Anonymous wrote:So why is the government still allowing the sale of Suburbans and Expeditions and the like, while people sit in their 5,000sf homes set to 65 in the summer? If anything the popularity of this lifestyle (and the 3-4 kids to go with it) is only gaining in popularity.

This is a serious question: People set their AC to 65? Aren't they too cold?

More people will live. Deaths by freezing are 800 percent higher than by warmth.

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Anonymous wrote:Our plan is to move before the great climate change migration is in full swing. Our plan is to move north near a large body of fresh water. We're thinking Michigan near Lake Michigan or Lake Superior.

Be prepared to freeze your tail off.

NP. I'd rather be too cold than too hot, but it's good that not everyone has the same preference. You can still enjoy the hot summers here.

Also, many of these areas are not as cold for as long as they used to be. I grew up in a different part of the great lakes and we didn't even have air conditioning growing up, you just didn't need it. Much more common now.

It's too hot now. It feels like the heat has been endless, and I don't want to do anything outside. I go for walks and return dripping wet. I love summer, and I hate to say this but I'm ready for fall.

The elephant (s) in the room are too many people.
And no one wants to address that 3rd rail.
Other countries like China will not make concessions either.

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Anonymous wrote:Our plan is to move before the great climate change migration is in full swing. Our plan is to move north near a large body of fresh water. We're thinking Michigan near Lake Michigan or Lake Superior.

Be prepared to freeze your tail off.

Not for long!

I feel pretty good about this area. Not too far south, not too far north, not too prone to flooding (we are in western Nova), not very tornado/hurricane prone. We don't tend to get wildfires or mudslides or earthquakes. I know all this can and will change, but I like starting with little to no severe weather.

So why is the government still allowing the sale of Suburbans and Expeditions and the like, while people sit in their 5,000sf homes set to 65 in the summer? If anything the popularity of this lifestyle (and the 3-4 kids to go with it) is only gaining in popularity.

Anonymous wrote:Our plan is to move before the great climate change migration is in full swing. Our plan is to move north near a large body of fresh water. We're thinking Michigan near Lake Michigan or Lake Superior.

Be prepared to freeze your tail off.

I can’t remember which thread had a climate change denier who claimed that because Australia had the lowest low temp ever in May of last year (their winter, may I remind everyone), climate change isn’t real.

Well the southern hemisphere just recorded their highest temperature ever. In winter. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-04/south-america-extreme-heat-mid-winter-climate-change-scientists/102678662

Our plan is to move before the great climate change migration is in full swing. Our plan is to move north near a large body of fresh water. We're thinking Michigan near Lake Michigan or Lake Superior.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here.

What I'm suggesting is why aren't more scientists/people engaged in figuring out the how are we going to deal with this rather than why is it happening? Cause I believe we are already at the point of no return and I don't know if climate change exists because of global warming caused by humans or not but I do know and am confident that the summers will continue to be hotter and longer moving forward. So what are we going to do about it??

Politics. And extreme societal inertia. A brilliant MD/PhD friend who recently retired from the EPA told me he believes that our lives will be virtually unrecognizable in our lifetime due to climate change. Like I said, he recently retired, so "our lifetime" isn't a large number of years, but it isn't necessarily 5-10 either. .

OP here. Yeah, I do think that unrecognizable will not happen for another 20-25 years but I think within 5-10, our lives will need adapting. Even now, with the actual wildfires and air quality wildfires bring, it's a lot. Walking outside for everyone is hard. I just think it'll be worse in the near future.

I'd like to look at what kind of tech is being offered as a solution for how we adapt to our changing world. I seriously think people need to stop putting so much energy into anger/debate of how we got here and what may or may not happen and face what is happening. I certainly do not have any answers but I just wonder what options we have in the next few years to adapt to hotter and destructive weather.

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

What I'm suggesting is why aren't more scientists/people engaged in figuring out the how are we going to deal with this rather than why is it happening? Cause I believe we are already at the point of no return and I don't know if climate change exists because of global warming caused by humans or not but I do know and am confident that the summers will continue to be hotter and longer moving forward. So what are we going to do about it??

Politics. And extreme societal inertia. A brilliant MD/PhD friend who recently retired from the EPA told me he believes that our lives will be virtually unrecognizable in our lifetime due to climate change. Like I said, he recently retired, so "our lifetime" isn't a large number of years, but it isn't necessarily 5-10 either. .

Anonymous wrote:Some people here should really read this book.

https://www.amazon.com/Parrot-Igloo-Climate-Science-Denial/dp/039386670X

To complement this non-fiction book, I really enjoyed (and was concerned by) Kim Stanley Robinson's Ministry for the Future. It's current with realistic predictions of problems and optimistic about solutions, but it isn't pretty.

How the climate changed in the past is a red herring. The issue is that the climate is changing NOW at a much more rapid pace than ever before in human history. We have 7.8 billion people, ~40% of which live near coastlines and ~40% who are vulnerable to climate change by 2030 (not necessarily the same groups). Yes, people will have to adapt, but that takes time. Meanwhile, people are going to migrate if they can or suffer if they can't. That will have an impact on other areas that don't think they will be impacted as much by climate change.

Anonymous wrote:Don't worry. The rich will be fine.

They will be. Until they aren’t.