Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If 'Karen' isn't racist why is it always a white lady?

Because a single mother isn’t hurting anyone. . .

- except her kids, who will likely become social burdens the rest of us must pay for throughout their adult lives. Sorry if the facts are unpleasant to you.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it's just english.

It carries a connotation of loose, unwed black women

And what makes it racist is that all
Blake women are viewed this way.

What is a Blake women?

Anonymous wrote:If 'Karen' isn't racist why is it always a white lady?

Because a single mother isn’t hurting anyone. A Karen has usually inserted herself in a situation that doesn’t concern her as a way to flex her privilege.

Anonymous wrote:Yes. It means "baby's mama" in AAVE. The "'s" is dropped in AAVE, so you are using a term coined by black people to talk about a situation that is looked down on in our society.

Would you use this term at work? Obviously not. Why? Because it is a little offensive.

I thought the term baby momma/baby daddy originated in the African American community, and has now expanded to wider use.

Anonymous wrote:If 'Karen' isn't racist why is it always a white lady?

If I walked into a pta meeting full of white women and said "there's a bunch of Karens in here" yes, that's discriminatory and judging on appearance.
But, Karens come from all backgrounds. Yes, there is an over representation of entitled white Karens in our media despite there being many entitled just as awful minorities making life miserable for others. You can say the same about the representation of unwed mothers in media.

If 'Karen' isn't racist why is it always a white lady?

Neither Karen or baby mama are racist when used casually and matter of factly. When a political talking head uses it with a malicious tone to describe the married spouse in a black family, yes it is. It's not a phrase they would usually say and they are specifically being spiteful and obtuse about the implied meaning. Same with any racist using the term for anyone black unless it is ingrained in their vocabulary (then they'd just be racist without speaking in racist terms).
Calling Ivana or Marla baby mamas is offensive with spite but not racist as you don't suggest their failing is from their race but the actual meaning. A judgmental black person using it spitefully is not being racist, just offensive. And many use it without spite or offense.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:it's just english.

It carries a connotation of loose, unwed black women

And what makes it racist is that all
Blake women are viewed this way.

Anonymous wrote:If it is, so is "Karen."

Not even close comparison.

For one thing, “Karen” isn’t racist.

Anonymous wrote:it's just english.

It carries a connotation of loose, unwed black women

Anonymous wrote:I don't think the phrase "baby mama" is racist. It's classist. It's associated with trashy, low income people living in either the hood or the trailer park.

Same. It’s not racist, but it is classist.

Anonymous wrote:Nurse, ask the baby mama how long the child has shown symptoms.

Doctor, it's the baby daddy who brought the kid in and he said 3 days.

I don't think medical professionals have never used the terms at work but it would be very unusual and cheesy.

Pediatricians, schools, dentists, etc. routinely refer to everyone as Mom or Dad.

“Please fill out this paperwork, Mom.”

Nobody is calling anyone a Baby Mama in a professional setting. It’s a derogatory term meant to convey illegitimacy and immoral behavior. Despite its common use in urban music/culture, it’s not a good thing. Some subcultural norms are deemed low-class…by those with better judgment.

Nurse, ask the baby mama how long the child has shown symptoms.

Doctor, it's the baby daddy who brought the kid in and he said 3 days.

I don't think medical professionals have never used the terms at work but it would be very unusual and cheesy.

I don't think the phrase "baby mama" is racist. It's classist. It's associated with trashy, low income people living in either the hood or the trailer park.

Who cares?