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Anonymous wrote:DC Council Member Charles Allen declares “This violence is unacceptable.” DC Democrats including the police force and union supported him. But now, they say “Charles Allen has turned a blind eye to concerned residents. Rather Charles Allen chooses to cater to an activist crowd whose agenda is anti-police whatever the cost.”

“Allen’s reform measures have resulted in a tragic loss of life and an increase in violent crime.”

So sad how DC keeps voting for more destruction of its own.

Hi. Defunding the police isn't about being anti-police. It's about being anti-militarization of the police. It's about putting budget pressure on the police departments to reduce spending on high tech guns, armored vehicles, etc. It's about repurposing those funds to social net programs to build positive changes in communities. Its about police departments reprioritizing community policing rather than military tactical ops.

Just because when MPD faced budget pressure they decided to downsize the force doesn't mean the decision to shrink/hold their budget was wrong. It means their mgmt didn't make the right choices to retain force size while shrinking these expensive and largely unnecessary purchases of high tech people killing gear.

Can you show me in the police budget the expenditure for armored vehicles or high tech guns?

Your screed, which you continue to keep posting, has been soundly debunked.

That was the first time I've posted it. Probably others have as well. Because it's actually talking about the intention behind defunding the police. Which, you know, was communicated by leaders of that movement and has been well-circulated by media and institutions who give enough of a shit to listen to the movement's leaders rather than the fox news talking points you apparently are jerking off to at night.

Police need more training, and higher standards (and salaries to attract better people). Not less. It's a fantasy world you live in. People in Anacostia aren't asking to defund the police, they are asking for more. Only white suburban liberals say this nonsense (who also don't deal with crime)

Police in other G7 nations typically have better governance and a lot more training, to include how to de-escalate - and accordingly, they also have better outcomes from their interactions with civilians.

Other countries don’t have the same demographics or history.

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Why not start arresting criminals?

Because lots of cops are too butt-hurt to do their jobs. Not all of them, but a lot of them.

It’s a work stand down.

Correct. It IS a work stand down of sorts. And they are 100% right in doing so. The citizens of Washington do not support their police, and those police are giving it right back. I support them completely in their efforts.

You did this to yourselves, DC.

You could not be any more WRONG.

They are NOT "100% right" - they still have a job to do regardless of whatever else is going on. And by not doing their job, they are harming the citizens they swore to protect and serve. The ringleaders of this "stand down" are clearly unfit to serve as police officers, they have violated their oath of office and are committing an act of extortion. They should be fired, along with any other toxic elements within MPD (looking at you, Proud Boys informants and fist bumpers) and replaced with people who will uphold the oath of their office, who will go out and fight crime, and who will do better for the people of DC. THAT is what is 100% right.

Great! So you’re signing up? You can show them how it’s done!

Just know that if you actually try to “go out and fight crime,” you will be absolutely hung out to dry by the public and the politicians. Be prepared to be sued, put through court, and potentially lose your livelihood for you and your family. Know that “upholding the oath of your office” means performing jobs that are politically unpopular, and you will be treated with disdain, disrespect, and distrust no matter how honorably you do your job. Know that you’ll be assumed a “Proud Boy” even if they don’t remotely align with your views.

But yay! We need more officers because there is such an extreme shortage. I’m really glad to hear you are signing up!

Most police officers are good people but there are unfortunately far too many arrogant jerks who wouldn't hesitate to abuse their power, use excessive force and commit other abuses and do so much damage that it tarnishes the overall reputation of the police. In many cases there are notorious cops who repeatedly and unabashedly abuse their power with no repercussions whatsoever. This has led to a lot of community fatigue which has expressed itself as disdain, disrespect and distrust. This is not some "sjw" fluff, it is serious and it deeply undermines support for police. Yet police unions completely refuse to acknowledge this and continue to shield and protect the arrogant jerks rather than helping cleaning their organizations up. And as a result we have this bizarre pendulum effect of either total overpolicing or stand-downs with no reasonable middle ground whatsoever. It should be clear to see that these approaches are not working. And as for glib and unserious comments like "yay when are you signing up" that ignores the fact that many of us do in fact care about our community and likely already are doing much for it - if we didn't, we wouldn't be commenting at all.

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Anonymous wrote:
Why not start arresting criminals?

Because lots of cops are too butt-hurt to do their jobs. Not all of them, but a lot of them.

It’s a work stand down.

Correct. It IS a work stand down of sorts. And they are 100% right in doing so. The citizens of Washington do not support their police, and those police are giving it right back. I support them completely in their efforts.

