Anonymous
Post 10/07/2023 13:02     Subject: Re:DC Council & Traffic Enforcement

Look, I know this meeting is about traffic safety and so I'm going to want to really talk about all these freaking bike lanes which are just a scourge on the city.

- Nick Delledonne

Anonymous
Post 10/07/2023 11:55     Subject: DC Council & Traffic Enforcement

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:And if they don't want to chase cars then the alternative should NEVER be "just let them go." That is completely irresponsible and unacceptable. Instead MPD should invest in alternatives like GPS darts. Let them go but then safely follow them right to their house.

https://pappalardolaw.com/2023/04/gps-darts-police-use-vehicle-pursuits/


This is a good point.

The MPD has interpreted the policy that they don't do pursuits to actually mean that they just don't pull anyone over.

The policy is supposed to be that if MPD attempts to pull someone over and they fail to stop there is no pursuit which is probably a sensible policy.

But that isn't where it should end.

In DC failing to pull over for the police is actually a felony that should lead to jail time.

So if we had a functioning police department after a car failed to stop it would get referred to detectives who would look up the plate (assuming the car has one but as bad as the paper plate issue is most cars in DC do have legal plates) and then send someone to arrest the driver later and charge him with both the traffic infractions and for failing to stop.

With social media it would not take that long for word to get out and for drivers to find out other drivers have gone to jail for trying to dodge a $100 traffic citation.

But this is DC so MPD uses his policy as cover to dodge doing work and no one in the Executive branch or the DC Council dares to question this ineffective department and its coddled and lazy officers.


You can’t be this naive. The epidemic of traffic offenses are being committed by cars with fake tags. There’s nothing to follow up on. But you knew that. You also know that, no matter how many citations a vehicle receives, there are no criminal penalties until the Lexus kills innocent people on Rock Creek Parkway.

But yes yes, more fantasies about traffic Batman, please.


Umm..? The cops have managed to figure out a way to deal with it in NYC. So, there is a way to deal with the “epidemic” of fake tags, if only our police weren’t so lazy and coddled.

But you knew that.


Except our Council explicitly told cops not to pursue fake tags for equity reasons.

But you didn't know that (because you're stupid).


Wrong. It was the Mayor’s Office of Racial Equity under the Office of the City Administrator. But you didn’t know that because YOU’RE stupid. And probably a man.


Your initial point is just as wrong and stupid if it’s the mayor as if it’s the council.

But you knew that.


You’re just mad that you’re wrong and stupid, bro. Don’t blame me for your incompetence.
And my initial point actually is not wrong - the mayor, who has authority over the police, could have had them go chase after fake tags and she still could do that. If only the people who advised her weren’t such idiots like you.


You were trying to blame the cops. They were called off from dealing with fake tags by people that the city voted for. That's the point I was trying to make, be it the mayor's office or the Council.


Oh. Oh. Oh. I suppose that’s a good point.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2023 11:22     Subject: DC Council & Traffic Enforcement

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And if they don't want to chase cars then the alternative should NEVER be "just let them go." That is completely irresponsible and unacceptable. Instead MPD should invest in alternatives like GPS darts. Let them go but then safely follow them right to their house.

https://pappalardolaw.com/2023/04/gps-darts-police-use-vehicle-pursuits/


This is a good point.

The MPD has interpreted the policy that they don't do pursuits to actually mean that they just don't pull anyone over.

The policy is supposed to be that if MPD attempts to pull someone over and they fail to stop there is no pursuit which is probably a sensible policy.

But that isn't where it should end.

In DC failing to pull over for the police is actually a felony that should lead to jail time.

So if we had a functioning police department after a car failed to stop it would get referred to detectives who would look up the plate (assuming the car has one but as bad as the paper plate issue is most cars in DC do have legal plates) and then send someone to arrest the driver later and charge him with both the traffic infractions and for failing to stop.

With social media it would not take that long for word to get out and for drivers to find out other drivers have gone to jail for trying to dodge a $100 traffic citation.

