Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see all these posts about variations in grade inflation.
And California has gotten rid of standardized tests since they don't give the results they want.
It is to level the playing field across all socio-economic groups, which is a good thing.
Anonymous wrote:Interesting to see all these posts about variations in grade inflation.
And California has gotten rid of standardized tests since they don't give the results they want.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:California invested a shit ton of money into its public university system prior to California property tax reform in the late 70s. They took the top students from California, tuition free. I think that investment is still paying dividends.
The student surveys for UC schools on teaching and commitment to undergraduate education are not good relative to other public universities.
Do you have a source / link ? TIA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Strangest post on this forum in quite a while.
Let’s see where the Ca schools are in a decade after years of this test blind nonsense and rampant grade inflation in their k-12 system.
There is no grade inflation in public schools, you're taking a DMV problem and applying it to an areas you clearly have no experience with. We have kids in a Los Angeles HS and it is so much harder than it was at Whitman. Their grades are not just based on testing, they are based on contributions during class time, the content of their homework (not simply that it has been completed) and other projects. There's also a law that CA HS teachers can decide willy-nilly how to approach grading, without reproach. One teacher doesn't give an A in her class unless the kid is getting a 92% or higher. So they get a 90-91.75% and they have a B on their report card.
Grade inflation in California public schools has been well documented. Here’s just a few sources. https://www.ucop.edu/institutional-research-academic-planning/_files/grade-inflation-in-california-high-schools.pdf, https://reason.com/2023/01/11/los-angles-public-schools-are-increasingly-passing-students-who-dont-meet-grade-level-standards/; https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-12-22/la-student-reports-card-grades-are-high-test-scores-are-low-why-the-big-disconnect
Incredibly, post Covid, some CA public schools have done away with the grades of D and F. A C is the lowest possible grade at those schools. https://edsource.org/2021/why-some-california-school-districts-are-changing-how-students-earn-grades/664226. ; https://newsnationnow.com/us-news/west/why-some-california-schools-are-changing-student-grades/
Thanks for the links. It is interesting that what has been "documented" is not in our current experience at all.
NP. I’m another Californian and in our local public high school (which is huge), nearly half of last year’s seniors had over a 4.0 cumulative. It’s a serious issue because admissions was like a lottery last year, and the administration is talking about grade inflation as a very serious issue.
I think it varies from place to place. I know Santa Monica HS and Palisades High (and Beverley Hills High) are very likely candidates for grade inflation, while Burbank, Glendale, Pasadena & South Pasadena are not. If you're up in Silicon Valley I can similarly see that being a possible issue.
You can sometimes get a sense of the amount of grade inflation by looking at the published HS profile of the school. When 35% of a class of 800 has a GPA over 4.4, for instance, it is a serious issue.
That having been said, some public schools in CA have stopped publishing this data recently, possibly because it makes the school look bad.
Schools do publish a "profile" which tells you the colleges that kids got into, sometimes the % who are attending 4 year vs CC and things like that.
Yes, but sometimes those profiles include grade ranges. Like 20% of the senior class had a final GPA between 4.2 and 4.6. Some omit that, though.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Strangest post on this forum in quite a while.
Let’s see where the Ca schools are in a decade after years of this test blind nonsense and rampant grade inflation in their k-12 system.
There is no grade inflation in public schools, you're taking a DMV problem and applying it to an areas you clearly have no experience with. We have kids in a Los Angeles HS and it is so much harder than it was at Whitman. Their grades are not just based on testing, they are based on contributions during class time, the content of their homework (not simply that it has been completed) and other projects. There's also a law that CA HS teachers can decide willy-nilly how to approach grading, without reproach. One teacher doesn't give an A in her class unless the kid is getting a 92% or higher. So they get a 90-91.75% and they have a B on their report card.
