Anonymous
07/16/2023 15:14
Subject: States could take over college admissions to preserve race-neutrality
This OPs suggested system should only be considered if all schools were funded the same way. Good-bye private schools. Booster money from parent associations would go into one big pot, and spent equally among all schools. School boundaries would follow strict geographical lines. None of these deals with housing developers to make sure their houses are zoned for school with higher income families. Free preschool for all, plus, free daycare as well. Make the playing field equal for all. Oops… kinda sounds like Cuba, North Korea to me!
Anonymous
07/16/2023 15:08
Subject: Re:States could take over college admissions to preserve race-neutrality
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It seems like some people just want to ban black and brown students from ever attending college (as was the case in the past). That would solve all these issues.
Wut? Are you implying that Black and Brown students are incapable of a high GPA or test score? You want to be their "patron saint" just so you can feel good?
Yet another Klan-tastic idea from the DCUM faithful!
Talk is cheap. They need to show their true capabilities. That will shut people down! Bring it!
Anonymous
07/16/2023 14:57
Subject: States could take over college admissions to preserve race-neutrality
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:States could require the use of standardized testing and codify admissions criteria, including requiring transparency and annual certifications from school officials.
For example, a state could publish an admission grid, wherein applicants are placed into “bands” based on the combination of their standardized scores and grade point averages. They could then allow for other factors to be given a set amount of weight to adjust the ranking in each band based on extracurricular or individual accomplishments. This could be limited to, for example, a 10 or 15 percent step-up from the baseline score in ranking.
Offers of admission would then be based on the ranking, made on a rolling basis downward to fill available seats.
https://thehill.com/opinion/4098712-nuclear-option-have-states-take-over-college-admissions-to-preserve-race-neutrality/
It has never, ever, ever, ever, been either the goal or the mission of a university to fill classes like that. Ever. There is so much more to human knowledge than GPA + test score.
I'm very in favor of using IQ score
Why? My brother is the laziest MF on the planet and he has an IQ of 153. A spot at an elite school (and he graduated from a T10) is wasted on him. Far better to give it to someone with a lower IQ but more drive/grit.
Agreed. I have a family member with a 155 IQ score who graduated from an Ivey league school and has done diddly squat since then.
Anonymous
07/16/2023 14:53
Subject: States could take over college admissions to preserve race-neutrality
Any female wanting this is stupid
Republican plans in states with super majority are going all in against women.
That means your daughters will not be admitted to college over a male. If you don’t think this is coming you have not read the court cases correctly.
Good luck ladies your daughters are on for a hell of a ride educationally and jobs you think moving forward companies won’t make it mandatory to hire a make over a female?
We have no protections … ERA was never passed civil rights going away.
Yep …, consequences of dumb Americans
Republican plans in states with super majority are going all in against women.
That means your daughters will not be admitted to college over a male. If you don’t think this is coming you have not read the court cases correctly.
Good luck ladies your daughters are on for a hell of a ride educationally and jobs you think moving forward companies won’t make it mandatory to hire a make over a female?
We have no protections … ERA was never passed civil rights going away.
Yep …, consequences of dumb Americans
Anonymous
07/16/2023 14:52
Subject: Re:States could take over college admissions to preserve race-neutrality
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It seems like some people just want to ban black and brown students from ever attending college (as was the case in the past). That would solve all these issues.
Ironically, they think it's the black/brown students taking their own kids place. Hint---it is not. It is just other highly qualified students, but when admission rates are single digits (or 10-20%) it is a lottery for everyone and they are just pissed they didn't win the lottery
Agree. They’ll blame the URM who “stole” their spot.
Anonymous
07/16/2023 14:41
Subject: States could take over college admissions to preserve race-neutrality
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:States could require the use of standardized testing and codify admissions criteria, including requiring transparency and annual certifications from school officials.
For example, a state could publish an admission grid, wherein applicants are placed into “bands” based on the combination of their standardized scores and grade point averages. They could then allow for other factors to be given a set amount of weight to adjust the ranking in each band based on extracurricular or individual accomplishments. This could be limited to, for example, a 10 or 15 percent step-up from the baseline score in ranking.
Offers of admission would then be based on the ranking, made on a rolling basis downward to fill available seats.
https://thehill.com/opinion/4098712-nuclear-option-have-states-take-over-college-admissions-to-preserve-race-neutrality/
It has never, ever, ever, ever, been either the goal or the mission of a university to fill classes like that. Ever. There is so much more to human knowledge than GPA + test score.
I'm very in favor of using IQ score
Why? My brother is the laziest MF on the planet and he has an IQ of 153. A spot at an elite school (and he graduated from a T10) is wasted on him. Far better to give it to someone with a lower IQ but more drive/grit.
Anonymous
07/16/2023 14:39
Subject: States could take over college admissions to preserve race-neutrality
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:States could require the use of standardized testing and codify admissions criteria, including requiring transparency and annual certifications from school officials.
For example, a state could publish an admission grid, wherein applicants are placed into “bands” based on the combination of their standardized scores and grade point averages. They could then allow for other factors to be given a set amount of weight to adjust the ranking in each band based on extracurricular or individual accomplishments. This could be limited to, for example, a 10 or 15 percent step-up from the baseline score in ranking.
