Anonymous
08/26/2023 08:44
Subject: If your child got into a T25 in the last 2 years
Are all of these posts full-pay?
Anonymous
08/26/2023 08:43
Subject: If your child got into a T25 in the last 2 years
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:- what were their stats
- did they apply Test Optional
- did they have a hook (athletic recruit, first gen etc)
- did they apply ED
Just trying to understand what’s really possible. Our school’s SCOIR data includes students from many years ago.
4.1 gpa
act only
no hook
noED
HS sports, theater, a job, vounteer
At Duke now
Wow. That is remarkable.
Yeah, there’s some pieces missing.
Anonymous
08/26/2023 08:40
Subject: If your child got into a T25 in the last 2 years
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All A's in FCPS - 14 AP's or DE or post AP even than you will not have a 4.7 GPA. So STOP provided imaginary GPA's here
9th Grade - 4.28 WGPA after 9th
Language 1: 4
English Honors 9: 4.5
PE: 4
Music: 4
Biology Honors: 4.5
Algebra II honors: 4.5
World History honors: 4.5
10 Grade - 4.39 WGPA
Language 2: 4
English Honors 10: 4.5
PE: 4
AP Biology: 5
Chemistry Honors: 4.5
Pre-Cal honors: 4.5
AP World History honors: 5
11 Grade - 4.52 WGPA
Language 3: 4
AP English: 5
AP CS: 5
AP Chemistry: 5
Physics Honors: 4.5
AP Cal BC: 5
AP Economics: 5
12 Grade - 4.64 WGPA
AP Language: 5
AP English: 5
AP Physics: 5
AP Biology: 5
Multi Var Cal honors: 5
AP US History: 5
DE CS: 5
You can have a higher GPA by taking college courses during summer as my DD did or during the school year. Also if you are in a Governor’s school. DD’s best friend entered UVA as a second year student because she had over 65 credits and a 6.5 GPA. She was first in her class and Governor’s school. She was graduated from UVA in three years. Now in a T14 law school.
Most kids start language in 8th though in FCPS and that is unweighted so lowers the gpa even more.
Anonymous
08/26/2023 08:29
Subject: If your child got into a T25 in the last 2 years
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:- what were their stats
- did they apply Test Optional
- did they have a hook (athletic recruit, first gen etc)
- did they apply ED
Just trying to understand what’s really possible. Our school’s SCOIR data includes students from many years ago.
How about this, tell us your kid's stats and we will tell you if it is possible.
+1. Much faster. Give us your kid's stats as well as what state they are in and what type of school they are attending (public, independent, parochial). We will chance them.
Ok
4.0 UW / 4.7 W
1560 SAT (one time , no superscore)
5s on AP exams taken so far
12 APs , plus 2 years post BC Calc math (multi var calc and DifEq / linear Alg)
4 years varsity in one sport (but not recruited)
National qualifier in an academic Ec
Exceptional ECs in 2 areas w lots of initiative/ leadership and service
M or F
Interested in STEM or nonSTEM
The stats are high enough…no college cares about a 1600 vs a 1560.
If M and non-STEM, competitive at any school.
There is no such thing as Exceptional ECs…there are “real” ECs like competitive debate and BS ECs like Honor Society. Tons that are in between at which a kid can do exceptional things even though the EC is nothing unusual.
Female
Real ECs - like debate , robotics , service, research, sports
Has diverse interests - could be STEM plus something non-STEM
Real ECs? People have gone bat sh*t crazy around here. Truly.
STEM for females has much higher admission chances, in general.
This isn’t true. At least two thirds of the students at my 2023 dd’s all girls school applied as stem majors. I imagine that is representative of girls everywhere.
Ok…talking CS, engineering and physics vs hard sciences like biology and neuroscience.
The numbers for the above still heavily skew male, but colleges still try to hit a 50/50 mix.
I can attest at my kid’s coed school that only maybe 10% of the girls’ declared intended major were CS or engineering.
Anonymous
08/26/2023 00:34
Subject: If your child got into a T25 in the last 2 years
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:- what were their stats
- did they apply Test Optional
- did they have a hook (athletic recruit, first gen etc)
- did they apply ED
Just trying to understand what’s really possible. Our school’s SCOIR data includes students from many years ago.
How about this, tell us your kid's stats and we will tell you if it is possible.
+1. Much faster. Give us your kid's stats as well as what state they are in and what type of school they are attending (public, independent, parochial). We will chance them.
