Anonymous
08/11/2023 13:54
Subject: trans in Texas schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It seems petty, but without any context about why the teacher refuses to use the new name, we are left to speculate. Even in the most extreme scenario, that the teacher is doing to register disapproval of the trans identified kid, it's not clear that the teacher is doing anything wrong by using the legal name on the roster.
More likely... the teacher just doesn't give a crap about a teenager feeling like the other gender, or being some alternate status of non-gender. Most likely, the teacher has over 100 students per day, and the school year just started, and he doesn't remember that Larlo wants to be called Casey. He's probably just reading off a roster. And the other nicknames are probably easy to remember because they somehow relate to the actual name. I'm not a huge apologist for teachers. But this seems like a case of your friends picking a fight with someone who is working their ass off and doesn't have time to validate the choices of Little Lord Fontleroy, who is apparently picking apart every interaction and making a capital case.
The administration brought it up with him, and he would not budge.
School has been in session 1-2 weeks in Texas. This is so much drama that I strain to believe it. Even if it's true though, you don't know why he "didn't budge" and the idea that the teacher is getting his bearings with the names of over 100 kids is pretty reasonable. It's also a bit reactionary to reach out to the administration and get action taken in the very first week of school.
Quite a pretzel you are twisting into to defend a bigot. Then again your snide comment about Lord Fontleroy suggests you are defending your own bigotry.
Go a head and be man enough to admit you despise trans people. Have the courage of your convictions and don’t be a wuss afraid to state them.
I'm not a man. I'm putting myself in the shoes of the teacher and trying to determine the motivation, taking into account the fact that Texas has only been in session for 1-2 weeks.
Now the OP says that this actually happened last year, which makes the initial post even more suspect.
Maybe Texas's law is bad, I don't know enough about it, but this is probably not a real scenario.
+1 I think OP made up this story. Then this supposed student had a breakdown over not being called their desired name leading to a psychiatric inpatient stay? If this is a true story and their mental health was so bad why wouldn’t the school just switch them to a different classroom?
It is 100% real. If I provided any more details, I would out them. I cannot tell you the sequence of events that led to the hospital stay. But if you think it is implausible for a school to take too long to solve a problem, you aren't a parent.
As I stated before, I cannot say that the breakdown was specifically about the teacher. It is just part of the sequence of events. It could have been due to the loss of hormone therapy or other challenges. Who knows. But the events are all real.
Respectfully, how would you even know? This supposedly was relayed by the child of a friend of a family member who lives in Texas. It's third hand at best, but actually forth hand since the child is the ultimate source. And you relayed it in present tense, despite later noting it was last year. Even if it is true, the teacher no longer teaches the student, so it is even less clear why it is being relayed as a current concern. You literally don't know any of the people involved.
Wow, the level of suspicion I'm getting is just too much. My MIL and my wife are lifelong friends with this family. Every time we visit TX, the kids get together and swim in the pool together, play video games etc. I have known this child since age 6.
The reason I originally relayed it in the present tense was because she didn't even tell us what happened next that evening. Several family members began discussing whether it was feasible for them to live in Texas with the governor vowing to charge parents of trans kids with child abuse, and then the conversation turned to what's happening in VA and would they be better off here. To which I replied that the governor recently has issued his trans student policy and our school superintendent is promising he's not going to change our policy, but I can't say we won't be sued.
So someone here asked the question about how would it be fixed because it's only 1-2 weeks into the school year. Good question. So this AM I asked MIL how the problem would get fixed. It was only then that she explained it was last year and told me about the hospitalization. I wasn't deposing her, so sorry if I did not get every detail up front before I posted. This was/is a real life conversation with family, not an episode of law and order.
