Anonymous
10/03/2023 22:52
Subject: Re:Do I let my teen drop down to non-honors Alg 2?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yep. My DD dropped down. No regrets.
If I could do it all over again, I don't think I would have ever had them go the compacted math route.
+1. My younger child is actually stronger in math but was put on the slower track. By the time they get to HS, this is really a blessing in disguise.
It's definitely NOT a blessing in disguise. Kids these days lack grit, resilience, and perseverance. I think there's a TON of value in taking an accelerated and difficult math class and working your butt off for a B minus -- it teaches you how to work hard and how to push yourself. This is especially important for gifted kids (which presumably OP's kid is based off of their description), as they tend to have a lot of unearned academic success.
Push your kids outside of their comfort zone! This is why I believe that most kids in DMV public schools (unless they have a learning disorder) should be taking the most rigorous course load that their school offers. Kids NEED to be pushed out of their comfort zone.
One B- means UVA is off the table. This is why parents freak out over a single B.
Can you please share data confirming that no one with a single B is admitted to UVA? Wouldn’t they care more about overall GPA?
GPA’s are so high now that one ding like that is enough. Kids getting into UVA have 4.6+
Anonymous
10/03/2023 22:33
Subject: Re:Do I let my teen drop down to non-honors Alg 2?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yep. My DD dropped down. No regrets.
If I could do it all over again, I don't think I would have ever had them go the compacted math route.
+1. My younger child is actually stronger in math but was put on the slower track. By the time they get to HS, this is really a blessing in disguise.
It's definitely NOT a blessing in disguise. Kids these days lack grit, resilience, and perseverance. I think there's a TON of value in taking an accelerated and difficult math class and working your butt off for a B minus -- it teaches you how to work hard and how to push yourself. This is especially important for gifted kids (which presumably OP's kid is based off of their description), as they tend to have a lot of unearned academic success.
Push your kids outside of their comfort zone! This is why I believe that most kids in DMV public schools (unless they have a learning disorder) should be taking the most rigorous course load that their school offers. Kids NEED to be pushed out of their comfort zone.
One B- means UVA is off the table. This is why parents freak out over a single B.
Fortunately, with the rollout of standards based grading, more and more excellent students will have Bs and they will no longer be disqualifying.
Can you say more about this?
Standards (or skills) based grading throttles the number of As and Fs so there is less of a gap between the top and bottom students. So the administration and school board can claim they have improved equity. As this is rolled out to more schools, hopefully the top Virginia colleges will catch on and admit more students with some Bs and Cs, because there will just be fewer kids from FCPS with all As. I am not sure colleges outside Virginia will do this, but FCPS is pretty big, so maybe? I’m sad that my kid is the test case for the program.
Anonymous
10/03/2023 22:02
Subject: Re:Do I let my teen drop down to non-honors Alg 2?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yep. My DD dropped down. No regrets.
If I could do it all over again, I don't think I would have ever had them go the compacted math route.
+1. My younger child is actually stronger in math but was put on the slower track. By the time they get to HS, this is really a blessing in disguise.
It's definitely NOT a blessing in disguise. Kids these days lack grit, resilience, and perseverance. I think there's a TON of value in taking an accelerated and difficult math class and working your butt off for a B minus -- it teaches you how to work hard and how to push yourself. This is especially important for gifted kids (which presumably OP's kid is based off of their description), as they tend to have a lot of unearned academic success.
Push your kids outside of their comfort zone! This is why I believe that most kids in DMV public schools (unless they have a learning disorder) should be taking the most rigorous course load that their school offers. Kids NEED to be pushed out of their comfort zone.
One B- means UVA is off the table. This is why parents freak out over a single B.
Can you please share data confirming that no one with a single B is admitted to UVA? Wouldn’t they care more about overall GPA?
Anonymous
10/03/2023 22:00
Subject: Do I let my teen drop down to non-honors Alg 2?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For those who like math, DD learned this way .. prompted by having a very bad teacher one particular year. DD read ahead and taught herself the next topic (or did he best to). Easier if they are using textbooks or have the material and have a good syllabus.
