Anonymous
10/05/2023 11:59
Subject: Where you go to college matters!
Anonymous wrote:The OP is absolutely correct.
It's not that recruiters look at two candidates and choose the one from the 'better' school. It's that they never see the kid from the lesser school at all because their company doesn't recruit at that school.
I have a kid at an Ivy and it is stunning how many of the top consulting and banking companies literally woo her. They give pre-interview sessions to help train her in doing case-based interviews. They email her asking her to apply. One company invited her for a week-long training (called a 'summit') culminating in an internship interview, and sent her a basket of muffins because she accepted the offer to attend the summit (!). There's nothing special about her but she is clearly getting extra attention.
On the other hand, I teach at a lower tiered university, and it's not just that our students don't not get emails or extra help from those same companies. It's that those companies don't come to campus to do campus interviews and don't really entertain applications unless the kid has some other hook (parent at the company, etc). These companies have a defined list of 'target' schools (and it's public what schools those are).
This is all related to wall street/consulting. I've heard similar things about big tech. It doesn't apply to all companies. But it does apply to a lot of companies that are well respected, pay well, and hire a ton of undergrads.
+1000
Anyone in denial of this is clueless.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 11:28
Subject: Re:Where you go to college matters!
Anonymous wrote:
Of course it matters to an extent.
However it's a factor among many other factors.
Your major matters more in terms of outcomes.
Anyone pretends it doesn't matter at all have kids in mediocre schools.
Or know or work with people from "elite" and "mediocre" schools and know that schools are irrelevant when it comes to success, money, or smarts.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 10:51
Subject: Re:Where you go to college matters!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So OP, say you were laying in the emergency room and the only doctor to save you went a no name medical school. Would you let them save you?
I don't need to know the doctor's alma mater to know whether or not I trust him. All I need to do is look at him.
Cue the rabid feminists…
Anonymous
10/05/2023 10:44
Subject: Re:Where you go to college matters!
Anonymous wrote:So OP, say you were laying in the emergency room and the only doctor to save you went a no name medical school. Would you let them save you?
I don't need to know the doctor's alma mater to know whether or not I trust him. All I need to do is look at him.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 10:34
Subject: Where you go to college matters!
This is true. I was recruited from a top women's college into corporate banking (later went IB). Kid from bucknell was recruited only for middle market banking. Same firm.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 10:34
Subject: Where you go to college matters!
Anonymous wrote:The OP is absolutely correct.
It's not that recruiters look at two candidates and choose the one from the 'better' school. It's that they never see the kid from the lesser school at all because their company doesn't recruit at that school.
I have a kid at an Ivy and it is stunning how many of the top consulting and banking companies literally woo her. They give pre-interview sessions to help train her in doing case-based interviews. They email her asking her to apply. One company invited her for a week-long training (called a 'summit') culminating in an internship interview, and sent her a basket of muffins because she accepted the offer to attend the summit (!). There's nothing special about her but she is clearly getting extra attention.
On the other hand, I teach at a lower tiered university, and it's not just that our students don't not get emails or extra help from those same companies. It's that those companies don't come to campus to do campus interviews and don't really entertain applications unless the kid has some other hook (parent at the company, etc). These companies have a defined list of 'target' schools (and it's public what schools those are).
This is all related to wall street/consulting. I've heard similar things about big tech. It doesn't apply to all companies. But it does apply to a lot of companies that are well respected, pay well, and hire a ton of undergrads.
THat's a lie for big tech companies. They recruit all over, not just elite colleges.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 10:32
Subject: Re:Where you go to college matters!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this a troll post?
Probably. I can't believe threads like this stay up while the Taylor Swift thread is shut down.
Where did Taylor Swift go to college?
At a certain point she's going to have move on from her hobby and get a real job. She'll realize then where she went to college matters.
Lol
Anonymous
10/05/2023 10:26
Subject: Where you go to college matters!
Anonymous wrote:Absolute nonsense. I hire many graduates every year. The idea that they are divided into some kind of caste system based on where they went to college is simply ludicrous. Of course we have a vague ranking of the different universities, but your personality, experience, interests, and individual accomplishments count for more. And of course, once you are in the door no one gives a crap where you went to university.