Anonymous
08/11/2023 13:32
Subject: trans in Texas schools
Anonymous wrote:I 100% believe this story. I'm in Florida and this state followed suit. It's now in statute that a teacher can only use a nickname or any other name for a kid if a parent fills out a specific form (I guess, oddly, in this case it might have helped.) In the guidance from the school, it reads that, "for example, if your child's name is Robert and they wish to go by Rob." Which of course is utter BS and no teacher on this planet is going to ask for a form to call a kid Rob instead of Robert. There's all kinds of new rules for schools and teachers, and it's 100% directed at trans kids. It's so sick, the hatred dripping from every word of the text. But we're just two days into school and teachers are ignoring it, according to my daughter.
Is this what that rule is about? I live in Florida too and don't understand why we need the form for a nickname. The law is about students enrolled in school under a name that's different from their legal name. This is about the enrollment name vs. the legal name. I don't see anything in this law regarding nicknames.
So my child's legal name is John Doe. I enroll him as John Doe. He prefers to be called Jack. No problem.
My child's legal name is John Doe. I enroll him as Jack Doe. Now we need the form.
To me, it looks like someone is misinterpreting the law to require the form in the first scenario.
Anonymous
08/11/2023 13:04
Subject: trans in Texas schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It seems petty, but without any context about why the teacher refuses to use the new name, we are left to speculate. Even in the most extreme scenario, that the teacher is doing to register disapproval of the trans identified kid, it's not clear that the teacher is doing anything wrong by using the legal name on the roster.
More likely... the teacher just doesn't give a crap about a teenager feeling like the other gender, or being some alternate status of non-gender. Most likely, the teacher has over 100 students per day, and the school year just started, and he doesn't remember that Larlo wants to be called Casey. He's probably just reading off a roster. And the other nicknames are probably easy to remember because they somehow relate to the actual name. I'm not a huge apologist for teachers. But this seems like a case of your friends picking a fight with someone who is working their ass off and doesn't have time to validate the choices of Little Lord Fontleroy, who is apparently picking apart every interaction and making a capital case.
The administration brought it up with him, and he would not budge.
School has been in session 1-2 weeks in Texas. This is so much drama that I strain to believe it. Even if it's true though, you don't know why he "didn't budge" and the idea that the teacher is getting his bearings with the names of over 100 kids is pretty reasonable. It's also a bit reactionary to reach out to the administration and get action taken in the very first week of school.
Quite a pretzel you are twisting into to defend a bigot. Then again your snide comment about Lord Fontleroy suggests you are defending your own bigotry.
Go a head and be man enough to admit you despise trans people. Have the courage of your convictions and don’t be a wuss afraid to state them.
I'm not a man. I'm putting myself in the shoes of the teacher and trying to determine the motivation, taking into account the fact that Texas has only been in session for 1-2 weeks.
Now the OP says that this actually happened last year, which makes the initial post even more suspect.
Maybe Texas's law is bad, I don't know enough about it, but this is probably not a real scenario.
+1 I think OP made up this story. Then this supposed student had a breakdown over not being called their desired name leading to a psychiatric inpatient stay? If this is a true story and their mental health was so bad why wouldn’t the school just switch them to a different classroom?
You guys suck. You are twisting yourselves into pretzels to justify nasty comments. If you don't believe the story, you are welcome to say so, but the rest of your commentary reveals what nasty people you are.
-not OP
And you're condemning a teacher who isn't here to defend himself.
Do you think it’s okay for teachers to use preferred names for some students but not others based on their own feelings? Do you think that’s being a good teacher?
I’m really confused by how many people are saying they think the story is implausible. This is what some people are trying to make happen. It’s kind of like how people were surprised when roe was overturned and it meant that some women no longer have access to abortion when needed. These are the things some people have been saying they want for a long time. It shouldn’t be surprising.
What I'm saying is that the only anecdote that we were given to assess is that when the teacher reads off the class roster for attendance, he used the legal name that the parent submitted. This is not enough information to assemble a lynch mob, not enough to decide he's a transphobe or a bully. A much more plausible explanation is that he's tired or checked out or some other reason than that he enjoys antagonizing a mentally ill student.