But this is DC so MPD uses his policy as cover to dodge doing work and no one in the Executive branch or the DC Council dares to question this ineffective department and its coddled and lazy officers.


You can’t be this naive. The epidemic of traffic offenses are being committed by cars with fake tags. There’s nothing to follow up on. But you knew that. You also know that, no matter how many citations a vehicle receives, there are no criminal penalties until the Lexus kills innocent people on Rock Creek Parkway.

But yes yes, more fantasies about traffic Batman, please.


Umm..? The cops have managed to figure out a way to deal with it in NYC. So, there is a way to deal with the “epidemic” of fake tags, if only our police weren’t so lazy and coddled.

But you knew that.


Except our Council explicitly told cops not to pursue fake tags for equity reasons.

But you didn't know that (because you're stupid).


Wrong. It was the Mayor’s Office of Racial Equity under the Office of the City Administrator. But you didn’t know that because YOU’RE stupid. And probably a man.


Your initial point is just as wrong and stupid if it’s the mayor as if it’s the council.

But you knew that.


You’re just mad that you’re wrong and stupid, bro. Don’t blame me for your incompetence.
And my initial point actually is not wrong - the mayor, who has authority over the police, could have had them go chase after fake tags and she still could do that. If only the people who advised her weren’t such idiots like you.


She can’t. The Council passed what is in effect a “no chase” law.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2023 11:19     Subject: DC Council & Traffic Enforcement

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And if they don't want to chase cars then the alternative should NEVER be "just let them go." That is completely irresponsible and unacceptable. Instead MPD should invest in alternatives like GPS darts. Let them go but then safely follow them right to their house.

https://pappalardolaw.com/2023/04/gps-darts-police-use-vehicle-pursuits/


This is a good point.

The MPD has interpreted the policy that they don't do pursuits to actually mean that they just don't pull anyone over.

The policy is supposed to be that if MPD attempts to pull someone over and they fail to stop there is no pursuit which is probably a sensible policy.

But that isn't where it should end.

In DC failing to pull over for the police is actually a felony that should lead to jail time.

So if we had a functioning police department after a car failed to stop it would get referred to detectives who would look up the plate (assuming the car has one but as bad as the paper plate issue is most cars in DC do have legal plates) and then send someone to arrest the driver later and charge him with both the traffic infractions and for failing to stop.

With social media it would not take that long for word to get out and for drivers to find out other drivers have gone to jail for trying to dodge a $100 traffic citation.

But this is DC so MPD uses his policy as cover to dodge doing work and no one in the Executive branch or the DC Council dares to question this ineffective department and its coddled and lazy officers.


You can’t be this naive. The epidemic of traffic offenses are being committed by cars with fake tags. There’s nothing to follow up on. But you knew that. You also know that, no matter how many citations a vehicle receives, there are no criminal penalties until the Lexus kills innocent people on Rock Creek Parkway.

But yes yes, more fantasies about traffic Batman, please.


Umm..? The cops have managed to figure out a way to deal with it in NYC. So, there is a way to deal with the “epidemic” of fake tags, if only our police weren’t so lazy and coddled.

But you knew that.


Except our Council explicitly told cops not to pursue fake tags for equity reasons.

But you didn't know that (because you're stupid).


Wrong. It was the Mayor’s Office of Racial Equity under the Office of the City Administrator. But you didn’t know that because YOU’RE stupid. And probably a man.


Your initial point is just as wrong and stupid if it’s the mayor as if it’s the council.

But you knew that.


You’re just mad that you’re wrong and stupid, bro. Don’t blame me for your incompetence.
And my initial point actually is not wrong - the mayor, who has authority over the police, could have had them go chase after fake tags and she still could do that. If only the people who advised her weren’t such idiots like you.


