Anonymous
07/03/2023 16:02
Subject: My family and another family are going on vacation for 5 days together but the family is vegan
Why?
Anonymous
07/03/2023 16:01
Subject: My family and another family are going on vacation for 5 days together but the family is vegan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why can't you just eat vegan for a week?
The point of a vacation is to have fun, and not being able to have ice cream, seafood, grilled meats, etc. is no fun.
Sorbet is awesome, you can grill tons of veggies as well as some fruits, and you can grill tofu. Surely you can't be so stupid as to think vegan people don't have fun on vacations.
Apologies, I should have ended my post with "to me." Doing without those food is no fun TO ME. Therefore I would never "just eat vegan for a week." Also tofu is just wretched.
I'm not the PP, but if I said "vacation isn't fun to me without alcohol" most people would stay that is disordered. If you cannot enjoy a vacation without ice cream, seafood, and grilled meat, that sounds like a you issue that you should maybe work on, rather than a pronouncement about what is and is not fun for other people.
I'm not a fan of tofu myself, but it's absolutely ridiculous to suggest that there are no fun foods that don't involve animal products. Are you honestly sitting here saying that you do not enjoy ANY food that doesn't contain animal products? None? Zero?
NP - I enjoy plenty of foods that don't involve animal products. However, I am a very good cook, I (and my family) love to eat, and having meals we really enjoy is an integral part of vacation. When we go somewhere with a vibrant food culture, literally the first thing I do is figure out where and what we eat. When we go to a beach or ski house, I make means that we all like.
So no, I'm not eating salads and tofu for my whole vacation. Could I? Sure. Will I? Absolutely not. I deserve to enjoy my vacation too.
I agree with the PP, this is the dumbest post on this thread (and possibly imaginable).
Is the issue here that you think that the only way to eat vegan is to have nothing but salad and tofu? If that is the case, it does not actually sound like you are a very good cook. But sure, you deserve to enjoy your vacation. Eat whatever you want. You shouldn't have to defend it to anyone.
Neither should the vegan family. That was my point. Either way, OP should really just talk to these people. If you're good enough friends to go on vacation together, it seems kind of weird that you have not had to negotiate meals before. Definitely time to correct that.
Oh, sorry - forgot the beans. (Which are much better, by the way, if you throw in some pork.)
The point, obviously, is that neither I nor my family will enjoy our vacation if we are required to eat vegan. I don't care if I'm eating at 11 Madison Park for every meal.
Then don't eat vegan! When you go on vacation with a family that is vegan, just talk beforehand about your expectations and plans so that no one is surprised.
Anonymous
07/03/2023 16:00
Subject: My family and another family are going on vacation for 5 days together but the family is vegan
OP, talk to them. If it is their home, they may not want meat in it. If you are renting, just communicate. Basically if you are cooking, make some vegan sides - rice/pasta without butter/dairy, etc and veggies. Then do a vegan main - tofu, fake meat, etc and a meat/fish/what ever for your family. You can make veggie/impossible burgers for their family and sides and make hamburgers for yours.
Anonymous
07/03/2023 15:56
Subject: Re:My family and another family are going on vacation for 5 days together but the family is vegan
Anonymous wrote:“Going vegan” doesn’t require anyone to eat a single thing they don’t find appealing or morally acceptable. I would expect that the vegan family has a plan for making meals work already and it won’t require changes to OPs diet but you people who cannot imagine meals without meat or dairy must be the most boring cooks in the world.
This is a common trope for vegans, and it's complete nonsense. What we can cook is very, very different than what we like to eat.
Anonymous
07/03/2023 15:53
Subject: My family and another family are going on vacation for 5 days together but the family is vegan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why can't you just eat vegan for a week?
The point of a vacation is to have fun, and not being able to have ice cream, seafood, grilled meats, etc. is no fun.
Sorbet is awesome, you can grill tons of veggies as well as some fruits, and you can grill tofu. Surely you can't be so stupid as to think vegan people don't have fun on vacations.
Apologies, I should have ended my post with "to me." Doing without those food is no fun TO ME. Therefore I would never "just eat vegan for a week." Also tofu is just wretched.
