Anonymous
08/20/2023 10:39
Subject: Tall trees, climate change, and neighborhood desirability
We bought our house because it is in a neighborhood with mature trees. The neighborhood is beautiful. The houses are beautiful too. Don't buy a house if you can't afford to keep up the space around it. You are buying the property too. It needs to be maintained. Houses with no landscaping or trees look stark. Those neighborhoods are also heat islands. Look at a heat island map. Temperatures can be greatly lower in treed neighborhoods.
Anonymous
08/20/2023 09:08
Subject: Tall trees, climate change, and neighborhood desirability
We have many mature trees in our neighborhood including ash and elm that need treatment. Many of my neighbors treat them but some do not and then the trees die. Just get decent homeowners insurance and have an arborist come once a year and check your trees. Whatever they say needs to be done we do (or get a second opinion first). I think this is also good for insurance if you can show you keep up with maintenance of your trees.
This year we had to have some dead branches taken down off a mature tree and so did our neighbor. They had to bring the big machine on our property for the neighbors tree. They did a great job and didn’t leave any marks on our property. We also had some cabling done years ago and had to have some smaller dead trees taken down. We treat our dogwoods and any trees that need treatment to keep them alive.
I love mature trees and think they make a neighborhood. People comment on my neighborhood and how beautiful it is due to the mature trees.
This year we had to have some dead branches taken down off a mature tree and so did our neighbor. They had to bring the big machine on our property for the neighbors tree. They did a great job and didn’t leave any marks on our property. We also had some cabling done years ago and had to have some smaller dead trees taken down. We treat our dogwoods and any trees that need treatment to keep them alive.
I love mature trees and think they make a neighborhood. People comment on my neighborhood and how beautiful it is due to the mature trees.
Anonymous
08/20/2023 08:46
Subject: Tall trees, climate change, and neighborhood desirability
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well maintained mature trees are amazing for resale value
Good to know. Most people I know don’t want to live near mature trees.
No, I mean DCUM will teach you how different people are and there are definitely militantly anti tree people on dcum but unless you live in Ashburn or something, most people want mature trees.
Why aren’t more people living in rural areas where there are obviously more trees?
Cities have less trees but most people would rather live nearby. I guess people don’t care so much about trees as you think.
The most expensive neighborhoods in the city and the close in suburbs have mature trees. The most treeless areas are formerly farms and now subdivisions, like in Ashburn. Some of them will have mature trees in 40-50 years.
Well, there are not many mature trees in the top 10 largest cities in the US: NY, LA, Chicago, Houston, Phoenix, Philly, San Antonio, San Diego, Dallas, San Jose.
These cities attract millions of people. I guess living near mature trees isn't that important to people as you think.
Travel the world and go to the most desirable cities and most populous cities and you won't find many mature trees.
Lololololol
Anonymous
08/20/2023 08:20
Subject: Re:Tall trees, climate change, and neighborhood desirability
We have family members who live in a relatively desirable area, part of which is that there are many old, very tall and beautiful trees in the neighborhood. With the crazy storms that seem to have become the norm over the last decade or so, seemingly healthy trees falling onto houses has become a standard occurrence - they and five other houses within a 2-block radius have all sustained major (i.e. roof collapse, rebuilding whole parts of a house) damage in recent years. I'm curious how this phenomenon is playing into people's house buying decisions these days.
Lots of things play into buying decisions. It's cheaper to take out a tree than to remodel an old kitchen. A lot cheaper. We just saw a house where lots of remodeling was done and done well. All new bathrooms and kitchen done with high end appointments. Would a couple of trees deter me? Heck no. It's a lot easier to live through a tree removal than through a kitchen renovation. Just saying.
Anonymous
08/20/2023 08:05
Subject: Tall trees, climate change, and neighborhood desirability
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well maintained mature trees are amazing for resale value
Good to know. Most people I know don’t want to live near mature trees.
No, I mean DCUM will teach you how different people are and there are definitely militantly anti tree people on dcum but unless you live in Ashburn or something, most people want mature trees.
Why aren’t more people living in rural areas where there are obviously more trees?
Cities have less trees but most people would rather live nearby. I guess people don’t care so much about trees as you think.
The most expensive parts of DC have more trees than the cheaper parts of DC. Makes you think. By contrast exurbia subdivisions are pretty treeless because they were all cut down to build houses. It's not a neat case of one or the other.
Exurbia subdivisions were often built on land that was farmed or pastures. No trees except maybe a small clump for horses or cows to get some shade. That land can also come with natural occurring ponds so beware what was there... In Mclean there was a garden at the intersection of Balls Hill and Old Dominion.
If a builder has woods they don't clear cut the whole thing- only whats necessary. Some properties come with huge mature trees planted too close to the foundation. Or the sewer and gas lines etc run through the roots which can invade sewer lines for example.
Anonymous
08/20/2023 08:04
Subject: Re:Tall trees, climate change, and neighborhood desirability
Do you climate loons have to bring your death cult into literally every topic of discussion?
