and not a doormat, so this is unlikely to happen to us.
Ok thank you for sharing your super specific situation that has nothing to do with this thread
Anonymous
10/11/2023 17:36
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Team teacher.
Old school values.
Old school values.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 17:31
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I love that teacher. How refreshing.
If the teacher goes through with the threat, they deserve to be fired and sued if any of those grade effect transcripts
If a class of students stands behind a cheater, they deserve to have it affect their transcripts. Academic integrity matters. We need more adults who advance because of their integrity. Lyign and cheating is ruining our world.
Why do you assume anyone knows who the cheater is?
Did you attend high school? Everyone knows who the cheater is.
I never knew. I have Aspergers and stayed in my lane because I didn't know how not to.
I don’t have Asperger’s and I never knew either. I wasn’t cool enough to know those things.
Pretty common!
Anonymous
10/11/2023 17:31
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I love that teacher. How refreshing.
If the teacher goes through with the threat, they deserve to be fired and sued if any of those grade effect transcripts
If a class of students stands behind a cheater, they deserve to have it affect their transcripts. Academic integrity matters. We need more adults who advance because of their integrity. Lyign and cheating is ruining our world.
Why do you assume anyone knows who the cheater is?
Did you attend high school? Everyone knows who the cheater is.
I never knew. I have Aspergers and stayed in my lane because I didn't know how not to.
I don’t have Asperger’s and I never knew either. I wasn’t cool enough to know those things.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 17:29
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Anonymous wrote:It's like none of you are familiar with honor codes...
It's never honorable to punish the innocent.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 17:28
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I love that teacher. How refreshing.
If the teacher goes through with the threat, they deserve to be fired and sued if any of those grade effect transcripts
If a class of students stands behind a cheater, they deserve to have it affect their transcripts. Academic integrity matters. We need more adults who advance because of their integrity. Lyign and cheating is ruining our world.
Why do you assume anyone knows who the cheater is?
Did you attend high school? Everyone knows who the cheater is.
I never knew. I have Aspergers and stayed in my lane because I didn't know how not to.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 17:27
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
I would let it play out before doing anything since the teacher is likely bluffing.
I would also tell your kid this is not right and you will back her up if the need arises but that sometimes people get angry and their first reaction isn’t their finest, and it can help to give space for them to work through it. Have her imagine how the teacher is feeling after working to educate the class and then seeing their hard work is not met with integrity.
If the teacher does follow through (unlikely) then make a game plan together.
In other words coach empathy and conflict resolution.
I would also tell your kid this is not right and you will back her up if the need arises but that sometimes people get angry and their first reaction isn’t their finest, and it can help to give space for them to work through it. Have her imagine how the teacher is feeling after working to educate the class and then seeing their hard work is not met with integrity.
If the teacher does follow through (unlikely) then make a game plan together.
In other words coach empathy and conflict resolution.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 17:23
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Anonymous wrote:😂Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I love that teacher. How refreshing.
If the teacher goes through with the threat, they deserve to be fired and sued if any of those grade effect transcripts
Spoiler: the plaintiff will end up being the cheater’s family
Anonymous
10/11/2023 17:21
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
It's like none of you are familiar with honor codes...
Anonymous
10/11/2023 17:21
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I love it. Teach Teacher here.
Folks are saying only the cheater should be punished -- well yeah. But this is how the teacher figures out who that is.
Why the hell would she assume EVERY child knows?
The teacher (why do you use the pronoun she?) doesn't need to assume EVERY (why did you yell like this?) child knows. Only one needs to know. And one of them definitely does.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 17:17
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
From the mind of the cheater:
If they come forward, they will get a 0 (and possibly other consequences).
If they don't come forward, the whole class will get a 0.
So they get a 0 either way---why confess?
If they come forward, they will get a 0 (and possibly other consequences).
If they don't come forward, the whole class will get a 0.
So they get a 0 either way---why confess?
Anonymous
10/11/2023 17:14
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I love that teacher. How refreshing.
If the teacher goes through with the threat, they deserve to be fired and sued if any of those grade effect transcripts
If a class of students stands behind a cheater, they deserve to have it affect their transcripts. Academic integrity matters. We need more adults who advance because of their integrity. Lyign and cheating is ruining our world.
Why do you assume anyone knows who the cheater is?
Did you attend high school? Everyone knows who the cheater is.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 17:12
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Anonymous wrote:DD told me that her entire Physics class will be given a zero on their test because the teacher found a cheat sheet after the exam ended. The teacher said it was found on the floor but won't tell them where exactly. The teacher is giving the culprit until the end of the school day today to confess or else everyone in that period gets a 0 entered in the gradebook.
DD is furious and wants me to complain. I've been looking through the handbook and all I can find is information related to if a single student is found to be cheating. I can't find anything on a whole class. If that makes sense. For a single student caught cheating, they have to take an integrity seminar, watch a powerpoint and answer questions, and can then redo the test/assignment for 50% credit.
If no one confesses, and DD is sure no one will because the teacher doesn't know who it was, DD's grades on tests for the period will be 95, 98, 0, and 1 more test the week of Oct 16. If she gets 100 on the last test for the grading period, her test average for the class will still only be a 73, which is a C. DD has never gotten a C before and is freaking out since everyone has drilled into their heads that the junior year grades are most important for colleges.
She needs to advocate for herself. If anyone's going to complain, it should be her.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 16:50
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Anonymous wrote:Omg suing the teacher? Are you for real? Cheating is very bad. This teacher clearly put the fear in all of them. I suspect it all will work out in the end. Let it be.
OP's DD didn't cheat. OP's DD doesn't know who cheated.
Anonymous
10/11/2023 16:48
Subject: Entire class given 0 on test - is this allowed? LCPS high school.
Anonymous wrote:I love it. Teach Teacher here.
Folks are saying only the cheater should be punished -- well yeah. But this is how the teacher figures out who that is.
That's the teacher's job, not the students'