What's your company's name? That matters too.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 10:08
Subject: Where you go to college matters!
The OP is absolutely correct.
It's not that recruiters look at two candidates and choose the one from the 'better' school. It's that they never see the kid from the lesser school at all because their company doesn't recruit at that school.
I have a kid at an Ivy and it is stunning how many of the top consulting and banking companies literally woo her. They give pre-interview sessions to help train her in doing case-based interviews. They email her asking her to apply. One company invited her for a week-long training (called a 'summit') culminating in an internship interview, and sent her a basket of muffins because she accepted the offer to attend the summit (!). There's nothing special about her but she is clearly getting extra attention.
On the other hand, I teach at a lower tiered university, and it's not just that our students don't not get emails or extra help from those same companies. It's that those companies don't come to campus to do campus interviews and don't really entertain applications unless the kid has some other hook (parent at the company, etc). These companies have a defined list of 'target' schools (and it's public what schools those are).
This is all related to wall street/consulting. I've heard similar things about big tech. It doesn't apply to all companies. But it does apply to a lot of companies that are well respected, pay well, and hire a ton of undergrads.
It's not that recruiters look at two candidates and choose the one from the 'better' school. It's that they never see the kid from the lesser school at all because their company doesn't recruit at that school.
I have a kid at an Ivy and it is stunning how many of the top consulting and banking companies literally woo her. They give pre-interview sessions to help train her in doing case-based interviews. They email her asking her to apply. One company invited her for a week-long training (called a 'summit') culminating in an internship interview, and sent her a basket of muffins because she accepted the offer to attend the summit (!). There's nothing special about her but she is clearly getting extra attention.
On the other hand, I teach at a lower tiered university, and it's not just that our students don't not get emails or extra help from those same companies. It's that those companies don't come to campus to do campus interviews and don't really entertain applications unless the kid has some other hook (parent at the company, etc). These companies have a defined list of 'target' schools (and it's public what schools those are).
This is all related to wall street/consulting. I've heard similar things about big tech. It doesn't apply to all companies. But it does apply to a lot of companies that are well respected, pay well, and hire a ton of undergrads.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 08:28
Subject: Re:Where you go to college matters!
Of course it matters to an extent.
However it's a factor among many other factors.
Your major matters more in terms of outcomes.
Anyone pretends it doesn't matter at all have kids in mediocre schools.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 04:36
Subject: Where you go to college matters!
Anonymous wrote:Don't be a fool. A star is a star no matter where they go to school. And a fool is a fool...
I see you are a fool
Anonymous
10/05/2023 04:29
Subject: Re:Where you go to college matters!
Anonymous wrote:So OP, say you were laying in the emergency room and the only doctor to save you went a no name medical school. Would you let them save you?
A bigger question: If you’re laying, WHY do you lay eggs? Seems like a serious problem.
Anonymous
10/05/2023 04:23
Subject: Where you go to college matters!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If a kid who really wants to be those things but didn't get the grades AT AGE 16 that they needed to get to one of the colleges you are saying 'matters', they absolutely can turn it around at whatever college they go to and make it happen.
I banking starting out at a second of third tier college requires a lot of nepotism or luck.
This is true, but why would most kids even want to go into investment banking? You mostly go around helping Russians and Chinese people launder money by ruining businesses.
It seems as if the Ohio State fraternity and accounting pipeline to ordinary corporate executive jobs is a lot nicer. Less foosball but better manners.
Anonymous
10/04/2023 21:57
Subject: Re:Where you go to college matters!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this a troll post?
Probably. I can't believe threads like this stay up while the Taylor Swift thread is shut down.
Where did Taylor Swift go to college?
At a certain point she's going to have move on from her hobby and get a real job. She'll realize then where she went to college matters.
Anonymous
10/04/2023 21:41
Subject: Re:Where you go to college matters!
Anonymous wrote:Is this a troll post?
Probably. I can't believe threads like this stay up while the Taylor Swift thread is shut down.