Anonymous
Post 09/26/2023 17:23     Subject: SWS - You are only invited if you’re Black
Anonymous wrote:We live in a country that assumes whiteness as the default or neutral standard and has a long history of enslaving, oppressing, disenfranchising, and excluding Black citizens and you are mad you can’t go to a school event? Black families can have this fun, safe place to just BE and it does not impact you.

I’m white mom at a school with 30-40% LatinX students. If the school wants to have an event for Spanish speaking families only and fund it with PTA money, I would not be upset or feel left out.


generally public institutions are not supposed to exclude based on race.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2023 17:23     Subject: Re:SWS - You are only invited if you’re Black
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are you so angry that black families are coming together to support each other? Is this hurting your child? Do you feel like you are lacking support? I know it sounds snarky, but I'm asking seriously.


+1! This is an affinity space for Black families to get to know each other. It’s not about exclusion of other races. Honestly, if you are not from a minority group (race, religion or ethnicity), I guess you just don’t get it.

—POC (not Black).


Should a public school school-sponsored event on school grounds exclude members of the school community on the basis of race?


Well there is Girls on the Run that is a school-sponsored activity based on gender. Are you also offended by that?


What if there was a school-sponsored event for parents of LBGTQ+ kids? Would you also be offended by that?


Would either school-sponsored event exclude members of the school community?

Are you against Girls on the Run?



Actually, GotR welcomes any student.



They do not and the FAQ on their website makes that explicitly clear.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2023 17:22     Subject: SWS - You are only invited if you’re Black
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: The announcement doesn't say anything about white people not being invited (unless I missed it?). It says the talks plan on focusing on a certain group. Anybody is welcome to come and participate as long as they are on topic.


Correct, it doesn't.


It does. It doesn’t say “whites are NOT invited”, but it says they are excited to invite “all families of children who identify as black.” If your child doesn’t identify as Black, you are not invited.


I honestly don't view this as anything different than having such an email for any other specialty group from parents of LGBTQ+ kids to parents of kids with special needs. Literally just don't care.


Most of the time those aren’t phrased in an exclusionary way, though.

Assuming this is legal, people are free to issue exclusionary invitations. But what they aren’t free to do is control other people’s reactions to being excluded, or be surprised when people react badly.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2023 17:20     Subject: Re:SWS - You are only invited if you’re Black
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are you so angry that black families are coming together to support each other? Is this hurting your child? Do you feel like you are lacking support? I know it sounds snarky, but I'm asking seriously.


+1! This is an affinity space for Black families to get to know each other. It’s not about exclusion of other races. Honestly, if you are not from a minority group (race, religion or ethnicity), I guess you just don’t get it.

—POC (not Black).


Should a public school school-sponsored event on school grounds exclude members of the school community on the basis of race?


Well there is Girls on the Run that is a school-sponsored activity based on gender. Are you also offended by that?


What if there was a school-sponsored event for parents of LBGTQ+ kids? Would you also be offended by that?


Would either school-sponsored event exclude members of the school community?

Are you against Girls on the Run?



Actually, GotR welcomes any student.

Anonymous
Post 09/26/2023 17:05     Subject: SWS - You are only invited if you’re Black
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This does sound strange, tbh. People who identify as Black and/or of African descent can be really different groups?? Do people of white South African descent count here?


Don’t be pedantic. They are being inclusive of mixed-race families whose children identify as Black.


They said people of African descent.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2023 17:05     Subject: SWS - You are only invited if you’re Black
Anonymous wrote:This does sound strange, tbh. People who identify as Black and/or of African descent can be really different groups?? Do people of white South African descent count here?


Don’t be pedantic. They are being inclusive of mixed-race families whose children identify as Black.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2023 17:03     Subject: Re:SWS - You are only invited if you’re Black
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are you so angry that black families are coming together to support each other? Is this hurting your child? Do you feel like you are lacking support? I know it sounds snarky, but I'm asking seriously.


+1! This is an affinity space for Black families to get to know each other. It’s not about exclusion of other races. Honestly, if you are not from a minority group (race, religion or ethnicity), I guess you just don’t get it.

—POC (not Black).


Should a public school school-sponsored event on school grounds exclude members of the school community on the basis of race?


Well there is Girls on the Run that is a school-sponsored activity based on gender. Are you also offended by that?


What if there was a school-sponsored event for parents of LBGTQ+ kids? Would you also be offended by that?


