Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP. You aren’t getting answers because I don’t think true moderates/independents believe you are actually moderate. You sound like a pretty died in the wool Democrat to me.
Most of the moderates and independents I have anecdotally talked with don’t think the parties are the same, which is one of the statements where you go wrong from the start. However, they perceive little value in voting for either party. I think there are a lot of people planning to sit the presidential election out.
The bottom line is that there isn't a single person who has responded here with any policy or other reason why anyone should vote for a republican.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP. You aren’t getting answers because I don’t think true moderates/independents believe you are actually moderate. You sound like a pretty died in the wool Democrat to me.
Most of the moderates and independents I have anecdotally talked with don’t think the parties are the same, which is one of the statements where you go wrong from the start. However, they perceive little value in voting for either party. I think there are a lot of people planning to sit the presidential election out.
The bottom line is that there isn't a single person who has responded here with any policy or other reason why anyone should vote for a republican.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP. You aren’t getting answers because I don’t think true moderates/independents believe you are actually moderate. You sound like a pretty died in the wool Democrat to me.
Most of the moderates and independents I have anecdotally talked with don’t think the parties are the same, which is one of the statements where you go wrong from the start. However, they perceive little value in voting for either party. I think there are a lot of people planning to sit the presidential election out.
The bottom line is that there isn't a single person who has responded here with any policy or other reason why anyone should vote for a republican.
Anonymous wrote:OP again, checking in while making supper.
So none of the people who said the GOP is the same thing as the Democrats has anything substantive to offer as to why I, a good and decent moderate American, should vote for the Republican Party? I’ve seen a few attempted bon mots about immigration, but I specifically said that’s less important to me and that anyway the GOP hasn’t done anything about it.
Still waiting on a single substantive answer. If both sides are the same, surely one of you can make the case for why I should give the GOP my vote over the Democratic Party.
Anonymous wrote:NP. You aren’t getting answers because I don’t think true moderates/independents believe you are actually moderate. You sound like a pretty died in the wool Democrat to me.
Most of the moderates and independents I have anecdotally talked with don’t think the parties are the same, which is one of the statements where you go wrong from the start. However, they perceive little value in voting for either party. I think there are a lot of people planning to sit the presidential election out.
Anonymous wrote:Somewhere along the way Republicans figured out that our system of government (and laws) relies on both parties acting in good faith and decided that their governing philosophy - to the extent they have one - would boil down to "screw you, I'm going to do what I want and you can't stop me". To that end, they've spent the last 60 years packing the courts and legislatures with morons whose only interest is villifying anyone who opposes them, by any means, and dumbing down our politics to a binary system.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:🦗 🦗🦗🦗🦗
OP here. No, I’m serious. If Republicans, Moderates and Independents are going to say that a vote for the Democrats and the Republicans are the same thing and will yield the same results, I want them to give me a real reason to vote for the GOP. How are my issues, which aren’t exactly niche, going to be addressed by the GOP?
Anonymous wrote:I’m an actual moderate American, which means I’ve always voted Democratic for my entire voting history, but I read a lot of people on here who claim to be either Independents or Moderates and they seem to think that the Democrats are as bad as the Republicans and that the Republicans are entitled to my vote. They’re constantly going on about how bad Biden is, but all I see is the GOP blocking action and actively damaging the country.
So here are my issues:
Abortion: never needed one, never sought one but this is my hill to die on. Forcing women to give birth and then punishing them forever with the child and absolutely zero help is unconscionable. Doing so based on one group’s religious beliefs not only makes women second class citizens, but it erases the Constitutionally demanded separation of church and state. How does the GOP square this with their claims of originalism and respecting the documents? Why should I, an intelligent woman, give my vote to the party that promises a national ban on abortion and teases a ban on birth control for good measure?
The American Experiment: I’m a flag waving dork for America. I love our goofy melting pot, I cry at naturalization ceremonies. I love my country. I love the promise of democracy. I love that the government isn’t supposed to ban books, that we are supposed to have the freedom of speech. What is the GOP doing to rectify their fascism/authoritarianism? Are they finally going to address all the ways they cheat at elections? Why should I, a proud American, have to wonder if they’re ever going to do the right thing in regards to getting the treason out of their party? (And are they ever going to do right by the military? I never see them actually support the military in anything other than the most trite way.)
The environment: global warming and habitat loss are real and neither is happening because of “natural cycles,” they’re happening because of human activity, and just a few big businesses are the most of that. Storms are getting bigger, droughts longer lasting, the pollinators and the birds are a fraction of what they were even a few years ago. The temperature keeps rising. If the GOP wants my vote, what are they going to do to ameliorate this? They’re the reason nothing has been done so far, so why should I give them my vote?
Two of the pet issues of the moderates and independents seem to be inflation and immigration but neither of those issues bothers me and if they were real issues, I don’t see the GOP offering any actual solutions.
So let me know, Republicans and so called moderates and independents, why does your party deserve my vote? Can you make a case for the GOP based on what’s important to me. And can you do it without whatabouting/“both sides”-ing?
Anonymous wrote:OP again, checking in while making supper.
So none of the people who said the GOP is the same thing as the Democrats has anything substantive to offer as to why I, a good and decent moderate American, should vote for the Republican Party? I’ve seen a few attempted bon mots about immigration, but I specifically said that’s less important to me and that anyway the GOP hasn’t done anything about it.
Still waiting on a single substantive answer. If both sides are the same, surely one of you can make the case for why I should give the GOP my vote over the Democratic Party.