Anonymous wrote:As someone from an Asian American household, I will tell you that many traditional Asian parents from China and Korea especially are obsessed with us news rankings and view it as like some kind of admissions Bible. My cousin who was applying to college last year said aside from her in state safety schools, her parents would not let her apply or attend any school outside of the top 20. This is a similar mentality I've observed in many households, and can already tell anecdotally that washu and Emory are going to take a huge hit this year

This is illogical, and sounds like a coping mechanism for when said student gets rejected from.these schools. Students who care a lot about rankings would not have a high yield rate for schools like Emory and WashU. If they applied only because it was a highly ranked and was accepted , they would have gone somewhere else that had a better brand or was more highly ranked. Getting rid of students that don't really want to go but are only applying for ranks helps the yield rate of both of these schools, which in turn lowers or maintains the current acceptance rate. Also Emory didn't "drop" in the rankings, 2 spots is more of a margin for error.

Anonymous wrote:You guys put way to stock into these rankings! Do you really think an employer will say, hey, we aren't recruiting from Dartmouth this year because they dropped? C'mon, get serious...

Absolutely agree

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Anonymous wrote:As someone from an Asian American household, I will tell you that many traditional Asian parents from China and Korea especially are obsessed with us news rankings and view it as like some kind of admissions Bible. My cousin who was applying to college last year said aside from her in state safety schools, her parents would not let her apply or attend any school outside of the top 20. This is a similar mentality I've observed in many households, and can already tell anecdotally that washu and Emory are going to take a huge hit this year

We're also AAs and that is simply not true. No one intelligent is going to say to a kid that if a good-fit school went from say 14 to 23 on one ranking, don't apply now. Please don't perpetuate this stereotype. It makes all of us look bad.

Are you first gen or second generation Asian American? Probably second generation and the PP is first generation.

No, we're first gen (although came to US relatively young). Kids are second gen.

I do think coming to the US when you are young or studying undergrad or masters here changes perspectives.

Don't disagree with you. Having a mother who was a teacher and parents who highly valued education also gives us our currant perspective. We don't automatically pick the top of any ranking list simply because they ranked the top. I believe that gives us more nuance in our thinking.

You guys put way to stock into these rankings! Do you really think an employer will say, hey, we aren't recruiting from Dartmouth this year because they dropped? C'mon, get serious...

Disagree with PP about the impact on Asians, generally in our community they still aim for the same schools regardless of year-to-year shifts. Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, Penn, Duke, Columbia, are the ones I see are very popular and highly desirable amongst Asians in our area.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone from an Asian American household, I will tell you that many traditional Asian parents from China and Korea especially are obsessed with us news rankings and view it as like some kind of admissions Bible. My cousin who was applying to college last year said aside from her in state safety schools, her parents would not let her apply or attend any school outside of the top 20. This is a similar mentality I've observed in many households, and can already tell anecdotally that washu and Emory are going to take a huge hit this year

We're also AAs and that is simply not true. No one intelligent is going to say to a kid that if a good-fit school went from say 14 to 23 on one ranking, don't apply now. Please don't perpetuate this stereotype. It makes all of us look bad.

Are you first gen or second generation Asian American? Probably second generation and the PP is first generation.

No, we're first gen (although came to US relatively young). Kids are second gen.

I do think coming to the US when you are young or studying undergrad or masters here changes perspectives.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone from an Asian American household, I will tell you that many traditional Asian parents from China and Korea especially are obsessed with us news rankings and view it as like some kind of admissions Bible. My cousin who was applying to college last year said aside from her in state safety schools, her parents would not let her apply or attend any school outside of the top 20. This is a similar mentality I've observed in many households, and can already tell anecdotally that washu and Emory are going to take a huge hit this year

We're also AAs and that is simply not true. No one intelligent is going to say to a kid that if a good-fit school went from say 14 to 23 on one ranking, don't apply now. Please don't perpetuate this stereotype. It makes all of us look bad.

Are you first gen or second generation Asian American? Probably second generation and the PP is first generation.

No, we're first gen (although came to US relatively young). Kids are second gen.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess this year's USNWR ranking really matters if you now place emphasis on the number of Pell Grant recipients when choosing a college

I do if a school has an endowment the size of a small country. I expect them to have the resources to recruit the best and brightest academically. They’ve always done that for athletes so I want to see that for all students.

TBH, these rich schools don't give a whit about the poor. They accept multiples of kids from families in the top quintile than in the bottom.