And yes, everything about the story is implausible. A summer break has passed, a new school year has started in the southern states, and this being presented as a current issue. When this was pointed out, they explained, on this was last year. This suggests that the OP isn't aware of school seasons in the south.
And beyond this, put yourself in the shoes of the parent. If your kid were dealing with this, why wouldn't they just update the students school paperwork with the current name? Why are they letting their kid, who becomes suicidal at the mention of their birth name, walk around using that name? They near NO responsibility at all to correct the paperwork or submit a legal name change? None?
Anonymous
08/11/2023 12:58
Subject: trans in Texas schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It seems petty, but without any context about why the teacher refuses to use the new name, we are left to speculate. Even in the most extreme scenario, that the teacher is doing to register disapproval of the trans identified kid, it's not clear that the teacher is doing anything wrong by using the legal name on the roster.
More likely... the teacher just doesn't give a crap about a teenager feeling like the other gender, or being some alternate status of non-gender. Most likely, the teacher has over 100 students per day, and the school year just started, and he doesn't remember that Larlo wants to be called Casey. He's probably just reading off a roster. And the other nicknames are probably easy to remember because they somehow relate to the actual name. I'm not a huge apologist for teachers. But this seems like a case of your friends picking a fight with someone who is working their ass off and doesn't have time to validate the choices of Little Lord Fontleroy, who is apparently picking apart every interaction and making a capital case.
The administration brought it up with him, and he would not budge.
School has been in session 1-2 weeks in Texas. This is so much drama that I strain to believe it. Even if it's true though, you don't know why he "didn't budge" and the idea that the teacher is getting his bearings with the names of over 100 kids is pretty reasonable. It's also a bit reactionary to reach out to the administration and get action taken in the very first week of school.
Quite a pretzel you are twisting into to defend a bigot. Then again your snide comment about Lord Fontleroy suggests you are defending your own bigotry.
Go a head and be man enough to admit you despise trans people. Have the courage of your convictions and don’t be a wuss afraid to state them.
I'm not a man. I'm putting myself in the shoes of the teacher and trying to determine the motivation, taking into account the fact that Texas has only been in session for 1-2 weeks.
Now the OP says that this actually happened last year, which makes the initial post even more suspect.
Maybe Texas's law is bad, I don't know enough about it, but this is probably not a real scenario.
+1 I think OP made up this story. Then this supposed student had a breakdown over not being called their desired name leading to a psychiatric inpatient stay? If this is a true story and their mental health was so bad why wouldn’t the school just switch them to a different classroom?
It is 100% real. If I provided any more details, I would out them. I cannot tell you the sequence of events that led to the hospital stay. But if you think it is implausible for a school to take too long to solve a problem, you aren't a parent.
As I stated before, I cannot say that the breakdown was specifically about the teacher. It is just part of the sequence of events. It could have been due to the loss of hormone therapy or other challenges. Who knows. But the events are all real.
Respectfully, how would you even know? This supposedly was relayed by the child of a friend of a family member who lives in Texas. It's third hand at best, but actually forth hand since the child is the ultimate source. And you relayed it in present tense, despite later noting it was last year. Even if it is true, the teacher no longer teaches the student, so it is even less clear why it is being relayed as a current concern. You literally don't know any of the people involved.
Exactly and the posters calling people who question this story bigots and accusing them of justifying nasty comments need to use some critical thinking skills rather than believing everything you read. Either this story isn't true or other details aren't known because the OP doesn't even know this kid and the story as is doesn't make sense. If a student was truly suicidal or having a mental breakdown over being called the wrong name why wouldn't the school switch them to a different teacher? It could be a potential legal issue for the school if they knew about serious concerns and failed to act appropriately resulting in harm to the student.
Anonymous
08/11/2023 12:56
Subject: trans in Texas schools
I 100% believe this story. I'm in Florida and this state followed suit. It's now in statute that a teacher can only use a nickname or any other name for a kid if a parent fills out a specific form (I guess, oddly, in this case it might have helped.) In the guidance from the school, it reads that, "for example, if your child's name is Robert and they wish to go by Rob." Which of course is utter BS and no teacher on this planet is going to ask for a form to call a kid Rob instead of Robert. There's all kinds of new rules for schools and teachers, and it's 100% directed at trans kids. It's so sick, the hatred dripping from every word of the text. But we're just two days into school and teachers are ignoring it, according to my daughter.