You were trying to blame the cops. They were called off from dealing with fake tags by people that the city voted for. That's the point I was trying to make, be it the mayor's office or the Council.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2023 11:00     Subject: DC Council & Traffic Enforcement

It's a bit funny that both the mayor and the council are to blame, but the mayor is better at pointing at the council than vice-versa.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2023 08:58     Subject: DC Council & Traffic Enforcement

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And if they don't want to chase cars then the alternative should NEVER be "just let them go." That is completely irresponsible and unacceptable. Instead MPD should invest in alternatives like GPS darts. Let them go but then safely follow them right to their house.

https://pappalardolaw.com/2023/04/gps-darts-police-use-vehicle-pursuits/


This is a good point.

The MPD has interpreted the policy that they don't do pursuits to actually mean that they just don't pull anyone over.

The policy is supposed to be that if MPD attempts to pull someone over and they fail to stop there is no pursuit which is probably a sensible policy.

But that isn't where it should end.

In DC failing to pull over for the police is actually a felony that should lead to jail time.

So if we had a functioning police department after a car failed to stop it would get referred to detectives who would look up the plate (assuming the car has one but as bad as the paper plate issue is most cars in DC do have legal plates) and then send someone to arrest the driver later and charge him with both the traffic infractions and for failing to stop.

With social media it would not take that long for word to get out and for drivers to find out other drivers have gone to jail for trying to dodge a $100 traffic citation.

But this is DC so MPD uses his policy as cover to dodge doing work and no one in the Executive branch or the DC Council dares to question this ineffective department and its coddled and lazy officers.


You can’t be this naive. The epidemic of traffic offenses are being committed by cars with fake tags. There’s nothing to follow up on. But you knew that. You also know that, no matter how many citations a vehicle receives, there are no criminal penalties until the Lexus kills innocent people on Rock Creek Parkway.

But yes yes, more fantasies about traffic Batman, please.


Umm..? The cops have managed to figure out a way to deal with it in NYC. So, there is a way to deal with the “epidemic” of fake tags, if only our police weren’t so lazy and coddled.

But you knew that.


Except our Council explicitly told cops not to pursue fake tags for equity reasons.

But you didn't know that (because you're stupid).


Wrong. It was the Mayor’s Office of Racial Equity under the Office of the City Administrator. But you didn’t know that because YOU’RE stupid. And probably a man.


Your initial point is just as wrong and stupid if it’s the mayor as if it’s the council.

But you knew that.


You’re just mad that you’re wrong and stupid, bro. Don’t blame me for your incompetence.
And my initial point actually is not wrong - the mayor, who has authority over the police, could have had them go chase after fake tags and she still could do that. If only the people who advised her weren’t such idiots like you.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 23:04     Subject: DC Council & Traffic Enforcement

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And if they don't want to chase cars then the alternative should NEVER be "just let them go." That is completely irresponsible and unacceptable. Instead MPD should invest in alternatives like GPS darts. Let them go but then safely follow them right to their house.

https://pappalardolaw.com/2023/04/gps-darts-police-use-vehicle-pursuits/


This is a good point.

The MPD has interpreted the policy that they don't do pursuits to actually mean that they just don't pull anyone over.

The policy is supposed to be that if MPD attempts to pull someone over and they fail to stop there is no pursuit which is probably a sensible policy.

But that isn't where it should end.

In DC failing to pull over for the police is actually a felony that should lead to jail time.

So if we had a functioning police department after a car failed to stop it would get referred to detectives who would look up the plate (assuming the car has one but as bad as the paper plate issue is most cars in DC do have legal plates) and then send someone to arrest the driver later and charge him with both the traffic infractions and for failing to stop.

With social media it would not take that long for word to get out and for drivers to find out other drivers have gone to jail for trying to dodge a $100 traffic citation.

But this is DC so MPD uses his policy as cover to dodge doing work and no one in the Executive branch or the DC Council dares to question this ineffective department and its coddled and lazy officers.


You can’t be this naive. The epidemic of traffic offenses are being committed by cars with fake tags. There’s nothing to follow up on. But you knew that. You also know that, no matter how many citations a vehicle receives, there are no criminal penalties until the Lexus kills innocent people on Rock Creek Parkway.

But yes yes, more fantasies about traffic Batman, please.


Umm..? The cops have managed to figure out a way to deal with it in NYC. So, there is a way to deal with the “epidemic” of fake tags, if only our police weren’t so lazy and coddled.