You did this to yourselves, DC.

You could not be any more WRONG.

They are NOT "100% right" - they still have a job to do regardless of whatever else is going on. And by not doing their job, they are harming the citizens they swore to protect and serve. The ringleaders of this "stand down" are clearly unfit to serve as police officers, they have violated their oath of office and are committing an act of extortion. They should be fired, along with any other toxic elements within MPD (looking at you, Proud Boys informants and fist bumpers) and replaced with people who will uphold the oath of their office, who will go out and fight crime, and who will do better for the people of DC. THAT is what is 100% right.

Great! So you’re signing up? You can show them how it’s done!

Just know that if you actually try to “go out and fight crime,” you will be absolutely hung out to dry by the public and the politicians. Be prepared to be sued, put through court, and potentially lose your livelihood for you and your family. Know that “upholding the oath of your office” means performing jobs that are politically unpopular, and you will be treated with disdain, disrespect, and distrust no matter how honorably you do your job. Know that you’ll be assumed a “Proud Boy” even if they don’t remotely align with your views.

But yay! We need more officers because there is such an extreme shortage. I’m really glad to hear you are signing up!

+1,000,000

All of the emotionally driven SJWs in this thread would start spouting right wing talking points and sound like Sheriff Clarke if they spent even 2 weeks doing proactive police work in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Why not start arresting criminals?

Because lots of cops are too butt-hurt to do their jobs. Not all of them, but a lot of them.

It’s a work stand down.

Correct. It IS a work stand down of sorts. And they are 100% right in doing so. The citizens of Washington do not support their police, and those police are giving it right back. I support them completely in their efforts.

You did this to yourselves, DC.

You could not be any more WRONG.

They are NOT "100% right" - they still have a job to do regardless of whatever else is going on. And by not doing their job, they are harming the citizens they swore to protect and serve. The ringleaders of this "stand down" are clearly unfit to serve as police officers, they have violated their oath of office and are committing an act of extortion. They should be fired, along with any other toxic elements within MPD (looking at you, Proud Boys informants and fist bumpers) and replaced with people who will uphold the oath of their office, who will go out and fight crime, and who will do better for the people of DC. THAT is what is 100% right.

Great! So you’re signing up? You can show them how it’s done!

Just know that if you actually try to “go out and fight crime,” you will be absolutely hung out to dry by the public and the politicians. Be prepared to be sued, put through court, and potentially lose your livelihood for you and your family. Know that “upholding the oath of your office” means performing jobs that are politically unpopular, and you will be treated with disdain, disrespect, and distrust no matter how honorably you do your job. Know that you’ll be assumed a “Proud Boy” even if they don’t remotely align with your views.

But yay! We need more officers because there is such an extreme shortage. I’m really glad to hear you are signing up!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Why not start arresting criminals?

Because lots of cops are too butt-hurt to do their jobs. Not all of them, but a lot of them.

It’s a work stand down.

Correct. It IS a work stand down of sorts. And they are 100% right in doing so. The citizens of Washington do not support their police, and those police are giving it right back. I support them completely in their efforts.

You did this to yourselves, DC.

You could not be any more WRONG.

They are NOT "100% right" - they still have a job to do regardless of whatever else is going on. And by not doing their job, they are harming the citizens they swore to protect and serve. The ringleaders of this "stand down" are clearly unfit to serve as police officers, they have violated their oath of office and are committing an act of extortion. They should be fired, along with any other toxic elements within MPD (looking at you, Proud Boys informants and fist bumpers) and replaced with people who will uphold the oath of their office, who will go out and fight crime, and who will do better for the people of DC. THAT is what is 100% right.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Why not start arresting criminals?

Because lots of cops are too butt-hurt to do their jobs. Not all of them, but a lot of them.

It’s a work stand down.

Correct. It IS a work stand down of sorts. And they are 100% right in doing so. The citizens of Washington do not support their police, and those police are giving it right back. I support them completely in their efforts.

You did this to yourselves, DC.

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Anonymous wrote:DC Council Member Charles Allen declares “This violence is unacceptable.” DC Democrats including the police force and union supported him. But now, they say “Charles Allen has turned a blind eye to concerned residents. Rather Charles Allen chooses to cater to an activist crowd whose agenda is anti-police whatever the cost.”

“Allen’s reform measures have resulted in a tragic loss of life and an increase in violent crime.”

So sad how DC keeps voting for more destruction of its own.