I'm not the PP, but if I said "vacation isn't fun to me without alcohol" most people would stay that is disordered. If you cannot enjoy a vacation without ice cream, seafood, and grilled meat, that sounds like a you issue that you should maybe work on, rather than a pronouncement about what is and is not fun for other people.
I'm not a fan of tofu myself, but it's absolutely ridiculous to suggest that there are no fun foods that don't involve animal products. Are you honestly sitting here saying that you do not enjoy ANY food that doesn't contain animal products? None? Zero?
NP - I enjoy plenty of foods that don't involve animal products. However, I am a very good cook, I (and my family) love to eat, and having meals we really enjoy is an integral part of vacation. When we go somewhere with a vibrant food culture, literally the first thing I do is figure out where and what we eat. When we go to a beach or ski house, I make means that we all like.
So no, I'm not eating salads and tofu for my whole vacation. Could I? Sure. Will I? Absolutely not. I deserve to enjoy my vacation too.
I agree with the PP, this is the dumbest post on this thread (and possibly imaginable).
Is the issue here that you think that the only way to eat vegan is to have nothing but salad and tofu? If that is the case, it does not actually sound like you are a very good cook. But sure, you deserve to enjoy your vacation. Eat whatever you want. You shouldn't have to defend it to anyone.
Neither should the vegan family. That was my point. Either way, OP should really just talk to these people. If you're good enough friends to go on vacation together, it seems kind of weird that you have not had to negotiate meals before. Definitely time to correct that.
Oh, sorry - forgot the beans. (Which are much better, by the way, if you throw in some pork.)
The point, obviously, is that neither I nor my family will enjoy our vacation if we are required to eat vegan. I don't care if I'm eating at 11 Madison Park for every meal.
Anonymous
07/03/2023 15:47
Subject: Re:My family and another family are going on vacation for 5 days together but the family is vegan
Anonymous wrote:Mostly I would be sure to have an understanding about how to handle kids' meals and treats.
I'm guessing that kids are involved. The vegan family may not want their kids around kids who are eating cheese/pepperoni pizza, chicken nuggets and ice cream etc. because their kids will probably be interested in those delicious kid foods. It could be tough: you have a right to feed your kids the foods they eat as does the vegan family. How to handle? You just have to talk about it out loud.
I have a close friend who is strictly kosher but also very easy going. We spent loads of summer days together and my kids generally ate vegetarian (that's what they did out of their house) in their presence although my friend always said "order whatever they want" we respected each other's preferences and needs, and we talked about it too. I explained it to my kids, they understood that they could have pepperoni pizza another time but we would eat things that their friends could eat too when visiting together. It always worked out.
“Those delicious kid foods” is this what people are freaking out about missing on their vacation?
Anonymous
07/03/2023 15:45
Subject: Re:My family and another family are going on vacation for 5 days together but the family is vegan
“Going vegan” doesn’t require anyone to eat a single thing they don’t find appealing or morally acceptable. I would expect that the vegan family has a plan for making meals work already and it won’t require changes to OPs diet but you people who cannot imagine meals without meat or dairy must be the most boring cooks in the world.
Anonymous
07/03/2023 15:23
Subject: My family and another family are going on vacation for 5 days together but the family is vegan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why can't you just eat vegan for a week?
The point of a vacation is to have fun, and not being able to have ice cream, seafood, grilled meats, etc. is no fun.
Sorbet is awesome, you can grill tons of veggies as well as some fruits, and you can grill tofu. Surely you can't be so stupid as to think vegan people don't have fun on vacations.
Apologies, I should have ended my post with "to me." Doing without those food is no fun TO ME. Therefore I would never "just eat vegan for a week." Also tofu is just wretched.
I'm not the PP, but if I said "vacation isn't fun to me without alcohol" most people would stay that is disordered. If you cannot enjoy a vacation without ice cream, seafood, and grilled meat, that sounds like a you issue that you should maybe work on, rather than a pronouncement about what is and is not fun for other people.
I'm not a fan of tofu myself, but it's absolutely ridiculous to suggest that there are no fun foods that don't involve animal products. Are you honestly sitting here saying that you do not enjoy ANY food that doesn't contain animal products? None? Zero?
