Anonymous
08/07/2023 14:08
Subject: Re:Have you ever had HPV that you know of?
Anonymous wrote:There are "no tests for men" in that the medical establishment doesn't bother to offer any testing for men as part of routine health care. But men can indeed be swabbed to test for HPV and there is also a way to test for HPV via a urine sample. I remember reading about a clinic in California that did offer swab tests for men and I once found a mail order urine HPV test for men. It may be that they are not as accurate, but it would be better than nothing. I absolutely hate that men are the main vectors for HPV and the medical establishment lets the weight of disease and testing fall on women. Maybe if the rates of oral/throat cancer keep increasing in men medicine will eventually stop seeing HPV as a "women's problem."
I know for a fact it exists. In dmv area. My ex boyfriend’s sister got him tested somehow she was a doctor. I recall it was urine culture . It can be PCR from swan or urine
Anonymous
08/07/2023 13:52
Subject: Re:Have you ever had HPV that you know of?
There are "no tests for men" in that the medical establishment doesn't bother to offer any testing for men as part of routine health care. But men can indeed be swabbed to test for HPV and there is also a way to test for HPV via a urine sample. I remember reading about a clinic in California that did offer swab tests for men and I once found a mail order urine HPV test for men. It may be that they are not as accurate, but it would be better than nothing. I absolutely hate that men are the main vectors for HPV and the medical establishment lets the weight of disease and testing fall on women. Maybe if the rates of oral/throat cancer keep increasing in men medicine will eventually stop seeing HPV as a "women's problem."
Anonymous
08/07/2023 13:40
Subject: Re:Have you ever had HPV that you know of?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How can we get a test for men regularly as part of an sti check? Apparently there are urine cultures that check for it. Why isn’t this standard?
Same question here: anyone know which lab in dmv area offers this testing for men ?
There is no test for men.
Anonymous
08/07/2023 13:16
Subject: Re:Have you ever had HPV that you know of?
Anonymous wrote:How can we get a test for men regularly as part of an sti check? Apparently there are urine cultures that check for it. Why isn’t this standard?
More women in leadership. We need them so desperately at every level. And we all need to step up to get them there. It obviously isn’t going to happen “organically.” We need cross-generational activism in every thread of society.
Anonymous
08/07/2023 13:06
Subject: Re:Have you ever had HPV that you know of?
Anonymous wrote:How can we get a test for men regularly as part of an sti check? Apparently there are urine cultures that check for it. Why isn’t this standard?
Well, one, we would have to develop a test for HPV for men. It doesn't currently exist.
Anonymous
08/07/2023 13:04
Subject: Re:Have you ever had HPV that you know of?
Anonymous wrote:How can we get a test for men regularly as part of an sti check? Apparently there are urine cultures that check for it. Why isn’t this standard?
Same question here: anyone know which lab in dmv area offers this testing for men ?
Anonymous
08/07/2023 12:58
Subject: Re:Have you ever had HPV that you know of?
How can we get a test for men regularly as part of an sti check? Apparently there are urine cultures that check for it. Why isn’t this standard?
Anonymous
08/07/2023 12:56
Subject: Have you ever had HPV that you know of?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you’re dating in your 40s, would you get it?
Of course! How is this a question?
Because the guidance isn’t very clear.
The guidance is very clear. What on earth are you confused about?
Stop being mean. I got vaxxed at age 45 a year ago, but doctors are often not that clear about it. When I asked five years ago, my gyn didn't recommend it. Now she does, probably because it is officially approved for older women now.
I think one issue is that some doctors assume women over forty are not getting exposed to as much std wise. I feel this is SO not true for women who are dating. Online dating makes it very easy for men to sleep around a lot. Even if you are not sleeping around, even if you are not doing online dating, the guy you are may be.
I would go ahead and get vaxxed.
I think men in our age group should be getting vaxxed too. It annoys me they are not. I think it's sexist - like oh it's not a big deal to treat so who cares. To me it DOES sound like a big deal to treat so why aren't we vaccinating everyone? Because HPV doesn't have many repercussions for most men. Though I would still get vaccinated if I was a guy because of throat cancer, penile cancer, and not wanting to be the jerk who gives someone else cancer or warts.
Thank you, PP.
I agree about the men. It’s crazy.
Anonymous
08/07/2023 12:39
Subject: Have you ever had HPV that you know of?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So how do you handle oral sex when you’re dating/in a relationship with a man who wasn’t vaccinated when young?
Same question here . Oral sex is pretty much a normality in early dating stages but I’m very concerned about STIs
I am not risking getting throat cancer to give a guy oral sex. I use condoms when performing oral sex and I am very choosy about who I have oral sex with - only if we are exclusive and if we have been tested for STDs.
I am fine with not receiving oral sex. Not sure how women handle protection when receiving oral sex.
Jury is out on how much condoms protect from HPV but there are some studies showing they protect quite a bit.
If I get married, I might be willing to take on the risk of condom free oral sex. But not before then. And I wouldn't do it unvaccinated (I am vaxxed).