Hi. Defunding the police isn't about being anti-police. It's about being anti-militarization of the police. It's about putting budget pressure on the police departments to reduce spending on high tech guns, armored vehicles, etc. It's about repurposing those funds to social net programs to build positive changes in communities. Its about police departments reprioritizing community policing rather than military tactical ops.

Just because when MPD faced budget pressure they decided to downsize the force doesn't mean the decision to shrink/hold their budget was wrong. It means their mgmt didn't make the right choices to retain force size while shrinking these expensive and largely unnecessary purchases of high tech people killing gear.

Can you show me in the police budget the expenditure for armored vehicles or high tech guns?

Your screed, which you continue to keep posting, has been soundly debunked.

That was the first time I've posted it. Probably others have as well. Because it's actually talking about the intention behind defunding the police. Which, you know, was communicated by leaders of that movement and has been well-circulated by media and institutions who give enough of a shit to listen to the movement's leaders rather than the fox news talking points you apparently are jerking off to at night.

Police need more training, and higher standards (and salaries to attract better people). Not less. It's a fantasy world you live in. People in Anacostia aren't asking to defund the police, they are asking for more. Only white suburban liberals say this nonsense (who also don't deal with crime)

Police in other G7 nations typically have better governance and a lot more training, to include how to de-escalate - and accordingly, they also have better outcomes from their interactions with civilians.

Let's be honest, police in other G7 nations have better citizenry. Or at least a lot fewer guns. That's changing though as mass migration of people is changing those countries.

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Why not start arresting criminals?

Because lots of cops are too butt-hurt to do their jobs. Not all of them, but a lot of them.

It’s a work stand down.

Why not start arresting criminals?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC Council Member Charles Allen declares “This violence is unacceptable.” DC Democrats including the police force and union supported him. But now, they say “Charles Allen has turned a blind eye to concerned residents. Rather Charles Allen chooses to cater to an activist crowd whose agenda is anti-police whatever the cost.”

“Allen’s reform measures have resulted in a tragic loss of life and an increase in violent crime.”

So sad how DC keeps voting for more destruction of its own.

Hi. Defunding the police isn't about being anti-police. It's about being anti-militarization of the police. It's about putting budget pressure on the police departments to reduce spending on high tech guns, armored vehicles, etc. It's about repurposing those funds to social net programs to build positive changes in communities. Its about police departments reprioritizing community policing rather than military tactical ops.

Just because when MPD faced budget pressure they decided to downsize the force doesn't mean the decision to shrink/hold their budget was wrong. It means their mgmt didn't make the right choices to retain force size while shrinking these expensive and largely unnecessary purchases of high tech people killing gear.

Can you show me in the police budget the expenditure for armored vehicles or high tech guns?

Your screed, which you continue to keep posting, has been soundly debunked.

That was the first time I've posted it. Probably others have as well. Because it's actually talking about the intention behind defunding the police. Which, you know, was communicated by leaders of that movement and has been well-circulated by media and institutions who give enough of a shit to listen to the movement's leaders rather than the fox news talking points you apparently are jerking off to at night.

Police need more training, and higher standards (and salaries to attract better people). Not less. It's a fantasy world you live in. People in Anacostia aren't asking to defund the police, they are asking for more. Only white suburban liberals say this nonsense (who also don't deal with crime)

Police in other G7 nations typically have better governance and a lot more training, to include how to de-escalate - and accordingly, they also have better outcomes from their interactions with civilians.

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Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when you flood the country with cheap guns.

You can’t police or prosecute your way out of dumb young men getting free access to firearms.

I know plenty of dumb young men, happen to be the parent of one. And they and their friends and acquaintances have never, ever procured a illegal firearm or shot someone.

You can parent and imprison our way out of this, but that takes guts and commitment.

We can also crack down on the flood of illegal guns. But we are held back from doing so by the NRA, by way of their funded GOP members of congress.

Make no mistake, NRA isn't actually on the side of freedom or anything else, they are on the side of one and one thing only: SELLING GUNS AND THE PROFIT IT GENERATES.

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Anonymous wrote:Even if criminals get arrested, they know they’ll skate right back onto the streets as long as DC is controlled by Democrats. Nothing is changing any time soon.

Why should cops even bother risking their lives to make an arrest?

Risking their lives? It’s not even that stark. What about risking their pensions and even their career employability just because they might make a justifiable use of force and the protester-class decides to target them?