Would either school-sponsored event exclude members of the school community?

Are you against Girls on the Run?

Anonymous
Post 09/26/2023 17:03     Subject: SWS - You are only invited if you’re Black
We live in a country that assumes whiteness as the default or neutral standard and has a long history of enslaving, oppressing, disenfranchising, and excluding Black citizens and you are mad you can’t go to a school event? Black families can have this fun, safe place to just BE and it does not impact you.

I’m white mom at a school with 30-40% LatinX students. If the school wants to have an event for Spanish speaking families only and fund it with PTA money, I would not be upset or feel left out.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2023 16:59     Subject: Re:SWS - You are only invited if you’re Black
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are you so angry that black families are coming together to support each other? Is this hurting your child? Do you feel like you are lacking support? I know it sounds snarky, but I'm asking seriously.


+1! This is an affinity space for Black families to get to know each other. It’s not about exclusion of other races. Honestly, if you are not from a minority group (race, religion or ethnicity), I guess you just don’t get it.

—POC (not Black).


Should a public school school-sponsored event on school grounds exclude members of the school community on the basis of race?


Well there is Girls on the Run that is a school-sponsored activity based on gender. Are you also offended by that?


What if there was a school-sponsored event for parents of LBGTQ+ kids? Would you also be offended by that?


Would either school-sponsored event exclude members of the school community?



So then why don't you file a lawsuit against Girls on the Run under the same premise?

Anonymous
Post 09/26/2023 16:58     Subject: SWS - You are only invited if you’re Black
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: The announcement doesn't say anything about white people not being invited (unless I missed it?). It says the talks plan on focusing on a certain group. Anybody is welcome to come and participate as long as they are on topic.


Correct, it doesn't.


It does. It doesn’t say “whites are NOT invited”, but it says they are excited to invite “all families of children who identify as black.” If your child doesn’t identify as Black, you are not invited.


.... so what?


You don’t see a problem with that. I do.
*shrug*
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2023 16:56     Subject: SWS - You are only invited if you’re Black
I wonder what they’d do if a white South African family or an Egyptian family showed up.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2023 16:56     Subject: SWS - You are only invited if you’re Black
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: The announcement doesn't say anything about white people not being invited (unless I missed it?). It says the talks plan on focusing on a certain group. Anybody is welcome to come and participate as long as they are on topic.


Correct, it doesn't.


It does. It doesn’t say “whites are NOT invited”, but it says they are excited to invite “all families of children who identify as black.” If your child doesn’t identify as Black, you are not invited.


.... so what?
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2023 16:56     Subject: Re:SWS - You are only invited if you’re Black
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are you so angry that black families are coming together to support each other? Is this hurting your child? Do you feel like you are lacking support? I know it sounds snarky, but I'm asking seriously.


+1! This is an affinity space for Black families to get to know each other. It’s not about exclusion of other races. Honestly, if you are not from a minority group (race, religion or ethnicity), I guess you just don’t get it.

—POC (not Black).


Should a public school school-sponsored event on school grounds exclude members of the school community on the basis of race?


Well there is Girls on the Run that is a school-sponsored activity based on gender. Are you also offended by that?


What if there was a school-sponsored event for parents of LBGTQ+ kids? Would you also be offended by that?


Would either school-sponsored event exclude members of the school community?

Anonymous
Post 09/26/2023 16:55     Subject: SWS - You are only invited if you’re Black
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: The announcement doesn't say anything about white people not being invited (unless I missed it?). It says the talks plan on focusing on a certain group. Anybody is welcome to come and participate as long as they are on topic.


Correct, it doesn't.


It does. It doesn’t say “whites are NOT invited”, but it says they are excited to invite “all families of children who identify as black.” If your child doesn’t identify as Black, you are not invited.


I honestly don't view this as anything different than having such an email for any other specialty group from parents of LGBTQ+ kids to parents of kids with special needs. Literally just don't care.
Anonymous
Post 09/26/2023 16:54     Subject: SWS - You are only invited if you’re Black
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: The announcement doesn't say anything about white people not being invited (unless I missed it?). It says the talks plan on focusing on a certain group. Anybody is welcome to come and participate as long as they are on topic.


“We are excited to invite all families of children who identify as black…”



... and if it said families of children who identify as LGBTQ... ? Italian? Jewish? Children with dyslexia?