Grade inflation in California public schools has been well documented. Here’s just a few sources. https://www.ucop.edu/institutional-research-academic-planning/_files/grade-inflation-in-california-high-schools.pdf, https://reason.com/2023/01/11/los-angles-public-schools-are-increasingly-passing-students-who-dont-meet-grade-level-standards/; https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-12-22/la-student-reports-card-grades-are-high-test-scores-are-low-why-the-big-disconnect
Incredibly, post Covid, some CA public schools have done away with the grades of D and F. A C is the lowest possible grade at those schools. https://edsource.org/2021/why-some-california-school-districts-are-changing-how-students-earn-grades/664226. ; https://newsnationnow.com/us-news/west/why-some-california-schools-are-changing-student-grades/
Thanks for the links. It is interesting that what has been "documented" is not in our current experience at all.
NP. I’m another Californian and in our local public high school (which is huge), nearly half of last year’s seniors had over a 4.0 cumulative. It’s a serious issue because admissions was like a lottery last year, and the administration is talking about grade inflation as a very serious issue.
I think it varies from place to place. I know Santa Monica HS and Palisades High (and Beverley Hills High) are very likely candidates for grade inflation, while Burbank, Glendale, Pasadena & South Pasadena are not. If you're up in Silicon Valley I can similarly see that being a possible issue.
You can sometimes get a sense of the amount of grade inflation by looking at the published HS profile of the school. When 35% of a class of 800 has a GPA over 4.4, for instance, it is a serious issue.
That having been said, some public schools in CA have stopped publishing this data recently, possibly because it makes the school look bad.
Schools do publish a "profile" which tells you the colleges that kids got into, sometimes the % who are attending 4 year vs CC and things like that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Strangest post on this forum in quite a while.
Let’s see where the Ca schools are in a decade after years of this test blind nonsense and rampant grade inflation in their k-12 system.
There is no grade inflation in public schools, you're taking a DMV problem and applying it to an areas you clearly have no experience with. We have kids in a Los Angeles HS and it is so much harder than it was at Whitman. Their grades are not just based on testing, they are based on contributions during class time, the content of their homework (not simply that it has been completed) and other projects. There's also a law that CA HS teachers can decide willy-nilly how to approach grading, without reproach. One teacher doesn't give an A in her class unless the kid is getting a 92% or higher. So they get a 90-91.75% and they have a B on their report card.
Grade inflation in California public schools has been well documented. Here’s just a few sources. https://www.ucop.edu/institutional-research-academic-planning/_files/grade-inflation-in-california-high-schools.pdf, https://reason.com/2023/01/11/los-angles-public-schools-are-increasingly-passing-students-who-dont-meet-grade-level-standards/; https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-12-22/la-student-reports-card-grades-are-high-test-scores-are-low-why-the-big-disconnect
Incredibly, post Covid, some CA public schools have done away with the grades of D and F. A C is the lowest possible grade at those schools. https://edsource.org/2021/why-some-california-school-districts-are-changing-how-students-earn-grades/664226. ; https://newsnationnow.com/us-news/west/why-some-california-schools-are-changing-student-grades/
Thanks for the links. It is interesting that what has been "documented" is not in our current experience at all.
NP. I’m another Californian and in our local public high school (which is huge), nearly half of last year’s seniors had over a 4.0 cumulative. It’s a serious issue because admissions was like a lottery last year, and the administration is talking about grade inflation as a very serious issue.
I think it varies from place to place. I know Santa Monica HS and Palisades High (and Beverley Hills High) are very likely candidates for grade inflation, while Burbank, Glendale, Pasadena & South Pasadena are not. If you're up in Silicon Valley I can similarly see that being a possible issue.
You can sometimes get a sense of the amount of grade inflation by looking at the published HS profile of the school. When 35% of a class of 800 has a GPA over 4.4, for instance, it is a serious issue.
That having been said, some public schools in CA have stopped publishing this data recently, possibly because it makes the school look bad.
Schools do publish a "profile" which tells you the colleges that kids got into, sometimes the % who are attending 4 year vs CC and things like that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Strangest post on this forum in quite a while.
Let’s see where the Ca schools are in a decade after years of this test blind nonsense and rampant grade inflation in their k-12 system.