Ok
4.0 UW / 4.7 W
1560 SAT (one time , no superscore)
5s on AP exams taken so far
12 APs , plus 2 years post BC Calc math (multi var calc and DifEq / linear Alg)
4 years varsity in one sport (but not recruited)
National qualifier in an academic Ec
Exceptional ECs in 2 areas w lots of initiative/ leadership and service
NP.. my DC had higher stats, but they were rejected at T25.
It's the essays. There are a gazillion students with great stats.
The essays are where it's at. It's the chance to shine. Some rise to the occasion. Some don't. It's the only place where you can get a an app reader to argue for you at the table. People ignore that at their peril.
Or it's just chance?
Nah. People really underestimating the power of a good essay.
Pretty sure that's how mine got into a top school. Had the grades and the test scores. But the essay was kick-ass. It was really funny and self-deprecating. It totally rocked.
Good writing generally corresponds with good thinking. It's the one spot where applicants can distinguish themselves. And don't even think about using AI or tutors. Readers can sense BS from a mile away
Essays. The dirty secret.
I think you are overestimate acting the impact of the essay, most admissions officers admit it has little impact on admissions decisions unless it is bade enough to eliminate a candidate.
+1. Most admissions officers will tell you that the essays aren’t even read until an application passes through several stages of “readers” who are looking for requisite GPAs, test scores, rank, ECs, etc. Only when the application makes it to the regional reps are essays read. Think about it -a small public admissions office like UVA can’t possibly read 54,000 multiple essays. Time reading essays is not going to be wasted on applicants who don’t meet what the school needs a looking on other criteria.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 23:55
Subject: If your child got into a T25 in the last 2 years
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:- what were their stats
- did they apply Test Optional
- did they have a hook (athletic recruit, first gen etc)
- did they apply ED
Just trying to understand what’s really possible. Our school’s SCOIR data includes students from many years ago.
How about this, tell us your kid's stats and we will tell you if it is possible.
+1. Much faster. Give us your kid's stats as well as what state they are in and what type of school they are attending (public, independent, parochial). We will chance them.
Ok
4.0 UW / 4.7 W
1560 SAT (one time , no superscore)
5s on AP exams taken so far
12 APs , plus 2 years post BC Calc math (multi var calc and DifEq / linear Alg)
4 years varsity in one sport (but not recruited)
National qualifier in an academic Ec
Exceptional ECs in 2 areas w lots of initiative/ leadership and service
M or F
Interested in STEM or nonSTEM
The stats are high enough…no college cares about a 1600 vs a 1560.
If M and non-STEM, competitive at any school.
There is no such thing as Exceptional ECs…there are “real” ECs like competitive debate and BS ECs like Honor Society. Tons that are in between at which a kid can do exceptional things even though the EC is nothing unusual.
Female
Real ECs - like debate , robotics , service, research, sports
Has diverse interests - could be STEM plus something non-STEM
Real ECs? People have gone bat sh*t crazy around here. Truly.
STEM for females has much higher admission chances, in general.
This isn’t true. At least two thirds of the students at my 2023 dd’s all girls school applied as stem majors. I imagine that is representative of girls everywhere.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 23:52
Subject: If your child got into a T25 in the last 2 years
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:- what were their stats
- did they apply Test Optional
- did they have a hook (athletic recruit, first gen etc)
- did they apply ED
Just trying to understand what’s really possible. Our school’s SCOIR data includes students from many years ago.
How about this, tell us your kid's stats and we will tell you if it is possible.
+1. Much faster. Give us your kid's stats as well as what state they are in and what type of school they are attending (public, independent, parochial). We will chance them.
Ok
4.0 UW / 4.7 W
1560 SAT (one time , no superscore)
5s on AP exams taken so far
12 APs , plus 2 years post BC Calc math (multi var calc and DifEq / linear Alg)
4 years varsity in one sport (but not recruited)
National qualifier in an academic Ec
Exceptional ECs in 2 areas w lots of initiative/ leadership and service
NP.. my DC had higher stats, but they were rejected at T25.
It's the essays. There are a gazillion students with great stats.
The essays are where it's at. It's the chance to shine. Some rise to the occasion. Some don't. It's the only place where you can get a an app reader to argue for you at the table. People ignore that at their peril.
Or it's just chance?
Nah. People really underestimating the power of a good essay.
Pretty sure that's how mine got into a top school. Had the grades and the test scores. But the essay was kick-ass. It was really funny and self-deprecating. It totally rocked.
Good writing generally corresponds with good thinking. It's the one spot where applicants can distinguish themselves. And don't even think about using AI or tutors. Readers can sense BS from a mile away
Essays. The dirty secret.