Anonymous
08/11/2023 12:48
Subject: trans in Texas schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The story in the Post about the child in MS being forced to drive across state lines for testosterone shots was so sad. I wish you all would read or listen to it (they did a podcast of it)
The child had received at least a year of therapy before the shots were approved. I don’t have personal experience with hormone shots/medical transition, but this scenario seems reasonable to me. Therapy before taking the hormones makes sense to me.
Yes, do those with gender dysphoria have underlying mental health issues? Probably. But is that the chicken or the egg?
I’m not against teens receiving hormones as long as they have been cared for and assessed by mental health professionals.
The kid in the post article was withdrawn, depressed, nearly suicidal before the hormone treatments started. Total 180 once he received the treatments.
I beg all of you to put yourself in this mother’s shoes. The hormones have changed her child’s life for the better.
My son’s story is similar, except he has access to treatment. Once in a while I feel like when I share our journey, it helps someone understand why parents allow teens to transition medically. I really appreciate your thoughts and that you’re standing up for us even though you don’t know us.
Absolutely! So many hugs for your son and your family. It is such a tough time to be in a marginalized group. I am and will remain an ally and friend. I wish your son good health and so much happiness.
Anonymous
08/11/2023 12:41
Subject: trans in Texas schools
Anonymous wrote:The story in the Post about the child in MS being forced to drive across state lines for testosterone shots was so sad. I wish you all would read or listen to it (they did a podcast of it)
The child had received at least a year of therapy before the shots were approved. I don’t have personal experience with hormone shots/medical transition, but this scenario seems reasonable to me. Therapy before taking the hormones makes sense to me.
Yes, do those with gender dysphoria have underlying mental health issues? Probably. But is that the chicken or the egg?
I’m not against teens receiving hormones as long as they have been cared for and assessed by mental health professionals.
The kid in the post article was withdrawn, depressed, nearly suicidal before the hormone treatments started. Total 180 once he received the treatments.
I beg all of you to put yourself in this mother’s shoes. The hormones have changed her child’s life for the better.
My son’s story is similar, except he has access to treatment. Once in a while I feel like when I share our journey, it helps someone understand why parents allow teens to transition medically. I really appreciate your thoughts and that you’re standing up for us even though you don’t know us.
Anonymous
08/11/2023 12:34
Subject: trans in Texas schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It seems petty, but without any context about why the teacher refuses to use the new name, we are left to speculate. Even in the most extreme scenario, that the teacher is doing to register disapproval of the trans identified kid, it's not clear that the teacher is doing anything wrong by using the legal name on the roster.
More likely... the teacher just doesn't give a crap about a teenager feeling like the other gender, or being some alternate status of non-gender. Most likely, the teacher has over 100 students per day, and the school year just started, and he doesn't remember that Larlo wants to be called Casey. He's probably just reading off a roster. And the other nicknames are probably easy to remember because they somehow relate to the actual name. I'm not a huge apologist for teachers. But this seems like a case of your friends picking a fight with someone who is working their ass off and doesn't have time to validate the choices of Little Lord Fontleroy, who is apparently picking apart every interaction and making a capital case.
The administration brought it up with him, and he would not budge.
School has been in session 1-2 weeks in Texas. This is so much drama that I strain to believe it. Even if it's true though, you don't know why he "didn't budge" and the idea that the teacher is getting his bearings with the names of over 100 kids is pretty reasonable. It's also a bit reactionary to reach out to the administration and get action taken in the very first week of school.
Quite a pretzel you are twisting into to defend a bigot. Then again your snide comment about Lord Fontleroy suggests you are defending your own bigotry.
