Anonymous wrote:How is your daughter almost 14 going into 8th grade? My daughter is 13 going into high school.

How is it that you don't know how to use a calendar.

Leave it to the ultra-competitive DCUMs.

One of my 8th grade twins wears lip gloss and light mascara with a little bit of concealer for the odd acne spot and I'm fine with it (other 8th grader couldn't care less about makeup yet and I don't know if she ever will). It's so subtle it's hard to even tell it's there. I don't wear makeup very often and when I do I'm usually going somewhere where I want to feel confident so I imagine she feels the same way about school.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it is fine if she wears one thing (gloss or mascara etc). I am not on board with the cover your face because your natural face can't be seen view of make up that leads to women always wearing make up and not leaving the house without it. I find that very unhealthy to have to hide your own face and so I wouldn't support the full face look but a dab of this or that - fine.

And, yet, you're not allowing her body autonomy and shaming women who make different choices.

+1000. Just as it was wrong back in the day to look down on girls/women who didn’t wear makeup, this present day attitude toward girls and women who enjoy wearing makeup is also wrong. If wearing makeup is something my tween/teen enjoys, it’s fine with me, and it’s also fine if they choose not to.

OP here. Thanks for all the responses - points for me to think about. Think some previous posters assumed I was responding above but that wasn't me. That said, in response to PP, I think there is a big difference between wearing some make up outside of school and wearing it to school. We are talking about a 13yo, not a 16 or 17yo. She is a child and school should not be a beauty parade. Maybe if she was 16, I would still feel the same. I see 16yo girls at DS16's school wearing shorts that reveal their bums and with lowcut tops and it hardly strikes me that they are striking a blow for bodily autonomy and freedom of expression. Bit sad to see that in school.

I take the points about girls sneaking off to apply make up in the school bathrooms. There is a clearly a compromise we need to reach and I recognise I have to give some ground. Seems it is a matter of figuring out where the sensible limits lie.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you sure no one wore makeup in High School in the 80's? It didn't look that way on Neighbors and Home and Away!!

We wore make up inthe 80's. Black eyeliner and mascara.

Errrr...Neighbours and Home and Away were TV shows, not real life. Everyone wears make up on TV. I can assure you we didn't wear make up. Norms in Australia were different. We had a poor American exchange student come over and initially we thought she was odd as she was wearing make up and fully blown out hair to school.

I would have nothing against an 8th grader wearing makeup on non-PE days.

You guys try to control things like makeup wearing in 8th grade? Honestly that’s really weird and fundy type stuff.

Anonymous wrote:I wasn’t allowed to wear makeup in seventh grade, but I was determined because I’ve always had dark circles under my eyes, so I walked up to the drug store with my friend one summer and bought foundation and concealer. (Not even anything fun!) My mom found it and I got I trouble. Fast forward to late college/young adult years, and I had absolutely zero interest in wearing any makeup at all, which was also an issue with my mom. (“Don’t you want to try just a little bit of lipstick?” etc.) Which is all to say, whatever they want to do in middle school is not necessarily going to be what they want to do at 16, 18, 25 and on. But no matter what, it’ll always be wrong, because women.

Truth

Anonymous wrote:I was in middle school 35 years ago in the US, and everyone wore lip gloss at the start of sixth grade, and by 7th, we all wore as much as we wanted.

+1 Yep, I entered 7th grade in 1983 and I wore eyeliner, blue mascara (it was the 80s, lol), blush and lip gloss.

I wasn’t allowed to wear makeup in seventh grade, but I was determined because I’ve always had dark circles under my eyes, so I walked up to the drug store with my friend one summer and bought foundation and concealer. (Not even anything fun!) My mom found it and I got I trouble. Fast forward to late college/young adult years, and I had absolutely zero interest in wearing any makeup at all, which was also an issue with my mom. (“Don’t you want to try just a little bit of lipstick?” etc.) Which is all to say, whatever they want to do in middle school is not necessarily going to be what they want to do at 16, 18, 25 and on. But no matter what, it’ll always be wrong, because women.

I am in my early 70s I started wearing makeup in 7th grade. This was normal.

No to eye liner
yes to everything else
as long as it's a natural color, nothing extreme

Anonymous wrote:Make up in the 80's: Freeze your eyeliner and then melt it a little so it went on smoother and darker.

Don’t forget blue or purple mascara.

Make up in the 80's: Freeze your eyeliner and then melt it a little so it went on smoother and darker.

Anonymous wrote:Are you sure no one wore makeup in High School in the 80's? It didn't look that way on Neighbors and Home and Away!!

We wore make up inthe 80's. Black eyeliner and mascara.