Anonymous
Post 08/10/2023 22:22     Subject: Why is Cornell called "lower Ivy"
SUNY Ithaca
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2023 22:22     Subject: Re:Why is Cornell called "lower Ivy"
Anonymous wrote:Save for RBG, Cornell's list of notable alumni is a who's who of no-names.

Weird because it's a fairly large school bas well.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2023 22:21     Subject: Re:Why is Cornell called "lower Ivy"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn't the Ivy League really Harvard and Yale and everyone else? If we're talking just general prestige anyway. Some people have heard of Princeton. Many of them rate its law school as being great


Cornell has a #7 ranked computer science dept and Yale is #20.


Where does that rank even come from? Something semi-useless like USNWR's undergrad department rankings?
Yes, everyone knows Yale was late to the CS game but it is now pouring $$ into it and Yale has plenty to invest and improve quickly. I'd go to Yale over Cornell for CS in a heartbeat with the recent investment and overall name recognition.


Sounds like you went to clown school.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2023 22:19     Subject: Re:Why is Cornell called "lower Ivy"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn't the Ivy League really Harvard and Yale and everyone else? If we're talking just general prestige anyway. Some people have heard of Princeton. Many of them rate its law school as being great


Cornell has a #7 ranked computer science dept and Yale is #20.


Where does that rank even come from? Something semi-useless like USNWR's undergrad department rankings?
Yes, everyone knows Yale was late to the CS game but it is now pouring $$ into it and Yale has plenty to invest and improve quickly. I'd go to Yale over Cornell for CS in a heartbeat with the recent investment and overall name recognition.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2023 22:07     Subject: Re:Why is Cornell called "lower Ivy"
Save for RBG, Cornell's list of notable alumni is a who's who of no-names.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2023 22:07     Subject: Why is Cornell called "lower Ivy"
Anonymous wrote:FWIW, Brown has been the lowest Ivy
https://harvardsportsanalysis.org/2021/12/ivy-league-all-around-power-rankings/


Brown won the division 1 national championship for men’s rugby and women’s sevens rugby this year. This likely would have moved them up in the rankings.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2023 22:05     Subject: Why is Cornell called "lower Ivy"
Cornell’s strengths - size and diversity - don’t score as highly with the USNWR methodology. So people who are driven by “lists”, instead of reality, tend to think it’s “lesser”.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2023 22:05     Subject: Re:Why is Cornell called "lower Ivy"
Anonymous wrote:Isn't the Ivy League really Harvard and Yale and everyone else? If we're talking just general prestige anyway. Some people have heard of Princeton. Many of them rate its law school as being great


Cornell has a #7 ranked computer science dept and Yale is #20.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2023 22:01     Subject: Re:Why is Cornell called "lower Ivy"
Isn't the Ivy League really Harvard and Yale and everyone else? If we're talking just general prestige anyway. Some people have heard of Princeton. Many of them rate its law school as being great
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2023 21:58     Subject: Why is Cornell called "lower Ivy"
FWIW, Brown has been the lowest Ivy
https://harvardsportsanalysis.org/2021/12/ivy-league-all-around-power-rankings/
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2023 21:55     Subject: Why is Cornell called "lower Ivy"
Many decision makers also don't consider Cornell "lower." As PP noted, in the 80s and early 90s, when a lot of higher-level people were going to college, it was better regarded relative to other Ivies and ranked higher.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2023 21:40     Subject: Why is Cornell called "lower Ivy"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would never use that expression IRL. It’s implicitly understood among those in the know, so no need to be so explicit.


"Those in the know" - snort. How insufferable.


But it’s true. You simply don’t use phrases like “top Ivy” or “lower Ivy” when you’re in the company of those who already know well where a school like Cornell stands.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2023 21:27     Subject: Re:Why is Cornell called "lower Ivy"
Anonymous wrote:Cornell University is better suited for the Big Ten Conference and Northwestern would be more comfortable in the Ivy League.

One has a school of agriculture and the other does not.

One hires its presidents from the Big Ten and the other does not.

One has ice hockey and the other doesn't.

Sometimes nature has a sense of humor and sometimes it doesn't. In this case, it does.


Almost all Ivy League schools have an ice hockey team so…
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2023 21:20     Subject: Why is Cornell called "lower Ivy"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just get into an Ivy. Employers and graduate schools don't care nor distinguish between them.


I do hiring and absolutely do not view these schools equally.


Do tell...please tell me how you evaluate potential employees from Ivy's? What about potential employees from large public flagship schools? Please be specific on how you "hire" candidates!



I love these lofty pronouncements by posters claiming to "do hiring" about who they would and wouldn't hire. Such utter BS that is beyond transparent.


You sure?
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2023 21:16     Subject: Why is Cornell called "lower Ivy"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just get into an Ivy. Employers and graduate schools don't care nor distinguish between them.


I do hiring and absolutely do not view these schools equally.


Do tell...please tell me how you evaluate potential employees from Ivy's? What about potential employees from large public flagship schools? Please be specific on how you "hire" candidates!


We evaluate all candidates based on multiple criteria, including core content knowledge from their major, relevant to the job, and real world problem solving skills. The assessment doesn’t change based on school. However, based on past performance focus hiring on certain schools.


Is this the utter BS?