There is no grade inflation in public schools, you're taking a DMV problem and applying it to an areas you clearly have no experience with. We have kids in a Los Angeles HS and it is so much harder than it was at Whitman. Their grades are not just based on testing, they are based on contributions during class time, the content of their homework (not simply that it has been completed) and other projects. There's also a law that CA HS teachers can decide willy-nilly how to approach grading, without reproach. One teacher doesn't give an A in her class unless the kid is getting a 92% or higher. So they get a 90-91.75% and they have a B on their report card.
Grade inflation in California public schools has been well documented. Here’s just a few sources. https://www.ucop.edu/institutional-research-academic-planning/_files/grade-inflation-in-california-high-schools.pdf, https://reason.com/2023/01/11/los-angles-public-schools-are-increasingly-passing-students-who-dont-meet-grade-level-standards/; https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-12-22/la-student-reports-card-grades-are-high-test-scores-are-low-why-the-big-disconnect
Incredibly, post Covid, some CA public schools have done away with the grades of D and F. A C is the lowest possible grade at those schools. https://edsource.org/2021/why-some-california-school-districts-are-changing-how-students-earn-grades/664226. ; https://newsnationnow.com/us-news/west/why-some-california-schools-are-changing-student-grades/
Thanks for the links. It is interesting that what has been "documented" is not in our current experience at all.
NP. I’m another Californian and in our local public high school (which is huge), nearly half of last year’s seniors had over a 4.0 cumulative. It’s a serious issue because admissions was like a lottery last year, and the administration is talking about grade inflation as a very serious issue.
I think it varies from place to place. I know Santa Monica HS and Palisades High (and Beverley Hills High) are very likely candidates for grade inflation, while Burbank, Glendale, Pasadena & South Pasadena are not. If you're up in Silicon Valley I can similarly see that being a possible issue.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Strangest post on this forum in quite a while.
Let’s see where the Ca schools are in a decade after years of this test blind nonsense and rampant grade inflation in their k-12 system.
There is no grade inflation in public schools, you're taking a DMV problem and applying it to an areas you clearly have no experience with. We have kids in a Los Angeles HS and it is so much harder than it was at Whitman. Their grades are not just based on testing, they are based on contributions during class time, the content of their homework (not simply that it has been completed) and other projects. There's also a law that CA HS teachers can decide willy-nilly how to approach grading, without reproach. One teacher doesn't give an A in her class unless the kid is getting a 92% or higher. So they get a 90-91.75% and they have a B on their report card.
Grade inflation in California public schools has been well documented. Here’s just a few sources. https://www.ucop.edu/institutional-research-academic-planning/_files/grade-inflation-in-california-high-schools.pdf, https://reason.com/2023/01/11/los-angles-public-schools-are-increasingly-passing-students-who-dont-meet-grade-level-standards/; https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-12-22/la-student-reports-card-grades-are-high-test-scores-are-low-why-the-big-disconnect
Incredibly, post Covid, some CA public schools have done away with the grades of D and F. A C is the lowest possible grade at those schools. https://edsource.org/2021/why-some-california-school-districts-are-changing-how-students-earn-grades/664226. ; https://newsnationnow.com/us-news/west/why-some-california-schools-are-changing-student-grades/
Thanks for the links. It is interesting that what has been "documented" is not in our current experience at all.
NP. I’m another Californian and in our local public high school (which is huge), nearly half of last year’s seniors had over a 4.0 cumulative. It’s a serious issue because admissions was like a lottery last year, and the administration is talking about grade inflation as a very serious issue.
I think it varies from place to place. I know Santa Monica HS and Palisades High (and Beverley Hills High) are very likely candidates for grade inflation, while Burbank, Glendale, Pasadena & South Pasadena are not. If you're up in Silicon Valley I can similarly see that being a possible issue.
You can sometimes get a sense of the amount of grade inflation by looking at the published HS profile of the school. When 35% of a class of 800 has a GPA over 4.4, for instance, it is a serious issue.
That having been said, some public schools in CA have stopped publishing this data recently, possibly because it makes the school look bad.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Strangest post on this forum in quite a while.