NP - I enjoy plenty of foods that don't involve animal products. However, I am a very good cook, I (and my family) love to eat, and having meals we really enjoy is an integral part of vacation. When we go somewhere with a vibrant food culture, literally the first thing I do is figure out where and what we eat. When we go to a beach or ski house, I make means that we all like.
So no, I'm not eating salads and tofu for my whole vacation. Could I? Sure. Will I? Absolutely not. I deserve to enjoy my vacation too.
I agree with the PP, this is the dumbest post on this thread (and possibly imaginable).
Is the issue here that you think that the only way to eat vegan is to have nothing but salad and tofu? If that is the case, it does not actually sound like you are a very good cook. But sure, you deserve to enjoy your vacation. Eat whatever you want. You shouldn't have to defend it to anyone.
Neither should the vegan family. That was my point. Either way, OP should really just talk to these people. If you're good enough friends to go on vacation together, it seems kind of weird that you have not had to negotiate meals before. Definitely time to correct that.
Um, no one here has suggested that the vegan family drop their restrictions for the week, but many have suggested that OP and her family "just go vegan." If she wanted to be vegan, she already would be.
Anonymous
07/03/2023 15:22
Subject: My family and another family are going on vacation for 5 days together but the family is vegan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why can't you just eat vegan for a week?
The point of a vacation is to have fun, and not being able to have ice cream, seafood, grilled meats, etc. is no fun.
Sorbet is awesome, you can grill tons of veggies as well as some fruits, and you can grill tofu. Surely you can't be so stupid as to think vegan people don't have fun on vacations.
Apologies, I should have ended my post with "to me." Doing without those food is no fun TO ME. Therefore I would never "just eat vegan for a week." Also tofu is just wretched.
I'm not the PP, but if I said "vacation isn't fun to me without alcohol" most people would stay that is disordered. If you cannot enjoy a vacation without ice cream, seafood, and grilled meat, that sounds like a you issue that you should maybe work on, rather than a pronouncement about what is and is not fun for other people.
I'm not a fan of tofu myself, but it's absolutely ridiculous to suggest that there are no fun foods that don't involve animal products. Are you honestly sitting here saying that you do not enjoy ANY food that doesn't contain animal products? None? Zero?
NP - I enjoy plenty of foods that don't involve animal products. However, I am a very good cook, I (and my family) love to eat, and having meals we really enjoy is an integral part of vacation. When we go somewhere with a vibrant food culture, literally the first thing I do is figure out where and what we eat. When we go to a beach or ski house, I make means that we all like.
So no, I'm not eating salads and tofu for my whole vacation. Could I? Sure. Will I? Absolutely not. I deserve to enjoy my vacation too.
I agree with the PP, this is the dumbest post on this thread (and possibly imaginable).
Is the issue here that you think that the only way to eat vegan is to have nothing but salad and tofu? If that is the case, it does not actually sound like you are a very good cook. But sure, you deserve to enjoy your vacation. Eat whatever you want. You shouldn't have to defend it to anyone.
Neither should the vegan family. That was my point. Either way, OP should really just talk to these people. If you're good enough friends to go on vacation together, it seems kind of weird that you have not had to negotiate meals before. Definitely time to correct that.
Anonymous
07/03/2023 15:20
Subject: My family and another family are going on vacation for 5 days together but the family is vegan
I'm a former vegan but was pretty laid back about what other people did. I went on plenty of vacations with non vegan friends. Cooking and enjoying animal products around me? NBD. I'd research restaurants ahead of time and would sometimes opt out. No hard feelings.
You need to have a conversation with this family. I would imagine they are also pretty laid back because otherwise I can't imagine them wanting to go on vacation with you.
You need to have a conversation with this family. I would imagine they are also pretty laid back because otherwise I can't imagine them wanting to go on vacation with you.
Anonymous
07/03/2023 15:15
Subject: Re:My family and another family are going on vacation for 5 days together but the family is vegan
Anonymous wrote:I would ask them what they’re thinking
This. Are you staying at the same Airbnb? If not, it’s easy, each family cooks their own meals. If yes, I think the key is letting them know you will cook whatever you want and eat whatever you want and they can do the same.
Anonymous
07/03/2023 14:25
Subject: My family and another family are going on vacation for 5 days together but the family is vegan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why can't you just eat vegan for a week?
