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Anonymous wrote:I would say everyone is at a disadvantage except Asians.

A few years ago I got invited to speak at St. John’s university in Queens which I attended. Back when I went it was nearly all white Catholic Catholic kids who commute to the school. I also spoke at Baruch University in NYC which used to be very popular Jewish kids from NYC


My St. John’s lecture had 120 kids attend. 119 Asian kids. I saw one white girl. No other nationality

My Baruch Lecture around 150 kids, one Spanish and two black kids and 147 Asians.

They I spoke at a very low ranked community college in NYC and nearly all black.

No clue there the white people go to college in NY

Asian students are very active with various clubs and activities and also volunteer quite a bit around the campus. They love attending lectures as well.

Yup. Inconvenient truth.

Anonymous wrote:I would say everyone is at a disadvantage except Asians.

A few years ago I got invited to speak at St. John’s university in Queens which I attended. Back when I went it was nearly all white Catholic Catholic kids who commute to the school. I also spoke at Baruch University in NYC which used to be very popular Jewish kids from NYC


My St. John’s lecture had 120 kids attend. 119 Asian kids. I saw one white girl. No other nationality

My Baruch Lecture around 150 kids, one Spanish and two black kids and 147 Asians.

They I spoke at a very low ranked community college in NYC and nearly all black.

No clue there the white people go to college in NY

Asian students are very active with various clubs and activities and also volunteer quite a bit around the campus. They love attending lectures as well.

What a troubled bunch...

So colleges are going to have to step up their recruiting game. They’re going to have to pay careful attention to districts and high schools that are diverse and make sure they’re reading applications from those schools. Target schools with black population, Hispanic population, Asian population. It’s going to be hard for them to maintain careful diversity like they do now. It’s going to be much more uneven and unpredictable.

Check out the colleges that are visiting your kid’s high school this fall. I noticed top universities coming to my kid’s schools…ones that would never recruit there normally..and I can only surmise it’s because we have a big Asian population.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so exaggerated.

My Asian kid had a good GPA and low test scores. Her ethnicity proved to be an advantage at the second tier small LAC’s she applied to (many of which were test optional). They often have trouble achieving the diverse community they seek.

Forget about the whole ethnicity angle and apply to schools that are a good fit for your son, and realistic given his credentials. Good luck!

Asians do fine at second and third tier schools, its top tier where they are pushed back.

That's universal for all non hooked kids. Seats are limited.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so exaggerated.

My Asian kid had a good GPA and low test scores. Her ethnicity proved to be an advantage at the second tier small LAC’s she applied to (many of which were test optional). They often have trouble achieving the diverse community they seek.

Forget about the whole ethnicity angle and apply to schools that are a good fit for your son, and realistic given his credentials. Good luck!

Asians do fine at second and third tier schools, its top tier where they are pushed back.

That's universal for all non hooked kids. Seats are limited.

I would say everyone is at a disadvantage except Asians.

A few years ago I got invited to speak at St. John’s university in Queens which I attended. Back when I went it was nearly all white Catholic Catholic kids who commute to the school. I also spoke at Baruch University in NYC which used to be very popular Jewish kids from NYC


My St. John’s lecture had 120 kids attend. 119 Asian kids. I saw one white girl. No other nationality

My Baruch Lecture around 150 kids, one Spanish and two black kids and 147 Asians.

They I spoke at a very low ranked community college in NYC and nearly all black.

No clue there the white people go to college in NY

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Anonymous wrote:Schools can no longer consider race.

Ok. Just go ask UCs if they do anything and they will say of course not, it is illegal. However, they have had an unwritten policy for decades to increase black student numbers and reduce Asian numbers. You just have to talk to former readers and admissions office employees. There was a huge NYT article on this few years ago.

This was before the US Supreme Ct decision

It was after California explicitly made it illegal decades ago.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools can no longer consider race.

Ok. Just go ask UCs if they do anything and they will say of course not, it is illegal. However, they have had an unwritten policy for decades to increase black student numbers and reduce Asian numbers. You just have to talk to former readers and admissions office employees. There was a huge NYT article on this few years ago.

That is the goal. But have you looked at the actual demographic numbers each year? There is no way they can significantly increase the number of black students because the pool isn’t there. Black students make up less than 6% of the CA population.

Unless it is a “learned sport” like golf, tennis where parents invested thousands of hours it is hard to get an athletic scholarship unless the right build

It also takes parental commitment. Both my parents were poorer immigrants who gave a rats ass about sports. Would not drive me, buy me sneakers or chip in. I also had to work part time.

Funny in college I was recruited to join the scholarship lacrosse team. I never played. Coach told me at six foot two inch, 195 pounds, in shape and you ran track weirdly I had the body for lacrosse. It was just defense on practice team and garbage time. But sports are a lot about physical skills. You can’t teach your kid to be six foot five inch 290 pounds and be able to run quick to get a football scholarship. Golf or tennis maybe.

We drove through Berkeley recently and it sure felt like anyone who wasn’t Asian was in the minority. Very few white or black faces anywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:My Asian boy gets good GPA in school but he does not do well in sports. I never see him study, but he is outside to play sports day and night. He has low muscle tone and average build, and that makes it more harder for him to do well in any sports. I wish he spends more time and effort into studies, but he does not listen to me.

My Asian girl does really poor in school and she has learning disabilities. I don't even know about her future. No matter how hard I push her to study, she gets passing score. I just hope that she can graduate & attend community college. She is into dance and singing, but there is no award/prize.

Change the last name to something that is not Asian sounding and leave the race box unchecked. Also, do not put any information on the application, essays etc. that can identify the applicant as Asian. It would be better if the last name sounded like a black person's last name.

If you lie on the application, the school will throw your DC out permanently. Why on earth would you suggest this?

not to defend PP's suggestion, but it didn't advocate lying.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Schools can no longer consider race.

Ok. Just go ask UCs if they do anything and they will say of course not, it is illegal. However, they have had an unwritten policy for decades to increase black student numbers and reduce Asian numbers. You just have to talk to former readers and admissions office employees. There was a huge NYT article on this few years ago.

This was before the US Supreme Ct decision

Anonymous wrote:Schools can no longer consider race.

Ok. Just go ask UCs if they do anything and they will say of course not, it is illegal. However, they have had an unwritten policy for decades to increase black student numbers and reduce Asian numbers. You just have to talk to former readers and admissions office employees. There was a huge NYT article on this few years ago.

Yes they are. Whites also have disadvantage these days. Especially males.