But you knew that.


Except our Council explicitly told cops not to pursue fake tags for equity reasons.

But you didn't know that (because you're stupid).


People have had it up to here with “equity”!
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 22:49     Subject: DC Council & Traffic Enforcement

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And if they don't want to chase cars then the alternative should NEVER be "just let them go." That is completely irresponsible and unacceptable. Instead MPD should invest in alternatives like GPS darts. Let them go but then safely follow them right to their house.

https://pappalardolaw.com/2023/04/gps-darts-police-use-vehicle-pursuits/


This is a good point.

The MPD has interpreted the policy that they don't do pursuits to actually mean that they just don't pull anyone over.

The policy is supposed to be that if MPD attempts to pull someone over and they fail to stop there is no pursuit which is probably a sensible policy.

But that isn't where it should end.

In DC failing to pull over for the police is actually a felony that should lead to jail time.

So if we had a functioning police department after a car failed to stop it would get referred to detectives who would look up the plate (assuming the car has one but as bad as the paper plate issue is most cars in DC do have legal plates) and then send someone to arrest the driver later and charge him with both the traffic infractions and for failing to stop.

With social media it would not take that long for word to get out and for drivers to find out other drivers have gone to jail for trying to dodge a $100 traffic citation.

But this is DC so MPD uses his policy as cover to dodge doing work and no one in the Executive branch or the DC Council dares to question this ineffective department and its coddled and lazy officers.


You can’t be this naive. The epidemic of traffic offenses are being committed by cars with fake tags. There’s nothing to follow up on. But you knew that. You also know that, no matter how many citations a vehicle receives, there are no criminal penalties until the Lexus kills innocent people on Rock Creek Parkway.

But yes yes, more fantasies about traffic Batman, please.


Umm..? The cops have managed to figure out a way to deal with it in NYC. So, there is a way to deal with the “epidemic” of fake tags, if only our police weren’t so lazy and coddled.

But you knew that.


Except our Council explicitly told cops not to pursue fake tags for equity reasons.

But you didn't know that (because you're stupid).


No that was the republicans is congress. Look it up.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 22:31     Subject: DC Council & Traffic Enforcement

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And if they don't want to chase cars then the alternative should NEVER be "just let them go." That is completely irresponsible and unacceptable. Instead MPD should invest in alternatives like GPS darts. Let them go but then safely follow them right to their house.

https://pappalardolaw.com/2023/04/gps-darts-police-use-vehicle-pursuits/


This is a good point.

The MPD has interpreted the policy that they don't do pursuits to actually mean that they just don't pull anyone over.

The policy is supposed to be that if MPD attempts to pull someone over and they fail to stop there is no pursuit which is probably a sensible policy.

But that isn't where it should end.

In DC failing to pull over for the police is actually a felony that should lead to jail time.

So if we had a functioning police department after a car failed to stop it would get referred to detectives who would look up the plate (assuming the car has one but as bad as the paper plate issue is most cars in DC do have legal plates) and then send someone to arrest the driver later and charge him with both the traffic infractions and for failing to stop.

With social media it would not take that long for word to get out and for drivers to find out other drivers have gone to jail for trying to dodge a $100 traffic citation.

But this is DC so MPD uses his policy as cover to dodge doing work and no one in the Executive branch or the DC Council dares to question this ineffective department and its coddled and lazy officers.


You can’t be this naive. The epidemic of traffic offenses are being committed by cars with fake tags. There’s nothing to follow up on. But you knew that. You also know that, no matter how many citations a vehicle receives, there are no criminal penalties until the Lexus kills innocent people on Rock Creek Parkway.

But yes yes, more fantasies about traffic Batman, please.


Umm..? The cops have managed to figure out a way to deal with it in NYC. So, there is a way to deal with the “epidemic” of fake tags, if only our police weren’t so lazy and coddled.

But you knew that.


Except our Council explicitly told cops not to pursue fake tags for equity reasons.

But you didn't know that (because you're stupid).