I think you are overestimate acting the impact of the essay, most admissions officers admit it has little impact on admissions decisions unless it is bade enough to eliminate a candidate.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 23:07
Subject: If your child got into a T25 in the last 2 years
Male
4.0 (top the private gives)
Valedictorian
35 ACT/36 on retry submitted
Eagle Scout, Boys Nation; congressional intern; class president
College courses taken during summers at NVCC in the sciences with As
Applied for aerospace engineering to Princeton. (SCEA), Georgia Tech (EA), Purdue, UVA, got in all three state schools EA, deferred on SCEA to Princeton. Then went for selected Ivies for RD where he had legacy status or thought he had a shot at engineering. Waitlisted.
4.0 (top the private gives)
Valedictorian
35 ACT/36 on retry submitted
Eagle Scout, Boys Nation; congressional intern; class president
College courses taken during summers at NVCC in the sciences with As
Applied for aerospace engineering to Princeton. (SCEA), Georgia Tech (EA), Purdue, UVA, got in all three state schools EA, deferred on SCEA to Princeton. Then went for selected Ivies for RD where he had legacy status or thought he had a shot at engineering. Waitlisted.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 22:58
Subject: If your child got into a T25 in the last 2 years
Anonymous wrote:All A's in FCPS - 14 AP's or DE or post AP even than you will not have a 4.7 GPA. So STOP provided imaginary GPA's here
9th Grade - 4.28 WGPA after 9th
Language 1: 4
English Honors 9: 4.5
PE: 4
Music: 4
Biology Honors: 4.5
Algebra II honors: 4.5
World History honors: 4.5
10 Grade - 4.39 WGPA
Language 2: 4
English Honors 10: 4.5
PE: 4
AP Biology: 5
Chemistry Honors: 4.5
Pre-Cal honors: 4.5
AP World History honors: 5
11 Grade - 4.52 WGPA
Language 3: 4
AP English: 5
AP CS: 5
AP Chemistry: 5
Physics Honors: 4.5
AP Cal BC: 5
AP Economics: 5
12 Grade - 4.64 WGPA
AP Language: 5
AP English: 5
AP Physics: 5
AP Biology: 5
Multi Var Cal honors: 5
AP US History: 5
DE CS: 5
You can have a higher GPA by taking college courses during summer as my DD did or during the school year. Also if you are in a Governor’s school. DD’s best friend entered UVA as a second year student because she had over 65 credits and a 6.5 GPA. She was first in her class and Governor’s school. She was graduated from UVA in three years. Now in a T14 law school.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 21:26
Subject: If your child got into a T25 in the last 2 years
In at 4 of 5 T25 applied to
4.0 UW / 5.2 Weighted - Salutatorian
35 ACT
no hooks
no ED
female STEM kid. 14 APs. 3 season Varsity athlete, strong additional ECs w/ leadership.
4.0 UW / 5.2 Weighted - Salutatorian
35 ACT
no hooks
no ED
female STEM kid. 14 APs. 3 season Varsity athlete, strong additional ECs w/ leadership.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 20:09
Subject: If your child got into a T25 in the last 2 years
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:- what were their stats
- did they apply Test Optional
- did they have a hook (athletic recruit, first gen etc)
- did they apply ED
Just trying to understand what’s really possible. Our school’s SCOIR data includes students from many years ago.
How about this, tell us your kid's stats and we will tell you if it is possible.
+1. Much faster. Give us your kid's stats as well as what state they are in and what type of school they are attending (public, independent, parochial). We will chance them.
Ok
4.0 UW / 4.7 W
1560 SAT (one time , no superscore)
5s on AP exams taken so far
12 APs , plus 2 years post BC Calc math (multi var calc and DifEq / linear Alg)
4 years varsity in one sport (but not recruited)
National qualifier in an academic Ec
Exceptional ECs in 2 areas w lots of initiative/ leadership and service
Example of why this kind of thread is pointless. My kid had similar stats but is a Majority Male CS applicant and was not admitted to any T15.
You know what though, he is at a T15 for CS with a scholarship so I guess all is not lost.
Not lost indeed! Congrats to your DS.
Thanks, I was kind of being sarcastic. It's such a shame the way this college process and everyone's obsession with T10-15 makes many kids feel like they fell short.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 20:05
Subject: If your child got into a T25 in the last 2 years
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:- what were their stats
- did they apply Test Optional
- did they have a hook (athletic recruit, first gen etc)
- did they apply ED
Just trying to understand what’s really possible. Our school’s SCOIR data includes students from many years ago.
How about this, tell us your kid's stats and we will tell you if it is possible.
+1. Much faster. Give us your kid's stats as well as what state they are in and what type of school they are attending (public, independent, parochial). We will chance them.