Go a head and be man enough to admit you despise trans people. Have the courage of your convictions and don’t be a wuss afraid to state them.
I'm not a man. I'm putting myself in the shoes of the teacher and trying to determine the motivation, taking into account the fact that Texas has only been in session for 1-2 weeks.
Now the OP says that this actually happened last year, which makes the initial post even more suspect.
Maybe Texas's law is bad, I don't know enough about it, but this is probably not a real scenario.
+1 I think OP made up this story. Then this supposed student had a breakdown over not being called their desired name leading to a psychiatric inpatient stay? If this is a true story and their mental health was so bad why wouldn’t the school just switch them to a different classroom?
You guys suck. You are twisting yourselves into pretzels to justify nasty comments. If you don't believe the story, you are welcome to say so, but the rest of your commentary reveals what nasty people you are.
-not OP
And you're condemning a teacher who isn't here to defend himself.
Do you think it’s okay for teachers to use preferred names for some students but not others based on their own feelings? Do you think that’s being a good teacher?
I’m really confused by how many people are saying they think the story is implausible. This is what some people are trying to make happen. It’s kind of like how people were surprised when roe was overturned and it meant that some women no longer have access to abortion when needed. These are the things some people have been saying they want for a long time. It shouldn’t be surprising.
Anonymous
08/11/2023 12:34
Subject: trans in Texas schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It seems petty, but without any context about why the teacher refuses to use the new name, we are left to speculate. Even in the most extreme scenario, that the teacher is doing to register disapproval of the trans identified kid, it's not clear that the teacher is doing anything wrong by using the legal name on the roster.
More likely... the teacher just doesn't give a crap about a teenager feeling like the other gender, or being some alternate status of non-gender. Most likely, the teacher has over 100 students per day, and the school year just started, and he doesn't remember that Larlo wants to be called Casey. He's probably just reading off a roster. And the other nicknames are probably easy to remember because they somehow relate to the actual name. I'm not a huge apologist for teachers. But this seems like a case of your friends picking a fight with someone who is working their ass off and doesn't have time to validate the choices of Little Lord Fontleroy, who is apparently picking apart every interaction and making a capital case.
The administration brought it up with him, and he would not budge.
School has been in session 1-2 weeks in Texas. This is so much drama that I strain to believe it. Even if it's true though, you don't know why he "didn't budge" and the idea that the teacher is getting his bearings with the names of over 100 kids is pretty reasonable. It's also a bit reactionary to reach out to the administration and get action taken in the very first week of school.
Quite a pretzel you are twisting into to defend a bigot. Then again your snide comment about Lord Fontleroy suggests you are defending your own bigotry.
Go a head and be man enough to admit you despise trans people. Have the courage of your convictions and don’t be a wuss afraid to state them.
I'm not a man. I'm putting myself in the shoes of the teacher and trying to determine the motivation, taking into account the fact that Texas has only been in session for 1-2 weeks.
Now the OP says that this actually happened last year, which makes the initial post even more suspect.
Maybe Texas's law is bad, I don't know enough about it, but this is probably not a real scenario.
+1 I think OP made up this story. Then this supposed student had a breakdown over not being called their desired name leading to a psychiatric inpatient stay? If this is a true story and their mental health was so bad why wouldn’t the school just switch them to a different classroom?
You guys suck. You are twisting yourselves into pretzels to justify nasty comments. If you don't believe the story, you are welcome to say so, but the rest of your commentary reveals what nasty people you are.
-not OP
And you're condemning a teacher who isn't here to defend himself.
The deadnaming a-holes are everywhere. I mean, we had that case in Loudoun not long ago.
Anonymous
08/11/2023 12:33
Subject: trans in Texas schools
The story in the Post about the child in MS being forced to drive across state lines for testosterone shots was so sad. I wish you all would read or listen to it (they did a podcast of it)
The child had received at least a year of therapy before the shots were approved. I don’t have personal experience with hormone shots/medical transition, but this scenario seems reasonable to me. Therapy before taking the hormones makes sense to me.