Let’s see where the Ca schools are in a decade after years of this test blind nonsense and rampant grade inflation in their k-12 system.
There is no grade inflation in public schools, you're taking a DMV problem and applying it to an areas you clearly have no experience with. We have kids in a Los Angeles HS and it is so much harder than it was at Whitman. Their grades are not just based on testing, they are based on contributions during class time, the content of their homework (not simply that it has been completed) and other projects. There's also a law that CA HS teachers can decide willy-nilly how to approach grading, without reproach. One teacher doesn't give an A in her class unless the kid is getting a 92% or higher. So they get a 90-91.75% and they have a B on their report card.
Grade inflation in California public schools has been well documented. Here’s just a few sources. https://www.ucop.edu/institutional-research-academic-planning/_files/grade-inflation-in-california-high-schools.pdf, https://reason.com/2023/01/11/los-angles-public-schools-are-increasingly-passing-students-who-dont-meet-grade-level-standards/; https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-12-22/la-student-reports-card-grades-are-high-test-scores-are-low-why-the-big-disconnect
Incredibly, post Covid, some CA public schools have done away with the grades of D and F. A C is the lowest possible grade at those schools. https://edsource.org/2021/why-some-california-school-districts-are-changing-how-students-earn-grades/664226. ; https://newsnationnow.com/us-news/west/why-some-california-schools-are-changing-student-grades/
Thanks for the links. It is interesting that what has been "documented" is not in our current experience at all.
NP. I’m another Californian and in our local public high school (which is huge), nearly half of last year’s seniors had over a 4.0 cumulative. It’s a serious issue because admissions was like a lottery last year, and the administration is talking about grade inflation as a very serious issue.
I think it varies from place to place. I know Santa Monica HS and Palisades High (and Beverley Hills High) are very likely candidates for grade inflation, while Burbank, Glendale, Pasadena & South Pasadena are not. If you're up in Silicon Valley I can similarly see that being a possible issue.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Strangest post on this forum in quite a while.
Let’s see where the Ca schools are in a decade after years of this test blind nonsense and rampant grade inflation in their k-12 system.
There is no grade inflation in public schools, you're taking a DMV problem and applying it to an areas you clearly have no experience with. We have kids in a Los Angeles HS and it is so much harder than it was at Whitman. Their grades are not just based on testing, they are based on contributions during class time, the content of their homework (not simply that it has been completed) and other projects. There's also a law that CA HS teachers can decide willy-nilly how to approach grading, without reproach. One teacher doesn't give an A in her class unless the kid is getting a 92% or higher. So they get a 90-91.75% and they have a B on their report card.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Strangest post on this forum in quite a while.
Let’s see where the Ca schools are in a decade after years of this test blind nonsense and rampant grade inflation in their k-12 system.
There is no grade inflation in public schools, you're taking a DMV problem and applying it to an areas you clearly have no experience with. We have kids in a Los Angeles HS and it is so much harder than it was at Whitman. Their grades are not just based on testing, they are based on contributions during class time, the content of their homework (not simply that it has been completed) and other projects. There's also a law that CA HS teachers can decide willy-nilly how to approach grading, without reproach. One teacher doesn't give an A in her class unless the kid is getting a 92% or higher. So they get a 90-91.75% and they have a B on their report card.
Grade inflation in California public schools has been well documented. Here’s just a few sources. https://www.ucop.edu/institutional-research-academic-planning/_files/grade-inflation-in-california-high-schools.pdf, https://reason.com/2023/01/11/los-angles-public-schools-are-increasingly-passing-students-who-dont-meet-grade-level-standards/; https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-12-22/la-student-reports-card-grades-are-high-test-scores-are-low-why-the-big-disconnect
Incredibly, post Covid, some CA public schools have done away with the grades of D and F. A C is the lowest possible grade at those schools. https://edsource.org/2021/why-some-california-school-districts-are-changing-how-students-earn-grades/664226. ; https://newsnationnow.com/us-news/west/why-some-california-schools-are-changing-student-grades/
Thanks for the links. It is interesting that what has been "documented" is not in our current experience at all.