The point of a vacation is to have fun, and not being able to have ice cream, seafood, grilled meats, etc. is no fun.
Sorbet is awesome, you can grill tons of veggies as well as some fruits, and you can grill tofu. Surely you can't be so stupid as to think vegan people don't have fun on vacations.
Apologies, I should have ended my post with "to me." Doing without those food is no fun TO ME. Therefore I would never "just eat vegan for a week." Also tofu is just wretched.
I don't think you were invited on OP's vacation so chill
Oh sorry, didn't realize that only people invited on OP's vacation can opine. It's gonna be a pretty quiet thread.
Feel free to "opine" but she's asking how to make this work, not if you would choose this particular vacation and why or why not.
And what useful advice have you offered to OP?
To have a conversation with the family about how they like to eat on vacation - home cooking, restaurants, which restaurants - so they can coordinate, and eat some meals together and probably plan for some to be separate.
I think talking, in situations like these, is usually best.
Anonymous
07/03/2023 14:23
Subject: My family and another family are going on vacation for 5 days together but the family is vegan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why can't you just eat vegan for a week?
The point of a vacation is to have fun, and not being able to have ice cream, seafood, grilled meats, etc. is no fun.
Sorbet is awesome, you can grill tons of veggies as well as some fruits, and you can grill tofu. Surely you can't be so stupid as to think vegan people don't have fun on vacations.
Apologies, I should have ended my post with "to me." Doing without those food is no fun TO ME. Therefore I would never "just eat vegan for a week." Also tofu is just wretched.
I'm not the PP, but if I said "vacation isn't fun to me without alcohol" most people would stay that is disordered. If you cannot enjoy a vacation without ice cream, seafood, and grilled meat, that sounds like a you issue that you should maybe work on, rather than a pronouncement about what is and is not fun for other people.
I'm not a fan of tofu myself, but it's absolutely ridiculous to suggest that there are no fun foods that don't involve animal products. Are you honestly sitting here saying that you do not enjoy ANY food that doesn't contain animal products? None? Zero?
NP - I enjoy plenty of foods that don't involve animal products. However, I am a very good cook, I (and my family) love to eat, and having meals we really enjoy is an integral part of vacation. When we go somewhere with a vibrant food culture, literally the first thing I do is figure out where and what we eat. When we go to a beach or ski house, I make means that we all like.
So no, I'm not eating salads and tofu for my whole vacation. Could I? Sure. Will I? Absolutely not. I deserve to enjoy my vacation too.
I agree with the PP, this is the dumbest post on this thread (and possibly imaginable).
Anonymous
07/03/2023 14:16
Subject: Re:My family and another family are going on vacation for 5 days together but the family is vegan
I'm not a fan of tofu myself, but it's absolutely ridiculous to suggest that there are no fun foods that don't involve animal products. Are you honestly sitting here saying that you do not enjoy ANY food that doesn't contain animal products? None? Zero?
I'm not PP and I actually like tofu. I'm confident that I could enjoy a meal or two that was vegan (I like Thai and Indian). However, I don't want to do the majority of my meals on a 5 day vacation as vegan meals. If the other family is cool with doing breakfast and other occasional meals together, but splitting up for many other meals, it would work for me. If not, I don't think this situation sounds like a fun vacation.
Anonymous
07/03/2023 14:16
Subject: My family and another family are going on vacation for 5 days together but the family is vegan
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why can't you just eat vegan for a week?
The point of a vacation is to have fun, and not being able to have ice cream, seafood, grilled meats, etc. is no fun.
Sorbet is awesome, you can grill tons of veggies as well as some fruits, and you can grill tofu. Surely you can't be so stupid as to think vegan people don't have fun on vacations.
Apologies, I should have ended my post with "to me." Doing without those food is no fun TO ME. Therefore I would never "just eat vegan for a week." Also tofu is just wretched.
I don't think you were invited on OP's vacation so chill
Oh sorry, didn't realize that only people invited on OP's vacation can opine. It's gonna be a pretty quiet thread.
Feel free to "opine" but she's asking how to make this work, not if you would choose this particular vacation and why or why not.
And what useful advice have you offered to OP?