Wrong. It was the Mayor’s Office of Racial Equity under the Office of the City Administrator. But you didn’t know that because YOU’RE stupid. And probably a man.


Your initial point is just as wrong and stupid if it’s the mayor as if it’s the council.

But you knew that.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 20:03     Subject: DC Council & Traffic Enforcement

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And if they don't want to chase cars then the alternative should NEVER be "just let them go." That is completely irresponsible and unacceptable. Instead MPD should invest in alternatives like GPS darts. Let them go but then safely follow them right to their house.

https://pappalardolaw.com/2023/04/gps-darts-police-use-vehicle-pursuits/


This is a good point.

The MPD has interpreted the policy that they don't do pursuits to actually mean that they just don't pull anyone over.

The policy is supposed to be that if MPD attempts to pull someone over and they fail to stop there is no pursuit which is probably a sensible policy.

But that isn't where it should end.

In DC failing to pull over for the police is actually a felony that should lead to jail time.

So if we had a functioning police department after a car failed to stop it would get referred to detectives who would look up the plate (assuming the car has one but as bad as the paper plate issue is most cars in DC do have legal plates) and then send someone to arrest the driver later and charge him with both the traffic infractions and for failing to stop.

With social media it would not take that long for word to get out and for drivers to find out other drivers have gone to jail for trying to dodge a $100 traffic citation.

But this is DC so MPD uses his policy as cover to dodge doing work and no one in the Executive branch or the DC Council dares to question this ineffective department and its coddled and lazy officers.


You can’t be this naive. The epidemic of traffic offenses are being committed by cars with fake tags. There’s nothing to follow up on. But you knew that. You also know that, no matter how many citations a vehicle receives, there are no criminal penalties until the Lexus kills innocent people on Rock Creek Parkway.

But yes yes, more fantasies about traffic Batman, please.


Umm..? The cops have managed to figure out a way to deal with it in NYC. So, there is a way to deal with the “epidemic” of fake tags, if only our police weren’t so lazy and coddled.

But you knew that.


Except our Council explicitly told cops not to pursue fake tags for equity reasons.

But you didn't know that (because you're stupid).


It wasn’t the council. It was the mayor’s equity task force. The MPD chief is appointed by the mayor. She wants you to blame the council, who haven’t been helpful, but she should shoulder the blame here.


+1. I wish council would do a better job of showing how the red threads point back to the mayor
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 20:00     Subject: DC Council & Traffic Enforcement

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And if they don't want to chase cars then the alternative should NEVER be "just let them go." That is completely irresponsible and unacceptable. Instead MPD should invest in alternatives like GPS darts. Let them go but then safely follow them right to their house.

https://pappalardolaw.com/2023/04/gps-darts-police-use-vehicle-pursuits/


This is a good point.

The MPD has interpreted the policy that they don't do pursuits to actually mean that they just don't pull anyone over.

The policy is supposed to be that if MPD attempts to pull someone over and they fail to stop there is no pursuit which is probably a sensible policy.

But that isn't where it should end.

In DC failing to pull over for the police is actually a felony that should lead to jail time.

So if we had a functioning police department after a car failed to stop it would get referred to detectives who would look up the plate (assuming the car has one but as bad as the paper plate issue is most cars in DC do have legal plates) and then send someone to arrest the driver later and charge him with both the traffic infractions and for failing to stop.

With social media it would not take that long for word to get out and for drivers to find out other drivers have gone to jail for trying to dodge a $100 traffic citation.

But this is DC so MPD uses his policy as cover to dodge doing work and no one in the Executive branch or the DC Council dares to question this ineffective department and its coddled and lazy officers.


You can’t be this naive. The epidemic of traffic offenses are being committed by cars with fake tags. There’s nothing to follow up on. But you knew that. You also know that, no matter how many citations a vehicle receives, there are no criminal penalties until the Lexus kills innocent people on Rock Creek Parkway.

But yes yes, more fantasies about traffic Batman, please.


