Just to clarify, you mean they aim to have an undergraduate student body that is about 50% out of state, right?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son told me that his number 1 choice of school is UMich. He has never even been to Michigan. I’m wondering how hard it is given that it is a HUGE school. I can see it has a 20% acceptance rate.

If your son out of state? Try 8%.

They only take 4,000 or so out of state students.

I have a kid at Michigan. He got into several of his top choices (including UVA) but ultimately picked Michigan. I believe OOS admit rates are closer to 20% overall. Not surprising given the size of the school. Engineering and Ross are much lower given their profile (don't know specifics). They do aim to admit 50% out of state.

Standards are quite high. They don't give you AP credit unless you scored a 5, for example. It's also an expensive school. I suspect they use all the funds (OOS tuition and endowments) towards some equity BS so don't apply hoping for merit aid unless you fit some demographic profile (that I'm unaware of). While opportunities for research, internships and work are plenty, the school doesn't care whether you get them or not. It's upto the kid and it's quite competitive.

Interesting article about U of Michigan’s standards. Even a football player transferring from Stanford met with resistance.

https://fansided.com/posts/michigan-football-transfer-portal-struggles-credits

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Much easier for private school kids from this area to get in than public. I have never gotten the allure. There are other good public universities between here and there. Michigan winters are brutal.

That’s not true. If you look at the analysis that a pp posted Jackson Reed sent the most students in the DMV.

Those numbers are from 2019. Not even relevant in 2023

Because you have current data you'd like to share?

You don’t have to be rude.
Just pointing out that pre-pandemic college admissions statistics might as well be from 1980. But go ahead and get worked up about it.

Agree!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Much easier for private school kids from this area to get in than public. I have never gotten the allure. There are other good public universities between here and there. Michigan winters are brutal.

That’s not true. If you look at the analysis that a pp posted Jackson Reed sent the most students in the DMV.

Those numbers are from 2019. Not even relevant in 2023

Because you have current data you'd like to share?

You don’t have to be rude.
Just pointing out that pre-pandemic college admissions statistics might as well be from 1980. But go ahead and get worked up about it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Much easier for private school kids from this area to get in than public. I have never gotten the allure. There are other good public universities between here and there. Michigan winters are brutal.

That’s not true. If you look at the analysis that a pp posted Jackson Reed sent the most students in the DMV.

Those numbers are from 2019. Not even relevant in 2023

Because you have current data you'd like to share?

Michigan likes a high SAT score

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Much easier for private school kids from this area to get in than public. I have never gotten the allure. There are other good public universities between here and there. Michigan winters are brutal.

That’s not true. If you look at the analysis that a pp posted Jackson Reed sent the most students in the DMV.

Those numbers are from 2019. Not even relevant in 2023

Anonymous wrote:My son told me that his number 1 choice of school is UMich. He has never even been to Michigan. I’m wondering how hard it is given that it is a HUGE school. I can see it has a 20% acceptance rate.

If your son out of state? Try 8%.

They only take 4,000 or so out of state students.

Anonymous wrote:Needing close to Ivy level stats is the correct answer-and they value high test scores too.

My kid applied to LSA last year and was waitlisted. If memory serves something like 80% of the admitted students supplied test scores (it's in the CDS). This is not a place were TO will work for the average bear.

The term “brutal” should be reserved for winters like they have in places like Minnesota & North Dakota. Some people there put electric heaters on their cars’ engines to keep them from freezing (a practice unheard of in southeast Michigan). On a given winter day it’s not uncommon for it to be colder in some places in Minnesota or North Dakota than it is in some places in Alaska.

For context, the Canadian city directy across the river from Detroit is Windsor, Ontario. The University of Windsor used to try to ATTRACT students with its weather. It billed itself as “Canada’s southernmost university.”

My son was pleasantly surprised at how easy it was. He's was good student at a public school. He is doing great at Michigan.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In our neighborhood--it seems every other house has a kid there of headed there in the past 3-4 years. And these are students of varied academics--some average test optional and some high gpa/scores.

We have had way more kids get accepted to UMich than UVA or Georgetown. This is my anecdotal evidence from a close-in VA neighborhood.

OP here. I have 2 kids. One kid just said he wants to go to UMich. He is my younger son. My older son wants to go to UVA or Georgetown.

It is most definitely easier to get into UVA instate than Michigan out of state, this can be proven by looking at acceptance rates and common data sets, the particulars of your street notwithstanding. No one is getting in win average test optional unless they are an athletic recruit.

It used to be a safety for some, but that's no longer possible.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Much easier for private school kids from this area to get in than public. I have never gotten the allure. There are other good public universities between here and there. Michigan winters are brutal.

That’s not true. If you look at the analysis that a pp posted Jackson Reed sent the most students in the DMV.

But was this in absolute numbers or as a percentage of the class? At any rate, it's very competitive.