Anonymous wrote:It seems impossible for a grown adult not to understand this.

You really would think but here we are…

Out of state with a scholarship was cheaper than our top in-state schools.

Our state doesn’t care about retaining top students or making education affordable so my kid went next door.

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Anonymous wrote:Usually because they can’t get into UVA. Then they lie to themselves and others and say they wanted an “out of state experience.”

Not really. UVA is the #42 best undergrad engineering program in the US. So many other OOS flagships are much better. DC attends an OOS university and was accepted to UVA.

That includes most STEM majors at UVA as well. It’s funny how quickly UVA boosters dismiss the relative weakness of the hard science disciplines at their school. Then they try to tell others that want more highly ranked departments at OOS publics that they’re only going there because they couldn’t get into the flagship. If I want a top Engineering program that I can find and I live in Virginia, I am going out of state to the best school I can afford whether it be public or private. This nonsense about being not worth it to go to any OOS public is ridiculous.

It’s just too bad that Virginia’s flagship can’t accommodate enough of their own top instate students. All other highly ranked publics take in many more instate students than UVA. Virginia residents should have insisted that the state grew the UVA years ago.

Anonymous wrote:Usually because they can’t get into UVA. Then they lie to themselves and others and say they wanted an “out of state experience.”

Not really. UVA is the #42 best undergrad engineering program in the US. So many other OOS flagships are much better. DC attends an OOS university and was accepted to UVA.

Anonymous wrote:Didn't get into our big state school but another state offered admission.

EXACTLY. Thanks for stating the obvious. At times the college forum is like a Trump rally. Folks refuse to admit the obvious even when it’s staring them squarely in the face.

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Anonymous wrote:Usually because they can’t get into UVA. Then they lie to themselves and others and say they wanted an “out of state experience.”

Not everyone wants to go to UVA.
We are in Virginia and my senior won't even be applying to UVA. We visited over the summer and our experience was awful. Our visit to Old Dominion University last fall was actually an OUTSTANDING experience. Based on our two experiences I have no idea why UVA has a better reputation.

Look, I’m sorry. Nobody with a chance at UVA admission also visits ODU. THAT’S why you’ve decided UVA is awful and ODU is outstanding. You’re fooling no one but yourself. Let’s not do this again, ok?

Go ahead and believe that if it makes you feel better.

NP here. PP is right and you are being obtuse. Deliberately, most likely. The two schools have nothing in common in terms of prestige, environment, programs of study, or rigor. One is Uber competitive admissions and the other accepts 96% of applicants.

This doesn’t mean they aren’t both fine schools. It just means their target applicant pools are wildly different.

“I hated UVA so I’m going to ODU.” Said no one ever.

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Anonymous wrote:OOS public - often $50-$60K
Private - $80-90K and rising

Some kids want to try living in another state - spread their wings a bit. OOS public is much more affordable for many than private.

The average private university cost of attendance is $55,000. Not 80-90 and rising.

NP but ALL the private universities DS was interested in were 85K and up. They were in large cities and cost of living probably came into it.
We're talking about sticker price, because aid is never a given.

Anonymous wrote:It seems impossible for a grown adult not to understand this.

+1 WTH is with these threads?! In the college forum, no less.

Didn't get into our big state school but another state offered admission.

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Anonymous wrote:Usually because they can’t get into UVA. Then they lie to themselves and others and say they wanted an “out of state experience.”

Not UVA, but ds was waitlisted at Tech despite having stats > their 75th percentile.

And that’s why he’s going out of state. Right?

Anonymous wrote:San Diego State isn't that expensive for OOS students and it's in Southern California and ranks ok. What's not to like about that?

CSU schools aren't worth it OOS.

-signed a CSU grad

Anonymous wrote:Usually because they can’t get into UVA. Then they lie to themselves and others and say they wanted an “out of state experience.”

Not UVA, but ds was waitlisted at Tech despite having stats > their 75th percentile.

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Anonymous wrote:Usually because they can’t get into UVA. Then they lie to themselves and others and say they wanted an “out of state experience.”

Not everyone wants to go to UVA.
We are in Virginia and my senior won't even be applying to UVA. We visited over the summer and our experience was awful. Our visit to Old Dominion University last fall was actually an OUTSTANDING experience. Based on our two experiences I have no idea why UVA has a better reputation.

Look, I’m sorry. Nobody with a chance at UVA admission also visits ODU. THAT’S why you’ve decided UVA is awful and ODU is outstanding. You’re fooling no one but yourself. Let’s not do this again, ok?

Go ahead and believe that if it makes you feel better.

NP here. PP is right and you are being obtuse. Deliberately, most likely. The two schools have nothing in common in terms of prestige, environment, programs of study, or rigor. One is Uber competitive admissions and the other accepts 96% of applicants.

This doesn’t mean they aren’t both fine schools. It just means their target applicant pools are wildly different.

San Diego State isn't that expensive for OOS students and it's in Southern California and ranks ok. What's not to like about that?