Umm..? The cops have managed to figure out a way to deal with it in NYC. So, there is a way to deal with the “epidemic” of fake tags, if only our police weren’t so lazy and coddled.

But you knew that.


Except our Council explicitly told cops not to pursue fake tags for equity reasons.

But you didn't know that (because you're stupid).


Wrong. It was the Mayor’s Office of Racial Equity under the Office of the City Administrator. But you didn’t know that because YOU’RE stupid. And probably a man.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 19:20     Subject: DC Council & Traffic Enforcement

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And if they don't want to chase cars then the alternative should NEVER be "just let them go." That is completely irresponsible and unacceptable. Instead MPD should invest in alternatives like GPS darts. Let them go but then safely follow them right to their house.

https://pappalardolaw.com/2023/04/gps-darts-police-use-vehicle-pursuits/


This is a good point.

The MPD has interpreted the policy that they don't do pursuits to actually mean that they just don't pull anyone over.

The policy is supposed to be that if MPD attempts to pull someone over and they fail to stop there is no pursuit which is probably a sensible policy.

But that isn't where it should end.

In DC failing to pull over for the police is actually a felony that should lead to jail time.

So if we had a functioning police department after a car failed to stop it would get referred to detectives who would look up the plate (assuming the car has one but as bad as the paper plate issue is most cars in DC do have legal plates) and then send someone to arrest the driver later and charge him with both the traffic infractions and for failing to stop.

With social media it would not take that long for word to get out and for drivers to find out other drivers have gone to jail for trying to dodge a $100 traffic citation.

But this is DC so MPD uses his policy as cover to dodge doing work and no one in the Executive branch or the DC Council dares to question this ineffective department and its coddled and lazy officers.


You can’t be this naive. The epidemic of traffic offenses are being committed by cars with fake tags. There’s nothing to follow up on. But you knew that. You also know that, no matter how many citations a vehicle receives, there are no criminal penalties until the Lexus kills innocent people on Rock Creek Parkway.

But yes yes, more fantasies about traffic Batman, please.


Umm..? The cops have managed to figure out a way to deal with it in NYC. So, there is a way to deal with the “epidemic” of fake tags, if only our police weren’t so lazy and coddled.

But you knew that.


Except our Council explicitly told cops not to pursue fake tags for equity reasons.

But you didn't know that (because you're stupid).


It wasn’t the council. It was the mayor’s equity task force. The MPD chief is appointed by the mayor. She wants you to blame the council, who haven’t been helpful, but she should shoulder the blame here.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 18:59     Subject: DC Council & Traffic Enforcement

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And if they don't want to chase cars then the alternative should NEVER be "just let them go." That is completely irresponsible and unacceptable. Instead MPD should invest in alternatives like GPS darts. Let them go but then safely follow them right to their house.

https://pappalardolaw.com/2023/04/gps-darts-police-use-vehicle-pursuits/


This is a good point.

The MPD has interpreted the policy that they don't do pursuits to actually mean that they just don't pull anyone over.

The policy is supposed to be that if MPD attempts to pull someone over and they fail to stop there is no pursuit which is probably a sensible policy.

But that isn't where it should end.

In DC failing to pull over for the police is actually a felony that should lead to jail time.

So if we had a functioning police department after a car failed to stop it would get referred to detectives who would look up the plate (assuming the car has one but as bad as the paper plate issue is most cars in DC do have legal plates) and then send someone to arrest the driver later and charge him with both the traffic infractions and for failing to stop.

With social media it would not take that long for word to get out and for drivers to find out other drivers have gone to jail for trying to dodge a $100 traffic citation.

But this is DC so MPD uses his policy as cover to dodge doing work and no one in the Executive branch or the DC Council dares to question this ineffective department and its coddled and lazy officers.


You can’t be this naive. The epidemic of traffic offenses are being committed by cars with fake tags. There’s nothing to follow up on. But you knew that. You also know that, no matter how many citations a vehicle receives, there are no criminal penalties until the Lexus kills innocent people on Rock Creek Parkway.

But yes yes, more fantasies about traffic Batman, please.


