Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 09:38     Subject: New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:If they can sort out the toxic waste issues, this site would seem to be a much better option than RFK: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/investigations/commanders-stadium/washington-commanders-stadium-search-rfk-dc-location-poplar-point-virginia-maryland/65-bcee48b2-b0e5-4b6f-b12a-22eb6c26696f


No. It is too small about 96 acres(RFK 190/Fedex 200) and is owned by the NPS. It is so small the on site parking would likely be less than 10k meaning everyone else would have to arrive by the one metro stop. Building access ramps to the existing highway would take a 1/4 to a 1/3 of available lane. Parking is a big source of revenues. Access to the site is restricted by highway and water front. It would be a traffic nightmare.

It makes no sense to put a stadium there. This is prime water front property worth a lot of money to developers.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 09:26     Subject: New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:It should be in DC.

Seattle has benefited from their stadium downtown, Baltimore’s stadiums are downtown, Vegas, etc.

Shiny new things attract developers. New development brings in $. Look at how transformed SE waterfront has been and the wharf area.

$ solves many of the problems in DC.

If you want DC to go back to the 80s, so be it. Ain’t happening


Back to the 80s, when there was an NFL team with a stadium in the District? Troll better, out-of-towner.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 08:36     Subject: New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It should be in DC.

Seattle has benefited from their stadium downtown, Baltimore’s stadiums are downtown, Vegas, etc.

Shiny new things attract developers. New development brings in $. Look at how transformed SE waterfront has been and the wharf area.

$ solves many of the problems in DC.

If you want DC to go back to the 80s, so be it. Ain’t happening


Hate to be the nerd, but studies over and over have shown over and over that the infrastructure investment would have the same results if you stuck a hospital or even a Target there than a stadium. Only sucker jurisdictions give handouts to billionaire sports owners. Don’t be a mark.


Exactly. And the problem they are going to have here is the population is too educated to be fooled by this.

I assume they are hoping they can overcome that by getting the states/territories feeling FOMO and bidding against each other...

It's a really interesting collective action problem... presumably the DMV as a whole benefits from having a team, but no jurisdiction is going to buy that they benefit from having it in their backyard.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 08:31     Subject: New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

I would love to give a handout. Having the stadium in land over is horrible.

Bring it back to DC!
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 08:24     Subject: New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:It should be in DC.

Seattle has benefited from their stadium downtown, Baltimore’s stadiums are downtown, Vegas, etc.

Shiny new things attract developers. New development brings in $. Look at how transformed SE waterfront has been and the wharf area.

$ solves many of the problems in DC.

If you want DC to go back to the 80s, so be it. Ain’t happening


Hate to be the nerd, but studies over and over have shown over and over that the infrastructure investment would have the same results if you stuck a hospital or even a Target there than a stadium. Only sucker jurisdictions give handouts to billionaire sports owners. Don’t be a mark.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 08:21     Subject: New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC does not want a football stadium.


Neither does Virginia.


While I personally don't want a stadium in Virginia, I think Youngkin and the General Assembly are open to a stadium for a team not owned by Dan Snyder.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2023 08:19     Subject: New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:It should be in DC.

Seattle has benefited from their stadium downtown, Baltimore’s stadiums are downtown, Vegas, etc.

Shiny new things attract developers. New development brings in $. Look at how transformed SE waterfront has been and the wharf area.

$ solves many of the problems in DC.

If you want DC to go back to the 80s, so be it. Ain’t happening


Which was done without a boondoggle of a stadium that puts taxpayers on the hook for hundreds of millions of dollars.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 23:28     Subject: New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

It should be in DC.

Seattle has benefited from their stadium downtown, Baltimore’s stadiums are downtown, Vegas, etc.

Shiny new things attract developers. New development brings in $. Look at how transformed SE waterfront has been and the wharf area.

$ solves many of the problems in DC.

If you want DC to go back to the 80s, so be it. Ain’t happening
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 23:14     Subject: New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Put it in west va. They need a team.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 23:06     Subject: New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Is it safe to have a football crowd in DC?
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 21:44     Subject: New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:Do any of these communities actually want the stadium? Feels like huge negative impacts for whatever neighborhood “wins” - no one buys that these are a boon economically anymore.


It's only a "win" for the billionaires and the vain politician who gets to put their name on the stadium. I'm sure RFK will be renamed Bowser stadium if it comes to DC.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 20:12     Subject: New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:Do any of these communities actually want the stadium? Feels like huge negative impacts for whatever neighborhood “wins” - no one buys that these are a boon economically anymore.


Exactly.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 19:59     Subject: New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’d be put down solid money that they end up building it at Poplar Point (across the Anacostia from Nationals Park). Ward 8 needs something massive and this could be it.


Ward 8 needs some places to buy fresh vegetables, not a cavernous crime-enticing vacant lot for all but 10 weekends a year.


That’s already been tried and failed. https://dcist.com/story/12/11/05/yes-nope-east-of-the-river-organic/
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 19:53     Subject: New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Do any of these communities actually want the stadium? Feels like huge negative impacts for whatever neighborhood “wins” - no one buys that these are a boon economically anymore.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2023 17:55     Subject: New Commanders Stadium at Poplar Point (Ward 8)?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I actually don’t hate this idea if they can figure out the logistics of moving people in and out without cars. The land is contaminated and not suitable for housing. It will bring large scale stadium concerts back into DC - eg, Taylor Swift and Coldplay. It would anchor a slew of new development on the waterfront.

I think the big issue is how to get people to/from the stadium. You can’t do car there, it would basically shut down the entire SE quadrant every time there was an event. It would be a security nightmare.

Maybe a dedicated underground train from a remote parking lot?


You obviously know nothing about football. Show me one football stadium that is public transit oriented. For many fans the whole point of game day is to get drunk in the parking lot with all your buddies. If they bring it to RFK, we'll have a giant mess of 80,000 cars cramming into the same small neighborhood.

I was going to Redskins games at RFK on the Metro before the Metro had reached Maryland. Tons of people took Metro to Redskins games.


OK grampa. Hope you can take the metro to Ashburn because we don't want the stadium in DC.

Nobody wants the stadium in Ashburn either. Although the Metro does go there. It also goes to the current stadium and tons of people take it there as well.