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Anonymous wrote:If there was no place to isolate the passenger, the solution is to land the plane. Not force passengers to continue to be sexually assaulted. You land the damn plane and get the criminal off.

Where do you want it to land? The ocean?

THe flight was from JFK TO Greece. I don't know when the assault started happening, but there are lots of places the plane could have been diverted to before it got all the way to Athens.

+1 planes make emergency landings for far less severe issues than this one. Sexual assault of a minor is about as serious as it gets.

What are the complexities at play with this being an international flight?

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Anonymous wrote:If there was no place to isolate the passenger, the solution is to land the plane. Not force passengers to continue to be sexually assaulted. You land the damn plane and get the criminal off.

Where do you want it to land? The ocean?

THe flight was from JFK TO Greece. I don't know when the assault started happening, but there are lots of places the plane could have been diverted to before it got all the way to Athens.

+1 planes make emergency landings for far less severe issues than this one. Sexual assault of a minor is about as serious as it gets.

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Anonymous wrote:If there was no place to isolate the passenger, the solution is to land the plane. Not force passengers to continue to be sexually assaulted. You land the damn plane and get the criminal off.

Where do you want it to land? The ocean?

THe flight was from JFK TO Greece. I don't know when the assault started happening, but there are lots of places the plane could have been diverted to before it got all the way to Athens.

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Anonymous wrote:If there was no place to isolate the passenger, the solution is to land the plane. Not force passengers to continue to be sexually assaulted. You land the damn plane and get the criminal off.

Where do you want it to land? The ocean?

THe flight was from JFK TO Greece. I don't know when the assault started happening, but there are lots of places the plane could have been diverted to before it got all the way to Athens.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If there was no place to isolate the passenger, the solution is to land the plane. Not force passengers to continue to be sexually assaulted. You land the damn plane and get the criminal off.

Where do you want it to land? The ocean?

THe flight was from JFK TO Greece. I don't know when the assault started happening, but there are lots of places the plane could have been diverted to before it got all the way to Athens.

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Anonymous wrote:If there was no place to isolate the passenger, the solution is to land the plane. Not force passengers to continue to be sexually assaulted. You land the damn plane and get the criminal off.

Where do you want it to land? The ocean?

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Anonymous wrote:These "what could they have done" posts are wild. Weren't flight attendants duct taping people to their chairs last year for cutting up? Didn't a flight get *turned around* this week because a guy called a flight attendant a waitress? Like, when did these "treat us like air marshals" flight attendants become so helpless?

Or is it just when a woman and teenaged girl are the victims, it's not particularly compelling?j

+1. The fact that Delta let the guy go scot free after the flight without calling the police is criminal if this story is true. Wtf is going on with that airline? There was just a story last week about how they kept passengers on an unairconditoned plane in 115 degree Vegas heat for 4 hours until multiple passengers passed out/vomited/soiled themselves and then cancelled the flight.

WTF??? That’s a recipe for killing people.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope they get every dime of the $2M lawsuit they followed and he needs to be locked up.

Delta’s actions are despicable.

https://people.com/delta-passenger-sexually-assaulted-mom-and-teen-daughter-lawsuit-7567357

The flight attendants belong in jail.

Absolutely, they made so many errors including some criminal ones.

They should have stopped serving him long before that point. They should have found passengers to switch seats with both victims. And they should have alerted airport security at the destination that there was an alleged crime on board the aircraft and that the security and/or local police needed to be on-site before the plane landed to detain the accused, and take statements from the alleged victims. For them not to do the latter is criminal and all of the attendants should be charged with aiding and abetting sexual assault.

Who and how? It's wonderful that the other man volunteered, but you really think the the crew should have FORCED that upon another passenger?

There were lots of things they could have done. Cut off the drinks. Restrain him. Move him to a jump seat in the back of the plane. Ask for volunteers. People have been restrained for less.

I agree with the bolded. But your response doesn't address the question I asked that you quoted. How should the crew have "found passengers to switch" without asking/coercing them to be new potential victims?

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a young teen and her mom who are looking for a passenger(s) to swith seats with them. If you are willing to switch seats, please press your 'call attendant' light and a flight attendant will explain further".
And I think many flight attendants have coupons they can give people towards future flights, as a reward for the kind people who might take this seat. Preferably two huge lineback types.

"Oh hello ma'am. Thank you for pressing your call button. You see, there's a teen back there that has been assaulted verbally, physically, and sexually by the stranger sitting next to her. When her mother tried to intervene, the stranger assaulted her as well. Would you like to volunteer to sit next to this man and also be one of his potential victims?"

Why not specify that they are looking for male passengers to switch seats with the passengers? One presumes that the drunk was not as likely to try to assault a male passenger. You never know, he could be a vicious drunk that bats for both sides, but that's less likely.

I'm sorry but what man would want to sit next to him either?! My DH is a big guy who boxed and wrestled. Chances are he would have punched this man and ended up in jail himself instead of the other guy. They toss passengers off the plane for all sorts of reasons. DH actively avoids confrontation because he knows he can be sued for assault.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope they get every dime of the $2M lawsuit they followed and he needs to be locked up.

Delta’s actions are despicable.

https://people.com/delta-passenger-sexually-assaulted-mom-and-teen-daughter-lawsuit-7567357

The flight attendants belong in jail.

Absolutely, they made so many errors including some criminal ones.