Umm..? The cops have managed to figure out a way to deal with it in NYC. So, there is a way to deal with the “epidemic” of fake tags, if only our police weren’t so lazy and coddled.

But you knew that.


Except our Council explicitly told cops not to pursue fake tags for equity reasons.

But you didn't know that (because you're stupid).
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 18:27     Subject: DC Council & Traffic Enforcement

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And if they don't want to chase cars then the alternative should NEVER be "just let them go." That is completely irresponsible and unacceptable. Instead MPD should invest in alternatives like GPS darts. Let them go but then safely follow them right to their house.

https://pappalardolaw.com/2023/04/gps-darts-police-use-vehicle-pursuits/


This is a good point.

The MPD has interpreted the policy that they don't do pursuits to actually mean that they just don't pull anyone over.

The policy is supposed to be that if MPD attempts to pull someone over and they fail to stop there is no pursuit which is probably a sensible policy.

But that isn't where it should end.

In DC failing to pull over for the police is actually a felony that should lead to jail time.

So if we had a functioning police department after a car failed to stop it would get referred to detectives who would look up the plate (assuming the car has one but as bad as the paper plate issue is most cars in DC do have legal plates) and then send someone to arrest the driver later and charge him with both the traffic infractions and for failing to stop.

With social media it would not take that long for word to get out and for drivers to find out other drivers have gone to jail for trying to dodge a $100 traffic citation.

But this is DC so MPD uses his policy as cover to dodge doing work and no one in the Executive branch or the DC Council dares to question this ineffective department and its coddled and lazy officers.


You can’t be this naive. The epidemic of traffic offenses are being committed by cars with fake tags. There’s nothing to follow up on. But you knew that. You also know that, no matter how many citations a vehicle receives, there are no criminal penalties until the Lexus kills innocent people on Rock Creek Parkway.

But yes yes, more fantasies about traffic Batman, please.


Umm..? The cops have managed to figure out a way to deal with it in NYC. So, there is a way to deal with the “epidemic” of fake tags, if only our police weren’t so lazy and coddled.

But you knew that.


Is the mayor asking MPD to resume traffic enforcement? Is the Council asking MPD to resume traffic enforcement? I don’t doubt that the cops don’t want to be doing it, but the reality is that there is no tangible political constituency for them to do it either.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2023 18:13     Subject: DC Council & Traffic Enforcement

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Anonymous wrote:And if they don't want to chase cars then the alternative should NEVER be "just let them go." That is completely irresponsible and unacceptable. Instead MPD should invest in alternatives like GPS darts. Let them go but then safely follow them right to their house.

https://pappalardolaw.com/2023/04/gps-darts-police-use-vehicle-pursuits/


This is a good point.

The MPD has interpreted the policy that they don't do pursuits to actually mean that they just don't pull anyone over.

The policy is supposed to be that if MPD attempts to pull someone over and they fail to stop there is no pursuit which is probably a sensible policy.

But that isn't where it should end.

In DC failing to pull over for the police is actually a felony that should lead to jail time.

So if we had a functioning police department after a car failed to stop it would get referred to detectives who would look up the plate (assuming the car has one but as bad as the paper plate issue is most cars in DC do have legal plates) and then send someone to arrest the driver later and charge him with both the traffic infractions and for failing to stop.

With social media it would not take that long for word to get out and for drivers to find out other drivers have gone to jail for trying to dodge a $100 traffic citation.

But this is DC so MPD uses his policy as cover to dodge doing work and no one in the Executive branch or the DC Council dares to question this ineffective department and its coddled and lazy officers.


You can’t be this naive. The epidemic of traffic offenses are being committed by cars with fake tags. There’s nothing to follow up on. But you knew that. You also know that, no matter how many citations a vehicle receives, there are no criminal penalties until the Lexus kills innocent people on Rock Creek Parkway.

But yes yes, more fantasies about traffic Batman, please.


Yep. And that’s why we’re back to the unfortunate but inescapable conclusion that there is no way out of the mess other than going all the way back to good old fashioned police chases. Sad but that’s the way it is.


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