+1. More kids come from families in the top 1 percent than in the bottom 50 percent

for sure. for MOST kids, it takes money to have all these advantages. but this is why some of us also care about the Pell numbers and are happy to see this in these rankings. the time is over for just the WASPiest kids to walk in. I want to see the kids with merit to have access to the top, despite their ability to pay 90k year.

Agree. Also, some kids might LOOK "WASPiest" to you, but might be first gen, you really have no idea.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone from an Asian American household, I will tell you that many traditional Asian parents from China and Korea especially are obsessed with us news rankings and view it as like some kind of admissions Bible. My cousin who was applying to college last year said aside from her in state safety schools, her parents would not let her apply or attend any school outside of the top 20. This is a similar mentality I've observed in many households, and can already tell anecdotally that washu and Emory are going to take a huge hit this year

We're also AAs and that is simply not true. No one intelligent is going to say to a kid that if a good-fit school went from say 14 to 23 on one ranking, don't apply now. Please don't perpetuate this stereotype. It makes all of us look bad.

Are you first gen or second generation Asian American? Probably second generation and the PP is first generation.

Not a huge margin of difference in most households.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone from an Asian American household, I will tell you that many traditional Asian parents from China and Korea especially are obsessed with us news rankings and view it as like some kind of admissions Bible. My cousin who was applying to college last year said aside from her in state safety schools, her parents would not let her apply or attend any school outside of the top 20. This is a similar mentality I've observed in many households, and can already tell anecdotally that washu and Emory are going to take a huge hit this year

We're also AAs and that is simply not true. No one intelligent is going to say to a kid that if a good-fit school went from say 14 to 23 on one ranking, don't apply now. Please don't perpetuate this stereotype. It makes all of us look bad.

Are you first gen or second generation Asian American? Probably second generation and the PP is first generation.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone from an Asian American household, I will tell you that many traditional Asian parents from China and Korea especially are obsessed with us news rankings and view it as like some kind of admissions Bible. My cousin who was applying to college last year said aside from her in state safety schools, her parents would not let her apply or attend any school outside of the top 20. This is a similar mentality I've observed in many households, and can already tell anecdotally that washu and Emory are going to take a huge hit this year

Emory was ranked 22 last year and 24 this year so if your grandparents couldn't notice that then I dont.know what to tell them.

+1 Emory already announced record apps for their fly in program 1600 apps for 100 spots. I'm sure WashU will be fine too, and frankly who needs more striver Asians on campus.

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Anonymous wrote:None of the shifts mean anything to employers. Some still want grads from certain schools (and the rankings don’t matter- Ivy is Ivy), some don’t care where you went. No one should consider these rankings more than top 20, top 50 and top 100. More analysis than that is a waste of time.

Oh yes Georgetown and Emory are peers to Vatech and Texas A&M.

they are more peers today than 20 years ago, for sure.

Wishful thinking.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess this year's USNWR ranking really matters if you now place emphasis on the number of Pell Grant recipients when choosing a college

I do if a school has an endowment the size of a small country. I expect them to have the resources to recruit the best and brightest academically. They’ve always done that for athletes so I want to see that for all students.

TBH, these rich schools don't give a whit about the poor. They accept multiples of kids from families in the top quintile than in the bottom.

+1. More kids come from families in the top 1 percent than in the bottom 50 percent

for sure. for MOST kids, it takes money to have all these advantages. but this is why some of us also care about the Pell numbers and are happy to see this in these rankings. the time is over for just the WASPiest kids to walk in. I want to see the kids with merit to have access to the top, despite their ability to pay 90k year.

Don't disagree with you, but it's not the Ivies that are going to improve social mobility or decrease income inequality. In fact, they are doing the opposite.

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Anonymous wrote:None of the shifts mean anything to employers. Some still want grads from certain schools (and the rankings don’t matter- Ivy is Ivy), some don’t care where you went. No one should consider these rankings more than top 20, top 50 and top 100. More analysis than that is a waste of time.

Oh yes Georgetown and Emory are peers to Vatech and Texas A&M.

they are more peers today than 20 years ago, for sure.

Anonymous wrote:As someone from an Asian American household, I will tell you that many traditional Asian parents from China and Korea especially are obsessed with us news rankings and view it as like some kind of admissions Bible. My cousin who was applying to college last year said aside from her in state safety schools, her parents would not let her apply or attend any school outside of the top 20. This is a similar mentality I've observed in many households, and can already tell anecdotally that washu and Emory are going to take a huge hit this year

Emory was ranked 22 last year and 24 this year so if your grandparents couldn't notice that then I dont.know what to tell them.