Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 15:43     Subject: Re:Should graveyards be developed and future ones banned?
Anonymous wrote:I think the best place to start is to stop the push for RTO and encourage people to work from home. While the pandemic was a tragedy for humanity, the shutdowns significantly helped the environment. Let’s get more people out of the offices, which will reduce commutes and expenditures on office space while opening up buildings/land that can be used for housing, shops, and services.



Clearly no understanding of economics here. RTO must happen if cities and metropolitan areas are going to survive. Otherwise the service industries that underpin the economy will cease to exist.

Further there is no economic way to turn commercial real estate into condos and it is unlikely that more people will eat to live in decaying and poorly run cities.

Good try though.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 15:27     Subject: Re:Should graveyards be developed and future ones banned?
I think the best place to start is to stop the push for RTO and encourage people to work from home. While the pandemic was a tragedy for humanity, the shutdowns significantly helped the environment. Let’s get more people out of the offices, which will reduce commutes and expenditures on office space while opening up buildings/land that can be used for housing, shops, and services.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 11:50     Subject: Should graveyards be developed and future ones banned?
I agree that golf courses are much more problematic. You could solve the problem like Trump and just have combined golf courses / graveyards.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 11:19     Subject: Should graveyards be developed and future ones banned?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The estimated grand total amount of land dedicated to cemeteries nationwide is 140,000 acres, or 0.005% of America's land.

2 million acres of land are dedicated to golf courses, 14X the amount for cemeteries.

So in terms of land priorities, I'd say golf courses should be on the chopping block first. But another thought is that cemeteries could serve as green space. There's no reason why they need to be free of trees. It's not necessary to make them look like golf course fairways. Also historically they were not just places to inter bodies and occasionally drop flower wreaths. For example:



Yes people held picnics in cemeteries. They were a bit like park land.






It’s the placement of cemeteries though. So much land use in and around urban centers for the dead. It is a complete waste.

Vast portions of land in the US are undevelopable, so looking at total land area is useless. There are portions he size of Oregon in Alaska on which you cannot build anything because it is basically all marsh land in the middle of nowhere. Tons of other land has mountains, impossible to service with enough water, or the federal govt owns.


I’m not even sure that’s true. Most of the cemetery space in Midwest cities is in the burbs. Suburbs can grow by expanding out.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 10:47     Subject: Should graveyards be developed and future ones banned?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The estimated grand total amount of land dedicated to cemeteries nationwide is 140,000 acres, or 0.005% of America's land.

2 million acres of land are dedicated to golf courses, 14X the amount for cemeteries.

So in terms of land priorities, I'd say golf courses should be on the chopping block first. But another thought is that cemeteries could serve as green space. There's no reason why they need to be free of trees. It's not necessary to make them look like golf course fairways. Also historically they were not just places to inter bodies and occasionally drop flower wreaths. For example:



Yes people held picnics in cemeteries. They were a bit like park land.






It’s the placement of cemeteries though. So much land use in and around urban centers for the dead. It is a complete waste.

Vast portions of land in the US are undevelopable, so looking at total land area is useless. There are portions he size of Oregon in Alaska on which you cannot build anything because it is basically all marsh land in the middle of nowhere. Tons of other land has mountains, impossible to service with enough water, or the federal govt owns.


How about going after roads or federal park land?

https://ggwash.org/view/42387/dcs-43766-acres-25-roads-2-high-rises
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 09:50     Subject: Should graveyards be developed and future ones banned?
Anonymous wrote:The estimated grand total amount of land dedicated to cemeteries nationwide is 140,000 acres, or 0.005% of America's land.

2 million acres of land are dedicated to golf courses, 14X the amount for cemeteries.

So in terms of land priorities, I'd say golf courses should be on the chopping block first. But another thought is that cemeteries could serve as green space. There's no reason why they need to be free of trees. It's not necessary to make them look like golf course fairways. Also historically they were not just places to inter bodies and occasionally drop flower wreaths. For example:



Yes people held picnics in cemeteries. They were a bit like park land.






It’s the placement of cemeteries though. So much land use in and around urban centers for the dead. It is a complete waste.

Vast portions of land in the US are undevelopable, so looking at total land area is useless. There are portions he size of Oregon in Alaska on which you cannot build anything because it is basically all marsh land in the middle of nowhere. Tons of other land has mountains, impossible to service with enough water, or the federal govt owns.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 09:39     Subject: Should graveyards be developed and future ones banned?
I think this is actually a good idea, particularly in high density areas. Given the influx of our new immigrants, we can build the high density housing needed to place them in homes. We should also look at shrinking little used park land. There’s also the problematic issue of military facilities in this area. Four bases Fort Myer, Joint Base Anacostia-Bolling, Fort Belvoir, and MCB Quantico that occupy way too much land. People stationed there contribute little to the economy. We could do so much better in building affordable housing for this area’s residents should these dinosaurs move farther out or be consolidated in one place.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 08:56     Subject: Should graveyards be developed and future ones banned?
Anonymous wrote:The estimated grand total amount of land dedicated to cemeteries nationwide is 140,000 acres, or 0.005% of America's land.

2 million acres of land are dedicated to golf courses, 14X the amount for cemeteries.

So in terms of land priorities, I'd say golf courses should be on the chopping block first. But another thought is that cemeteries could serve as green space. There's no reason why they need to be free of trees. It's not necessary to make them look like golf course fairways. Also historically they were not just places to inter bodies and occasionally drop flower wreaths. For example:



Yes people held picnics in cemeteries. They were a bit like park land.





But golf courses serve a purpose. It's where your husband goes on the weekend so that you don't have to deal with him.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 07:08     Subject: Should graveyards be developed and future ones banned?
The estimated grand total amount of land dedicated to cemeteries nationwide is 140,000 acres, or 0.005% of America's land.

2 million acres of land are dedicated to golf courses, 14X the amount for cemeteries.

So in terms of land priorities, I'd say golf courses should be on the chopping block first. But another thought is that cemeteries could serve as green space. There's no reason why they need to be free of trees. It's not necessary to make them look like golf course fairways. Also historically they were not just places to inter bodies and occasionally drop flower wreaths. For example:



Yes people held picnics in cemeteries. They were a bit like park land.



Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 01:47     Subject: Re:Should graveyards be developed and future ones banned?
Anonymous wrote:I also agree with the OP.


Have your eye on a prime spot for your McMansion?
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2023 20:16     Subject: Re:Should graveyards be developed and future ones banned?
I also agree with the OP.
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2023 20:14     Subject: Should graveyards be developed and future ones banned?
Anonymous wrote:Are we only talking human cemeteries? What do we do about pet cemeteries?


This isn't a new idea.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2005/12/27/eternal-restlessness-over-md-pet-cemetery/af8029be-595d-4db3-84e6-c37346a14156/

My MIL was pretty upset about it.