Data shows that men are getting HPV oral cancer at vastly higher rates than women, which suggests that the virus doesn’t hang around in/on the dry environment of a man’s member.
Yea, as a woman I was always perplexed how easily men offer “go down” on me after a few dates and not asking for STI testing or vaccinated. Just plain stupid
Anonymous
08/07/2023 12:34
Subject: Have you ever had HPV that you know of?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So how do you handle oral sex when you’re dating/in a relationship with a man who wasn’t vaccinated when young?
Same question here . Oral sex is pretty much a normality in early dating stages but I’m very concerned about STIs
I am not risking getting throat cancer to give a guy oral sex. I use condoms when performing oral sex and I am very choosy about who I have oral sex with - only if we are exclusive and if we have been tested for STDs.
I am fine with not receiving oral sex. Not sure how women handle protection when receiving oral sex.
Jury is out on how much condoms protect from HPV but there are some studies showing they protect quite a bit.
If I get married, I might be willing to take on the risk of condom free oral sex. But not before then. And I wouldn't do it unvaccinated (I am vaxxed).
Data shows that men are getting HPV oral cancer at vastly higher rates than women, which suggests that the virus doesn’t hang around in/on the dry environment of a man’s member.
No it’s bc a lot of them are gay men sucking other gay men
Anonymous
08/07/2023 12:32
Subject: Re:Have you ever had HPV that you know of?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I had stage 4 base-of-tongue cancer (HPV 16 positive) but am fine now. The virus probably was in me for 30+ years before coming out of hiding. If I were engaging in it, I would be worried especially about unprotected anal sex, because there is no pap smear test (and it sounds like a nasty way to get cancer).
So so sorry. How old were you when it appeared? How do you know when you got it?
I was 54, started experiencing pain, a swollen tongue, and then a telltale unilateral neck lymph node swelling (unilateral node swelling is never good). My oral surgeon thought it was related to a tooth implant process I was in the middle of and prescribed a mouthwash.
Anonymous
08/07/2023 12:28
Subject: Have you ever had HPV that you know of?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So how do you handle oral sex when you’re dating/in a relationship with a man who wasn’t vaccinated when young?
Same question here . Oral sex is pretty much a normality in early dating stages but I’m very concerned about STIs
I am not risking getting throat cancer to give a guy oral sex. I use condoms when performing oral sex and I am very choosy about who I have oral sex with - only if we are exclusive and if we have been tested for STDs.
I am fine with not receiving oral sex. Not sure how women handle protection when receiving oral sex.
Jury is out on how much condoms protect from HPV but there are some studies showing they protect quite a bit.
If I get married, I might be willing to take on the risk of condom free oral sex. But not before then. And I wouldn't do it unvaccinated (I am vaxxed).
Data shows that men are getting HPV oral cancer at vastly higher rates than women, which suggests that the virus doesn’t hang around in/on the dry environment of a man’s member.
Anonymous
08/07/2023 12:16
Subject: Have you ever had HPV that you know of?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you’re dating in your 40s, would you get it?
Of course! How is this a question?
Because the guidance isn’t very clear.
The guidance is very clear. What on earth are you confused about?
Stop being mean. I got vaxxed at age 45 a year ago, but doctors are often not that clear about it. When I asked five years ago, my gyn didn't recommend it. Now she does, probably because it is officially approved for older women now.
I think one issue is that some doctors assume women over forty are not getting exposed to as much std wise. I feel this is SO not true for women who are dating. Online dating makes it very easy for men to sleep around a lot. Even if you are not sleeping around, even if you are not doing online dating, the guy you are may be.
I would go ahead and get vaxxed.
I think men in our age group should be getting vaxxed too. It annoys me they are not. I think it's sexist - like oh it's not a big deal to treat so who cares. To me it DOES sound like a big deal to treat so why aren't we vaccinating everyone? Because HPV doesn't have many repercussions for most men. Though I would still get vaccinated if I was a guy because of throat cancer, penile cancer, and not wanting to be the jerk who gives someone else cancer or warts.
Anonymous
08/07/2023 12:12
Subject: Have you ever had HPV that you know of?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So how do you handle oral sex when you’re dating/in a relationship with a man who wasn’t vaccinated when young?
Same question here . Oral sex is pretty much a normality in early dating stages but I’m very concerned about STIs
I am not risking getting throat cancer to give a guy oral sex. I use condoms when performing oral sex and I am very choosy about who I have oral sex with - only if we are exclusive and if we have been tested for STDs.
I am fine with not receiving oral sex. Not sure how women handle protection when receiving oral sex.
Jury is out on how much condoms protect from HPV but there are some studies showing they protect quite a bit.
If I get married, I might be willing to take on the risk of condom free oral sex. But not before then. And I wouldn't do it unvaccinated (I am vaxxed).
Anonymous
08/07/2023 11:57
Subject: Have you ever had HPV that you know of?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you’re dating in your 40s, would you get it?
Of course! How is this a question?
Because the guidance isn’t very clear.
The guidance is very clear. What on earth are you confused about?