Here’s something you might find interesting. Berkshire Hathaway is the largest property and casualty insurance company by far the United States — they are exposed to tens of billions of dollars in losses in the event of catastrophic events such as hurricanes. Want to guess how much of a role climate change plays in their pricing decisions, according to their CEO Warren Buffett (who is a Democrat)? Exactly ZERO.
In fairness, he says this is because they write one-year policies and can increase pricing in the future if needed (unlike an individual’s home purchase, which is a much longer commitment). But he is putting his money where his mouth is and has stated that they accept some amount of randomness in terms of weather patterns — if they decided to hide out in a hole because of climate change, they would miss the opportunity to write billions of dollars in good premiums. He states that they have not seen anything that indicates to them that climate change should change their business in any way. And yet people like the OP are forsaking perfectly desirable properties because of a potential $5K expense for tree removal.
Here’s something you might find interesting. Berkshire Hathaway is the largest property and casualty insurance company by far the United States — they are exposed to tens of billions of dollars in losses in the event of catastrophic events such as hurricanes. Want to guess how much of a role climate change plays in their pricing decisions, according to their CEO Warren Buffett (who is a Democrat)? Exactly ZERO.
In fairness, he says this is because they write one-year policies and can increase pricing in the future if needed (unlike an individual’s home purchase, which is a much longer commitment). But he is putting his money where his mouth is and has stated that they accept some amount of randomness in terms of weather patterns — if they decided to hide out in a hole because of climate change, they would miss the opportunity to write billions of dollars in good premiums. He states that they have not seen anything that indicates to them that climate change should change their business in any way. And yet people like the OP are forsaking perfectly desirable properties because of a potential $5K expense for tree removal.
Anonymous
08/20/2023 05:34
Subject: Tall trees, climate change, and neighborhood desirability
Mature trees don’t have to be huge, towering ones that could crush the house. At our house we are gradually replacing massive trees with smaller ones. Small, beautiful native trees will still mature over time. Some will produce blossoms or berries.
Anonymous
08/19/2023 22:52
Subject: Re:Tall trees, climate change, and neighborhood desirability
Well, there are not many mature trees in the top 10 largest cities in the US: NY, LA, Chicago, Houston, Phoenix, Philly, San Antonio, San Diego, Dallas, San Jose.
These cities attract millions of people. I guess living near mature trees isn't that important to people as you think.
Travel the world and go to the most desirable cities and most populous cities and you won't find many mature trees.
I don't know about all of those cities, but have you ever been to the River Walk in San Antonio? Plenty of trees there. I'm guessing the city wants to keep them and plant even more. It's a nice walk.
Anonymous
08/19/2023 22:50
Subject: Re:Tall trees, climate change, and neighborhood desirability
Trees are highly desirable. They make a neighborhood look so much nicer and they keep it cooler. Walking down a street with trees is a beautiful experience. You see so many birds. Life is just better.
Look after your trees and they will look after you. The planet is a better place with them.
Anonymous
08/19/2023 20:46
Subject: Tall trees, climate change, and neighborhood desirability
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well maintained mature trees are amazing for resale value
Good to know. Most people I know don’t want to live near mature trees.
No, I mean DCUM will teach you how different people are and there are definitely militantly anti tree people on dcum but unless you live in Ashburn or something, most people want mature trees.
Why aren’t more people living in rural areas where there are obviously more trees?
Cities have less trees but most people would rather live nearby. I guess people don’t care so much about trees as you think.
The most expensive neighborhoods in the city and the close in suburbs have mature trees. The most treeless areas are formerly farms and now subdivisions, like in Ashburn. Some of them will have mature trees in 40-50 years.
Well, there are not many mature trees in the top 10 largest cities in the US: NY, LA, Chicago, Houston, Phoenix, Philly, San Antonio, San Diego, Dallas, San Jose.
These cities attract millions of people. I guess living near mature trees isn't that important to people as you think.
Travel the world and go to the most desirable cities and most populous cities and you won't find many mature trees.
Anonymous
08/19/2023 20:32
Subject: Tall trees, climate change, and neighborhood desirability
Anonymous wrote:We clear cut and plant new but trim to avoid it getting to big
Who is "we"? Anyway, gross. Enjoy your nonnative trees that are devoid of native insect and birdlife.
Anonymous
08/19/2023 19:51
Subject: Tall trees, climate change, and neighborhood desirability
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well maintained mature trees are amazing for resale value
Good to know. Most people I know don’t want to live near mature trees.
No, I mean DCUM will teach you how different people are and there are definitely militantly anti tree people on dcum but unless you live in Ashburn or something, most people want mature trees.
Why aren’t more people living in rural areas where there are obviously more trees?
Cities have less trees but most people would rather live nearby. I guess people don’t care so much about trees as you think.
The most expensive neighborhoods in the city and the close in suburbs have mature trees. The most treeless areas are formerly farms and now subdivisions, like in Ashburn. Some of them will have mature trees in 40-50 years.
Anonymous
08/19/2023 14:55
Subject: Tall trees, climate change, and neighborhood desirability
We clear cut and plant new but trim to avoid it getting to big