They should have stopped serving him long before that point. They should have found passengers to switch seats with both victims. And they should have alerted airport security at the destination that there was an alleged crime on board the aircraft and that the security and/or local police needed to be on-site before the plane landed to detain the accused, and take statements from the alleged victims. For them not to do the latter is criminal and all of the attendants should be charged with aiding and abetting sexual assault.

Who and how? It's wonderful that the other man volunteered, but you really think the the crew should have FORCED that upon another passenger?

There were lots of things they could have done. Cut off the drinks. Restrain him. Move him to a jump seat in the back of the plane. Ask for volunteers. People have been restrained for less.

I agree with the bolded. But your response doesn't address the question I asked that you quoted. How should the crew have "found passengers to switch" without asking/coercing them to be new potential victims?

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a young teen and her mom who are looking for a passenger(s) to swith seats with them. If you are willing to switch seats, please press your 'call attendant' light and a flight attendant will explain further".
And I think many flight attendants have coupons they can give people towards future flights, as a reward for the kind people who might take this seat. Preferably two huge lineback types.

"Oh hello ma'am. Thank you for pressing your call button. You see, there's a teen back there that has been assaulted verbally, physically, and sexually by the stranger sitting next to her. When her mother tried to intervene, the stranger assaulted her as well. Would you like to volunteer to sit next to this man and also be one of his potential victims?"

Why not specify that they are looking for male passengers to switch seats with the passengers? One presumes that the drunk was not as likely to try to assault a male passenger. You never know, he could be a vicious drunk that bats for both sides, but that's less likely.

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Anonymous wrote:These "what could they have done" posts are wild. Weren't flight attendants duct taping people to their chairs last year for cutting up? Didn't a flight get *turned around* this week because a guy called a flight attendant a waitress? Like, when did these "treat us like air marshals" flight attendants become so helpless?

Or is it just when a woman and teenaged girl are the victims, it's not particularly compelling?j

+1. The fact that Delta let the guy go scot free after the flight without calling the police is criminal if this story is true. Wtf is going on with that airline? There was just a story last week about how they kept passengers on an unairconditoned plane in 115 degree Vegas heat for 4 hours until multiple passengers passed out/vomited/soiled themselves and then cancelled the flight.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope they get every dime of the $2M lawsuit they followed and he needs to be locked up.

Delta’s actions are despicable.

https://people.com/delta-passenger-sexually-assaulted-mom-and-teen-daughter-lawsuit-7567357

The flight attendants belong in jail.

Absolutely, they made so many errors including some criminal ones.

They should have stopped serving him long before that point. They should have found passengers to switch seats with both victims. And they should have alerted airport security at the destination that there was an alleged crime on board the aircraft and that the security and/or local police needed to be on-site before the plane landed to detain the accused, and take statements from the alleged victims. For them not to do the latter is criminal and all of the attendants should be charged with aiding and abetting sexual assault.

Who and how? It's wonderful that the other man volunteered, but you really think the the crew should have FORCED that upon another passenger?

There were lots of things they could have done. Cut off the drinks. Restrain him. Move him to a jump seat in the back of the plane. Ask for volunteers. People have been restrained for less.

I agree with the bolded. But your response doesn't address the question I asked that you quoted. How should the crew have "found passengers to switch" without asking/coercing them to be new potential victims?

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a young teen and her mom who are looking for a passenger(s) to swith seats with them. If you are willing to switch seats, please press your 'call attendant' light and a flight attendant will explain further".
And I think many flight attendants have coupons they can give people towards future flights, as a reward for the kind people who might take this seat. Preferably two huge lineback types.

"Oh hello ma'am. Thank you for pressing your call button. You see, there's a teen back there that has been assaulted verbally, physically, and sexually by the stranger sitting next to her. When her mother tried to intervene, the stranger assaulted her as well. Would you like to volunteer to sit next to this man and also be one of his potential victims?"

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope they get every dime of the $2M lawsuit they followed and he needs to be locked up.

Delta’s actions are despicable.

https://people.com/delta-passenger-sexually-assaulted-mom-and-teen-daughter-lawsuit-7567357

The flight attendants belong in jail.

Absolutely, they made so many errors including some criminal ones.

They should have stopped serving him long before that point. They should have found passengers to switch seats with both victims. And they should have alerted airport security at the destination that there was an alleged crime on board the aircraft and that the security and/or local police needed to be on-site before the plane landed to detain the accused, and take statements from the alleged victims. For them not to do the latter is criminal and all of the attendants should be charged with aiding and abetting sexual assault.

Who and how? It's wonderful that the other man volunteered, but you really think the the crew should have FORCED that upon another passenger?

There were lots of things they could have done. Cut off the drinks. Restrain him. Move him to a jump seat in the back of the plane. Ask for volunteers. People have been restrained for less.

I agree with the bolded. But your response doesn't address the question I asked that you quoted. How should the crew have "found passengers to switch" without asking/coercing them to be new potential victims?

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a young teen and her mom who are looking for a passenger(s) to swith seats with them. If you are willing to switch seats, please press your 'call attendant' light and a flight attendant will explain further".
And I think many flight attendants have coupons they can give people towards future flights, as a reward for the kind people who might take this seat. Preferably two huge lineback types.

"Oh hello ma'am. Thank you for pressing your call button. You see, there's a teen back there that has been assaulted verbally, physically, and sexually by the stranger sitting next to her. When her mother tried to intervene, the stranger assaulted her as well. Would you like to volunteer to sit next to this man and also be one of his potential victims?"

Seems like a good way to get a him beaten to death by fellow passengers

I believe that was an episode of CSI