NP. I’m another Californian and in our local public high school (which is huge), nearly half of last year’s seniors had over a 4.0 cumulative. It’s a serious issue because admissions was like a lottery last year, and the administration is talking about grade inflation as a very serious issue.
I think it varies from place to place. I know Santa Monica HS and Palisades High (and Beverley Hills High) are very likely candidates for grade inflation, while Burbank, Glendale, Pasadena & South Pasadena are not. If you're up in Silicon Valley I can similarly see that being a possible issue.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Strangest post on this forum in quite a while.
Let’s see where the Ca schools are in a decade after years of this test blind nonsense and rampant grade inflation in their k-12 system.
There is no grade inflation in public schools, you're taking a DMV problem and applying it to an areas you clearly have no experience with. We have kids in a Los Angeles HS and it is so much harder than it was at Whitman. Their grades are not just based on testing, they are based on contributions during class time, the content of their homework (not simply that it has been completed) and other projects. There's also a law that CA HS teachers can decide willy-nilly how to approach grading, without reproach. One teacher doesn't give an A in her class unless the kid is getting a 92% or higher. So they get a 90-91.75% and they have a B on their report card.
Grade inflation in California public schools has been well documented. Here’s just a few sources. https://www.ucop.edu/institutional-research-academic-planning/_files/grade-inflation-in-california-high-schools.pdf, https://reason.com/2023/01/11/los-angles-public-schools-are-increasingly-passing-students-who-dont-meet-grade-level-standards/; https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-12-22/la-student-reports-card-grades-are-high-test-scores-are-low-why-the-big-disconnect
Incredibly, post Covid, some CA public schools have done away with the grades of D and F. A C is the lowest possible grade at those schools. https://edsource.org/2021/why-some-california-school-districts-are-changing-how-students-earn-grades/664226. ; https://newsnationnow.com/us-news/west/why-some-california-schools-are-changing-student-grades/
Thanks for the links. It is interesting that what has been "documented" is not in our current experience at all.
NP. I’m another Californian and in our local public high school (which is huge), nearly half of last year’s seniors had over a 4.0 cumulative. It’s a serious issue because admissions was like a lottery last year, and the administration is talking about grade inflation as a very serious issue.
Anonymous wrote:If I lived in CA, UC would be the only way to go with the instate tuition benefits.
Living OOS though, there is no way in hell the OOS costs are worth the underfunded overcrowded experience. maybe if the OOS costs were half what they are?…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Strangest post on this forum in quite a while.
Let’s see where the Ca schools are in a decade after years of this test blind nonsense and rampant grade inflation in their k-12 system.
There is no grade inflation in public schools, you're taking a DMV problem and applying it to an areas you clearly have no experience with. We have kids in a Los Angeles HS and it is so much harder than it was at Whitman. Their grades are not just based on testing, they are based on contributions during class time, the content of their homework (not simply that it has been completed) and other projects. There's also a law that CA HS teachers can decide willy-nilly how to approach grading, without reproach. One teacher doesn't give an A in her class unless the kid is getting a 92% or higher. So they get a 90-91.75% and they have a B on their report card.
Grade inflation in California public schools has been well documented. Here’s just a few sources. https://www.ucop.edu/institutional-research-academic-planning/_files/grade-inflation-in-california-high-schools.pdf, https://reason.com/2023/01/11/los-angles-public-schools-are-increasingly-passing-students-who-dont-meet-grade-level-standards/; https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-12-22/la-student-reports-card-grades-are-high-test-scores-are-low-why-the-big-disconnect
Incredibly, post Covid, some CA public schools have done away with the grades of D and F. A C is the lowest possible grade at those schools. https://edsource.org/2021/why-some-california-school-districts-are-changing-how-students-earn-grades/664226. ; https://newsnationnow.com/us-news/west/why-some-california-schools-are-changing-student-grades/
Thanks for the links. It is interesting that what has been "documented" is not in our current experience at all.