Yes, do those with gender dysphoria have underlying mental health issues? Probably. But is that the chicken or the egg?
I’m not against teens receiving hormones as long as they have been cared for and assessed by mental health professionals.
The kid in the post article was withdrawn, depressed, nearly suicidal before the hormone treatments started. Total 180 once he received the treatments.
I beg all of you to put yourself in this mother’s shoes. The hormones have changed her child’s life for the better.
The child had received at least a year of therapy before the shots were approved. I don’t have personal experience with hormone shots/medical transition, but this scenario seems reasonable to me. Therapy before taking the hormones makes sense to me.
Yes, do those with gender dysphoria have underlying mental health issues? Probably. But is that the chicken or the egg?
I’m not against teens receiving hormones as long as they have been cared for and assessed by mental health professionals.
The kid in the post article was withdrawn, depressed, nearly suicidal before the hormone treatments started. Total 180 once he received the treatments.
I beg all of you to put yourself in this mother’s shoes. The hormones have changed her child’s life for the better.
Anonymous
08/11/2023 12:11
Subject: trans in Texas schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It seems petty, but without any context about why the teacher refuses to use the new name, we are left to speculate. Even in the most extreme scenario, that the teacher is doing to register disapproval of the trans identified kid, it's not clear that the teacher is doing anything wrong by using the legal name on the roster.
More likely... the teacher just doesn't give a crap about a teenager feeling like the other gender, or being some alternate status of non-gender. Most likely, the teacher has over 100 students per day, and the school year just started, and he doesn't remember that Larlo wants to be called Casey. He's probably just reading off a roster. And the other nicknames are probably easy to remember because they somehow relate to the actual name. I'm not a huge apologist for teachers. But this seems like a case of your friends picking a fight with someone who is working their ass off and doesn't have time to validate the choices of Little Lord Fontleroy, who is apparently picking apart every interaction and making a capital case.
The administration brought it up with him, and he would not budge.
School has been in session 1-2 weeks in Texas. This is so much drama that I strain to believe it. Even if it's true though, you don't know why he "didn't budge" and the idea that the teacher is getting his bearings with the names of over 100 kids is pretty reasonable. It's also a bit reactionary to reach out to the administration and get action taken in the very first week of school.
Quite a pretzel you are twisting into to defend a bigot. Then again your snide comment about Lord Fontleroy suggests you are defending your own bigotry.
Go a head and be man enough to admit you despise trans people. Have the courage of your convictions and don’t be a wuss afraid to state them.
I'm not a man. I'm putting myself in the shoes of the teacher and trying to determine the motivation, taking into account the fact that Texas has only been in session for 1-2 weeks.
Now the OP says that this actually happened last year, which makes the initial post even more suspect.
Maybe Texas's law is bad, I don't know enough about it, but this is probably not a real scenario.
+1 I think OP made up this story. Then this supposed student had a breakdown over not being called their desired name leading to a psychiatric inpatient stay? If this is a true story and their mental health was so bad why wouldn’t the school just switch them to a different classroom?
You guys suck. You are twisting yourselves into pretzels to justify nasty comments. If you don't believe the story, you are welcome to say so, but the rest of your commentary reveals what nasty people you are.
-not OP
And you're condemning a teacher who isn't here to defend himself.
Anonymous
08/11/2023 12:09
Subject: trans in Texas schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It seems petty, but without any context about why the teacher refuses to use the new name, we are left to speculate. Even in the most extreme scenario, that the teacher is doing to register disapproval of the trans identified kid, it's not clear that the teacher is doing anything wrong by using the legal name on the roster.
More likely... the teacher just doesn't give a crap about a teenager feeling like the other gender, or being some alternate status of non-gender. Most likely, the teacher has over 100 students per day, and the school year just started, and he doesn't remember that Larlo wants to be called Casey. He's probably just reading off a roster. And the other nicknames are probably easy to remember because they somehow relate to the actual name. I'm not a huge apologist for teachers. But this seems like a case of your friends picking a fight with someone who is working their ass off and doesn't have time to validate the choices of Little Lord Fontleroy, who is apparently picking apart every interaction and making a capital case.