Offers of admission would then be based on the ranking, made on a rolling basis downward to fill available seats.
https://thehill.com/opinion/4098712-nuclear-option-have-states-take-over-college-admissions-to-preserve-race-neutrality/
It has never, ever, ever, ever, been either the goal or the mission of a university to fill classes like that. Ever. There is so much more to human knowledge than GPA + test score.
I know! And that' what we need to change. What part of that didn't you get after 4 pages?
Anonymous
07/16/2023 14:34
Subject: States could take over college admissions to preserve race-neutrality
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:States could require the use of standardized testing and codify admissions criteria, including requiring transparency and annual certifications from school officials.
For example, a state could publish an admission grid, wherein applicants are placed into “bands” based on the combination of their standardized scores and grade point averages. They could then allow for other factors to be given a set amount of weight to adjust the ranking in each band based on extracurricular or individual accomplishments. This could be limited to, for example, a 10 or 15 percent step-up from the baseline score in ranking.
Offers of admission would then be based on the ranking, made on a rolling basis downward to fill available seats.
https://thehill.com/opinion/4098712-nuclear-option-have-states-take-over-college-admissions-to-preserve-race-neutrality/
It has never, ever, ever, ever, been either the goal or the mission of a university to fill classes like that. Ever. There is so much more to human knowledge than GPA + test score.
I'm very in favor of using IQ score
Anonymous
07/16/2023 14:19
Subject: States could take over college admissions to preserve race-neutrality
Anonymous wrote:States could require the use of standardized testing and codify admissions criteria, including requiring transparency and annual certifications from school officials.
For example, a state could publish an admission grid, wherein applicants are placed into “bands” based on the combination of their standardized scores and grade point averages. They could then allow for other factors to be given a set amount of weight to adjust the ranking in each band based on extracurricular or individual accomplishments. This could be limited to, for example, a 10 or 15 percent step-up from the baseline score in ranking.
Offers of admission would then be based on the ranking, made on a rolling basis downward to fill available seats.
https://thehill.com/opinion/4098712-nuclear-option-have-states-take-over-college-admissions-to-preserve-race-neutrality/
It has never, ever, ever, ever, been either the goal or the mission of a university to fill classes like that. Ever. There is so much more to human knowledge than GPA + test score.
Anonymous
07/16/2023 14:11
Subject: States could take over college admissions to preserve race-neutrality
Test Optional is here to stay folks.
Get used to it.
A silly op-ed won't change this.
Get used to it.
A silly op-ed won't change this.
Anonymous
07/16/2023 13:50
Subject: States could take over college admissions to preserve race-neutrality
This thread is hilarious.
Anonymous
07/16/2023 13:49
Subject: States could take over college admissions to preserve race-neutrality
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:States could require the use of standardized testing and codify admissions criteria, including requiring transparency and annual certifications from school officials.
For example, a state could publish an admission grid, wherein applicants are placed into “bands” based on the combination of their standardized scores and grade point averages. They could then allow for other factors to be given a set amount of weight to adjust the ranking in each band based on extracurricular or individual accomplishments. This could be limited to, for example, a 10 or 15 percent step-up from the baseline score in ranking.
Offers of admission would then be based on the ranking, made on a rolling basis downward to fill available seats.
https://thehill.com/opinion/4098712-nuclear-option-have-states-take-over-college-admissions-to-preserve-race-neutrality/
So, more or less import the Chinese civil service examination policy, where your scores determine your position in life?
Sure. I guess we could do that.
Or most of other countries
Anonymous
07/16/2023 13:47
Subject: States could take over college admissions to preserve race-neutrality
Anonymous wrote:State universities could choose this. But privates? Doubtful. Plus, do you really want the govt further involved in admissions?
Privates receive State and Federal funding.
Government can only provide any support to college that comply.
Anonymous
07/16/2023 13:39
Subject: Re:States could take over college admissions to preserve race-neutrality
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It seems like some people just want to ban black and brown students from ever attending college (as was the case in the past). That would solve all these issues.
Ironically, they think it's the black/brown students taking their own kids place. Hint---it is not. It is just other highly qualified students, but when admission rates are single digits (or 10-20%) it is a lottery for everyone and they are just pissed they didn't win the lottery
Amen
Anonymous
07/16/2023 13:36
Subject: States could take over college admissions to preserve race-neutrality
Anonymous wrote:States could require the use of standardized testing and codify admissions criteria, including requiring transparency and annual certifications from school officials.
For example, a state could publish an admission grid, wherein applicants are placed into “bands” based on the combination of their standardized scores and grade point averages. They could then allow for other factors to be given a set amount of weight to adjust the ranking in each band based on extracurricular or individual accomplishments. This could be limited to, for example, a 10 or 15 percent step-up from the baseline score in ranking.
Offers of admission would then be based on the ranking, made on a rolling basis downward to fill available seats.
https://thehill.com/opinion/4098712-nuclear-option-have-states-take-over-college-admissions-to-preserve-race-neutrality/
This sounds like Communism cloaked in states' rights.
It also is biased towards standardized testing and this meritocracy propaganda. You're showing your political agenda here, OP. And, the several affirmative responses immediately smack of repeat posters. I've said this before. But I think there is a political poster/troller who posts a lot.