She taught herself. When the teacher then covered the material in class, it was reenforcement and time to clarify w/questions.
This is how college works. After elementary school you should stop waiting for the teacher to read the book to you.
Are you joking? There aren't books for the students to read in MS and HS.
Anonymous
10/03/2023 21:56
Subject: Re:Do I let my teen drop down to non-honors Alg 2?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yep. My DD dropped down. No regrets.
If I could do it all over again, I don't think I would have ever had them go the compacted math route.
+1. My younger child is actually stronger in math but was put on the slower track. By the time they get to HS, this is really a blessing in disguise.
It's definitely NOT a blessing in disguise. Kids these days lack grit, resilience, and perseverance. I think there's a TON of value in taking an accelerated and difficult math class and working your butt off for a B minus -- it teaches you how to work hard and how to push yourself. This is especially important for gifted kids (which presumably OP's kid is based off of their description), as they tend to have a lot of unearned academic success.
Push your kids outside of their comfort zone! This is why I believe that most kids in DMV public schools (unless they have a learning disorder) should be taking the most rigorous course load that their school offers. Kids NEED to be pushed out of their comfort zone.
One B- means UVA is off the table. This is why parents freak out over a single B.
Fortunately, with the rollout of standards based grading, more and more excellent students will have Bs and they will no longer be disqualifying.
Can you say more about this?
Anonymous
10/03/2023 21:55
Subject: Do I let my teen drop down to non-honors Alg 2?
Anonymous wrote:For those who like math, DD learned this way .. prompted by having a very bad teacher one particular year. DD read ahead and taught herself the next topic (or did he best to). Easier if they are using textbooks or have the material and have a good syllabus.
She taught herself. When the teacher then covered the material in class, it was reenforcement and time to clarify w/questions.
This is how college works. After elementary school you should stop waiting for the teacher to read the book to you.
Anonymous
10/03/2023 21:44
Subject: Re:Do I let my teen drop down to non-honors Alg 2?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yep. My DD dropped down. No regrets.
If I could do it all over again, I don't think I would have ever had them go the compacted math route.
+1. My younger child is actually stronger in math but was put on the slower track. By the time they get to HS, this is really a blessing in disguise.
It's definitely NOT a blessing in disguise. Kids these days lack grit, resilience, and perseverance. I think there's a TON of value in taking an accelerated and difficult math class and working your butt off for a B minus -- it teaches you how to work hard and how to push yourself. This is especially important for gifted kids (which presumably OP's kid is based off of their description), as they tend to have a lot of unearned academic success.
Push your kids outside of their comfort zone! This is why I believe that most kids in DMV public schools (unless they have a learning disorder) should be taking the most rigorous course load that their school offers. Kids NEED to be pushed out of their comfort zone.
One B- means UVA is off the table. This is why parents freak out over a single B.
Fortunately, with the rollout of standards based grading, more and more excellent students will have Bs and they will no longer be disqualifying.
Anonymous
10/03/2023 21:41
Subject: Re:Do I let my teen drop down to non-honors Alg 2?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yep. My DD dropped down. No regrets.
If I could do it all over again, I don't think I would have ever had them go the compacted math route.
+1. My younger child is actually stronger in math but was put on the slower track. By the time they get to HS, this is really a blessing in disguise.
It's definitely NOT a blessing in disguise. Kids these days lack grit, resilience, and perseverance. I think there's a TON of value in taking an accelerated and difficult math class and working your butt off for a B minus -- it teaches you how to work hard and how to push yourself. This is especially important for gifted kids (which presumably OP's kid is based off of their description), as they tend to have a lot of unearned academic success.
Push your kids outside of their comfort zone! This is why I believe that most kids in DMV public schools (unless they have a learning disorder) should be taking the most rigorous course load that their school offers. Kids NEED to be pushed out of their comfort zone.