The administration brought it up with him, and he would not budge.
School has been in session 1-2 weeks in Texas. This is so much drama that I strain to believe it. Even if it's true though, you don't know why he "didn't budge" and the idea that the teacher is getting his bearings with the names of over 100 kids is pretty reasonable. It's also a bit reactionary to reach out to the administration and get action taken in the very first week of school.
Quite a pretzel you are twisting into to defend a bigot. Then again your snide comment about Lord Fontleroy suggests you are defending your own bigotry.
Go a head and be man enough to admit you despise trans people. Have the courage of your convictions and don’t be a wuss afraid to state them.
I'm not a man. I'm putting myself in the shoes of the teacher and trying to determine the motivation, taking into account the fact that Texas has only been in session for 1-2 weeks.
Now the OP says that this actually happened last year, which makes the initial post even more suspect.
Maybe Texas's law is bad, I don't know enough about it, but this is probably not a real scenario.
+1 I think OP made up this story. Then this supposed student had a breakdown over not being called their desired name leading to a psychiatric inpatient stay? If this is a true story and their mental health was so bad why wouldn’t the school just switch them to a different classroom?
You guys suck. You are twisting yourselves into pretzels to justify nasty comments. If you don't believe the story, you are welcome to say so, but the rest of your commentary reveals what nasty people you are.
-not OP
Anonymous
08/11/2023 11:58
Subject: trans in Texas schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It seems petty, but without any context about why the teacher refuses to use the new name, we are left to speculate. Even in the most extreme scenario, that the teacher is doing to register disapproval of the trans identified kid, it's not clear that the teacher is doing anything wrong by using the legal name on the roster.
More likely... the teacher just doesn't give a crap about a teenager feeling like the other gender, or being some alternate status of non-gender. Most likely, the teacher has over 100 students per day, and the school year just started, and he doesn't remember that Larlo wants to be called Casey. He's probably just reading off a roster. And the other nicknames are probably easy to remember because they somehow relate to the actual name. I'm not a huge apologist for teachers. But this seems like a case of your friends picking a fight with someone who is working their ass off and doesn't have time to validate the choices of Little Lord Fontleroy, who is apparently picking apart every interaction and making a capital case.
The administration brought it up with him, and he would not budge.
School has been in session 1-2 weeks in Texas. This is so much drama that I strain to believe it. Even if it's true though, you don't know why he "didn't budge" and the idea that the teacher is getting his bearings with the names of over 100 kids is pretty reasonable. It's also a bit reactionary to reach out to the administration and get action taken in the very first week of school.
Quite a pretzel you are twisting into to defend a bigot. Then again your snide comment about Lord Fontleroy suggests you are defending your own bigotry.
Go a head and be man enough to admit you despise trans people. Have the courage of your convictions and don’t be a wuss afraid to state them.
I'm not a man. I'm putting myself in the shoes of the teacher and trying to determine the motivation, taking into account the fact that Texas has only been in session for 1-2 weeks.
Now the OP says that this actually happened last year, which makes the initial post even more suspect.
Maybe Texas's law is bad, I don't know enough about it, but this is probably not a real scenario.
+1 I think OP made up this story. Then this supposed student had a breakdown over not being called their desired name leading to a psychiatric inpatient stay? If this is a true story and their mental health was so bad why wouldn’t the school just switch them to a different classroom?
It is 100% real. If I provided any more details, I would out them. I cannot tell you the sequence of events that led to the hospital stay. But if you think it is implausible for a school to take too long to solve a problem, you aren't a parent.
As I stated before, I cannot say that the breakdown was specifically about the teacher. It is just part of the sequence of events. It could have been due to the loss of hormone therapy or other challenges. Who knows. But the events are all real.