Ok
4.0 UW / 4.7 W
1560 SAT (one time , no superscore)
5s on AP exams taken so far
12 APs , plus 2 years post BC Calc math (multi var calc and DifEq / linear Alg)
4 years varsity in one sport (but not recruited)
National qualifier in an academic Ec
Exceptional ECs in 2 areas w lots of initiative/ leadership and service
NP.. my DC had higher stats, but they were rejected at T25.
It's the essays. There are a gazillion students with great stats.
The essays are where it's at. It's the chance to shine. Some rise to the occasion. Some don't. It's the only place where you can get a an app reader to argue for you at the table. People ignore that at their peril.
Or it's just chance?
Nah. People really underestimating the power of a good essay.
Pretty sure that's how mine got into a top school. Had the grades and the test scores. But the essay was kick-ass. It was really funny and self-deprecating. It totally rocked.
Good writing generally corresponds with good thinking. It's the one spot where applicants can distinguish themselves. And don't even think about using AI or tutors. Readers can sense BS from a mile away
Essays. The dirty secret.
The essays are certainly important. The other important thing I'd mention is having recommendations that speak to EC passion and intellectual curiosity. A "got an A+ and is among the top 5% of my students academically" type of rec just isn't sufficient when everyone will have that at top schools.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 20:01
Subject: If your child got into a T25 in the last 2 years
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:- what were their stats
- did they apply Test Optional
- did they have a hook (athletic recruit, first gen etc)
- did they apply ED
Just trying to understand what’s really possible. Our school’s SCOIR data includes students from many years ago.
How about this, tell us your kid's stats and we will tell you if it is possible.
+1. Much faster. Give us your kid's stats as well as what state they are in and what type of school they are attending (public, independent, parochial). We will chance them.
Ok
4.0 UW / 4.7 W
1560 SAT (one time , no superscore)
5s on AP exams taken so far
12 APs , plus 2 years post BC Calc math (multi var calc and DifEq / linear Alg)
4 years varsity in one sport (but not recruited)
National qualifier in an academic Ec
Exceptional ECs in 2 areas w lots of initiative/ leadership and service
NP.. my DC had higher stats, but they were rejected at T25.
It's the essays. There are a gazillion students with great stats.
The essays are where it's at. It's the chance to shine. Some rise to the occasion. Some don't. It's the only place where you can get a an app reader to argue for you at the table. People ignore that at their peril.
Or it's just chance?
Nah. People really underestimating the power of a good essay.
Pretty sure that's how mine got into a top school. Had the grades and the test scores. But the essay was kick-ass. It was really funny and self-deprecating. It totally rocked.
Good writing generally corresponds with good thinking. It's the one spot where applicants can distinguish themselves. And don't even think about using AI or tutors. Readers can sense BS from a mile away
Essays. The dirty secret.
Well since that's all subjective we will never know will we. I know of several kids who had their essays heavily edited or written by outside parties. So there is that too.
Anonymous
08/25/2023 19:58
Subject: Re:If your child got into a T25 in the last 2 years
You guys are reporting the weighted GPA after junior year, right? And not after graduating?
Anonymous
08/25/2023 18:48
Subject: If your child got into a T25 in the last 2 years
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:- what were their stats
- did they apply Test Optional
- did they have a hook (athletic recruit, first gen etc)
- did they apply ED
Just trying to understand what’s really possible. Our school’s SCOIR data includes students from many years ago.
How about this, tell us your kid's stats and we will tell you if it is possible.
+1. Much faster. Give us your kid's stats as well as what state they are in and what type of school they are attending (public, independent, parochial). We will chance them.
Ok
4.0 UW / 4.7 W
1560 SAT (one time , no superscore)
5s on AP exams taken so far
12 APs , plus 2 years post BC Calc math (multi var calc and DifEq / linear Alg)
4 years varsity in one sport (but not recruited)
National qualifier in an academic Ec
Exceptional ECs in 2 areas w lots of initiative/ leadership and service
NP.. my DC had higher stats, but they were rejected at T25.
It's the essays. There are a gazillion students with great stats.
The essays are where it's at. It's the chance to shine. Some rise to the occasion. Some don't. It's the only place where you can get a an app reader to argue for you at the table. People ignore that at their peril.
Or it's just chance?
Nah. People really underestimating the power of a good essay.
Pretty sure that's how mine got into a top school. Had the grades and the test scores. But the essay was kick-ass. It was really funny and self-deprecating. It totally rocked.
Good writing generally corresponds with good thinking. It's the one spot where applicants can distinguish themselves. And don't even think about using AI or tutors. Readers can sense BS from a mile away
Essays. The dirty secret.