Not worth it. Let the crimes happen, show up when the perps are gone, take a report, tell the victim to file an insurance claim and go home safe at the end of the day. See a crime in progress? Look the other way, pretend you didn’t see it.

This x 100. You make a human being feel like they’re a monster and project that you’re going to prosecute them if an interaction with a hardened criminal doesn’t go look good on someone’s cell phone camera and they’re going to have a natural human response and start acting exactly as PP describes. Why go the extra mile and be proactive about stopping crimes before they happen when it’s putting your career and your family’s reputation and financial security in jeopardy? There are absolutely no incentives for cops to not just dial it in and do the bare minimum.

If you're violently slamming unarmed, non-violent, non-threatening people onto the ground, face down, putting your knee on their back, just because they asked you what's going on or why you stopped them, you might in fact be a monster.

Links to that happening recently in DC.

It happens every week, all over the country. People are fatigued by the constant stream of incidents of excessive use of force. Police departments owe it to communities to do better and rebuild trust.

Great, then it shouldn't be hard for you to post an instance of it happening in DC in the last week.

But, you didn't. Because you are wrong. Get off twitter and into the real world dude. Most police are great people, contrary to what the DSA tells you.

Most police are not happy with having millions of randos strapping heat. There is no sure way to tell a "good guy with a gun" from anyone else with a gun.

Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when you flood the country with cheap guns.

You can’t police or prosecute your way out of dumb young men getting free access to firearms.

I know plenty of dumb young men, happen to be the parent of one. And they and their friends and acquaintances have never, ever procured a illegal firearm or shot someone.

You can parent and imprison our way out of this, but that takes guts and commitment.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC Council Member Charles Allen declares “This violence is unacceptable.” DC Democrats including the police force and union supported him. But now, they say “Charles Allen has turned a blind eye to concerned residents. Rather Charles Allen chooses to cater to an activist crowd whose agenda is anti-police whatever the cost.”

“Allen’s reform measures have resulted in a tragic loss of life and an increase in violent crime.”

So sad how DC keeps voting for more destruction of its own.

Hi. Defunding the police isn't about being anti-police. It's about being anti-militarization of the police. It's about putting budget pressure on the police departments to reduce spending on high tech guns, armored vehicles, etc. It's about repurposing those funds to social net programs to build positive changes in communities. Its about police departments reprioritizing community policing rather than military tactical ops.

Just because when MPD faced budget pressure they decided to downsize the force doesn't mean the decision to shrink/hold their budget was wrong. It means their mgmt didn't make the right choices to retain force size while shrinking these expensive and largely unnecessary purchases of high tech people killing gear.

Can you show me in the police budget the expenditure for armored vehicles or high tech guns?

Your screed, which you continue to keep posting, has been soundly debunked.

What is a high tech gun?

Is that one of them thar gunz that shoots boolets that go around corners?

I think the PP meant that instead of the po-lice having gunz, they send in social workers to deescalate a parlay gone wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC Council Member Charles Allen declares “This violence is unacceptable.” DC Democrats including the police force and union supported him. But now, they say “Charles Allen has turned a blind eye to concerned residents. Rather Charles Allen chooses to cater to an activist crowd whose agenda is anti-police whatever the cost.”

“Allen’s reform measures have resulted in a tragic loss of life and an increase in violent crime.”

So sad how DC keeps voting for more destruction of its own.

Hi. Defunding the police isn't about being anti-police. It's about being anti-militarization of the police. It's about putting budget pressure on the police departments to reduce spending on high tech guns, armored vehicles, etc. It's about repurposing those funds to social net programs to build positive changes in communities. Its about police departments reprioritizing community policing rather than military tactical ops.

Just because when MPD faced budget pressure they decided to downsize the force doesn't mean the decision to shrink/hold their budget was wrong. It means their mgmt didn't make the right choices to retain force size while shrinking these expensive and largely unnecessary purchases of high tech people killing gear.

Can you show me in the police budget the expenditure for armored vehicles or high tech guns?

Your screed, which you continue to keep posting, has been soundly debunked.

That was the first time I've posted it. Probably others have as well. Because it's actually talking about the intention behind defunding the police. Which, you know, was communicated by leaders of that movement and has been well-circulated by media and institutions who give enough of a shit to listen to the movement's leaders rather than the fox news talking points you apparently are jerking off to at night.

Police need more training, and higher standards (and salaries to attract better people). Not less. It's a fantasy world you live in. People in Anacostia aren't asking to defund the police, they are asking for more. Only white suburban liberals say this nonsense (who also don't deal with crime)