I doubt this story is true but if it is then this kid needs all the mental health resources they can get because it is not a normal reaction to have to be hospitalized. Unfortunately in some cases underlying mental health conditions are largely ignored or unaddressed in favor of gender affirmation. [/quote
I believe the story. From my observations of trans students that I know from my kids’ school, they all pretty much have underlying mental health issues (on the spectrum, anxiety, depression, etc). I can see how a teacher constantly calling a trans student by their wrong name would lead to hospitalization.
The teacher absolutely should not call the student by their old name. Call them their new name and move on. How hard is it to be respectful?
Anonymous
08/11/2023 11:44
Subject: trans in Texas schools
The hospitalization was almost certainly largely due to stopping hormone therapy. Yes, the poor child shouldn’t have been subjected to hormone therapy in the first place, but just stopping is cruel and indeed likely to cause severe mental health problems. This is precisely why I was opposed to the bans; I’m okay barring new patients because the medical evidence for childhood medicalization is so weak at this point, but the existing kids unfortunately can’t just get cut off. This poor child has been abused left and right by the medical system, the state, and also by the teacher. The child shouldn’t have been on hormones in the first place, shouldn’t have had the hormones cut off, and shouldn’t have been bullied by the teacher.
God, that poor child. I hope he is doing better now.
God, that poor child. I hope he is doing better now.
Anonymous
08/11/2023 11:36
Subject: trans in Texas schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It seems petty, but without any context about why the teacher refuses to use the new name, we are left to speculate. Even in the most extreme scenario, that the teacher is doing to register disapproval of the trans identified kid, it's not clear that the teacher is doing anything wrong by using the legal name on the roster.
More likely... the teacher just doesn't give a crap about a teenager feeling like the other gender, or being some alternate status of non-gender. Most likely, the teacher has over 100 students per day, and the school year just started, and he doesn't remember that Larlo wants to be called Casey. He's probably just reading off a roster. And the other nicknames are probably easy to remember because they somehow relate to the actual name. I'm not a huge apologist for teachers. But this seems like a case of your friends picking a fight with someone who is working their ass off and doesn't have time to validate the choices of Little Lord Fontleroy, who is apparently picking apart every interaction and making a capital case.
The administration brought it up with him, and he would not budge.
School has been in session 1-2 weeks in Texas. This is so much drama that I strain to believe it. Even if it's true though, you don't know why he "didn't budge" and the idea that the teacher is getting his bearings with the names of over 100 kids is pretty reasonable. It's also a bit reactionary to reach out to the administration and get action taken in the very first week of school.
Quite a pretzel you are twisting into to defend a bigot. Then again your snide comment about Lord Fontleroy suggests you are defending your own bigotry.
Go a head and be man enough to admit you despise trans people. Have the courage of your convictions and don’t be a wuss afraid to state them.
I'm not a man. I'm putting myself in the shoes of the teacher and trying to determine the motivation, taking into account the fact that Texas has only been in session for 1-2 weeks.
Now the OP says that this actually happened last year, which makes the initial post even more suspect.
Maybe Texas's law is bad, I don't know enough about it, but this is probably not a real scenario.
+1 I think OP made up this story. Then this supposed student had a breakdown over not being called their desired name leading to a psychiatric inpatient stay? If this is a true story and their mental health was so bad why wouldn’t the school just switch them to a different classroom?
It is 100% real. If I provided any more details, I would out them. I cannot tell you the sequence of events that led to the hospital stay. But if you think it is implausible for a school to take too long to solve a problem, you aren't a parent.
As I stated before, I cannot say that the breakdown was specifically about the teacher. It is just part of the sequence of events. It could have been due to the loss of hormone therapy or other challenges. Who knows. But the events are all real.
Respectfully, how would you even know? This supposedly was relayed by the child of a friend of a family member who lives in Texas. It's third hand at best, but actually forth hand since the child is the ultimate source. And you relayed it in present tense, despite later noting it was last year. Even if it is true, the teacher no longer teaches the student, so it is even less clear why it is being relayed as a current concern. You literally don't know any of the people involved.