One B- means UVA is off the table. This is why parents freak out over a single B.
Anonymous
10/03/2023 16:28
Subject: Re:Do I let my teen drop down to non-honors Alg 2?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yep. My DD dropped down. No regrets.
If I could do it all over again, I don't think I would have ever had them go the compacted math route.
+1. My younger child is actually stronger in math but was put on the slower track. By the time they get to HS, this is really a blessing in disguise.
It's definitely NOT a blessing in disguise. Kids these days lack grit, resilience, and perseverance. I think there's a TON of value in taking an accelerated and difficult math class and working your butt off for a B minus -- it teaches you how to work hard and how to push yourself. This is especially important for gifted kids (which presumably OP's kid is based off of their description), as they tend to have a lot of unearned academic success.
Push your kids outside of their comfort zone! This is why I believe that most kids in DMV public schools (unless they have a learning disorder) should be taking the most rigorous course load that their school offers. Kids NEED to be pushed out of their comfort zone.
Did you walk uphill in the snow, barefoot, 6 miles everyday too?
Anonymous
10/03/2023 15:53
Subject: Do I let my teen drop down to non-honors Alg 2?
Anonymous wrote:Normally I would of course allow this if she was trying her best, doing the work, studying, and still struggling.
But that isn’t the case. She easily got A’s in previous middle school honors math classes and as a freshman is learning she can’t skate by like she always have. I have reminded her over and over again she needs to work/study harder but I am not seeing that at home. And I don’t want her to think dropping to non-honors is a an easy way out.
Anyone ever in a similar situation. Should I have a meeting/email with the teacher, look for a tutor, or anything else?
This is often considered two years advanced. She can still get to AP Calc by grad even if you drop down. Why push staying in the class?
Anonymous
10/03/2023 15:50
Subject: Do I let my teen drop down to non-honors Alg 2?
If they can't learn it then they'll never make it to super advanced math.
Anonymous
10/03/2023 15:48
Subject: Do I let my teen drop down to non-honors Alg 2?
Anonymous wrote:Most kids who are in super advanced math can’t actually do it. They are being propped up by parents or tutors.
When it comes to math, you can only help so much. In the end, kid has to learn.
Anonymous
10/03/2023 15:32
Subject: Re:Do I let my teen drop down to non-honors Alg 2?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yep. My DD dropped down. No regrets.
If I could do it all over again, I don't think I would have ever had them go the compacted math route.
+1. My younger child is actually stronger in math but was put on the slower track. By the time they get to HS, this is really a blessing in disguise.
It's definitely NOT a blessing in disguise. Kids these days lack grit, resilience, and perseverance. I think there's a TON of value in taking an accelerated and difficult math class and working your butt off for a B minus -- it teaches you how to work hard and how to push yourself. This is especially important for gifted kids (which presumably OP's kid is based off of their description), as they tend to have a lot of unearned academic success.
Push your kids outside of their comfort zone! This is why I believe that most kids in DMV public schools (unless they have a learning disorder) should be taking the most rigorous course load that their school offers. Kids NEED to be pushed out of their comfort zone.
Anonymous
10/03/2023 11:21
Subject: Do I let my teen drop down to non-honors Alg 2?
For those who like math, DD learned this way .. prompted by having a very bad teacher one particular year. DD read ahead and taught herself the next topic (or did he best to). Easier if they are using textbooks or have the material and have a good syllabus.
She taught herself. When the teacher then covered the material in class, it was reenforcement and time to clarify w/questions.
She taught herself. When the teacher then covered the material in class, it was reenforcement and time to clarify w/questions.
Anonymous
10/03/2023 10:37
Subject: Re:Do I let my teen drop down to non-honors Alg 2?
Anonymous wrote:Yep. My DD dropped down. No regrets.
If I could do it all over again, I don't think I would have ever had them go the compacted math route.
+1. My younger child is actually stronger in math but was put on the slower track. By the time they get to HS, this is really a blessing in disguise.