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Anonymous wrote:That the key to easy weight maintenance is only eating REAL food. No to artificial sweeteners, low fat products made with xanthan gum, etc. But YES to butter, bacon, whole milk alongside vegetables, lean meat, whole grains.

Kind of on the theme of supporting the bolded -- I am not anti-carb at all, but my nurse mom always said my high cholesterol had more to do with overeating carbs than animal protein.

Why would you add "nurse mom"? Are you implying that all nurses are experts in nutrition just because they work in hospitals? Maybe if you said my cardiologist mom you'd have a stronger statement.

Anonymous wrote:That the key to easy weight maintenance is only eating REAL food. No to artificial sweeteners, low fat products made with xanthan gum, etc. But YES to butter, bacon, whole milk alongside vegetables, lean meat, whole grains.

Kind of on the theme of supporting the bolded -- I am not anti-carb at all, but my nurse mom always said my high cholesterol had more to do with overeating carbs than animal protein.

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Anonymous wrote:That research will eventually prove that calories in, calories out is nowhere near the full story.

That's already happened, where have you been

90% of posters in this forum still think CICO is gospel and people are overweight solely because they have no willpower.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don’t need nearly as much protein to be healthy and strong as many people think you do.

Agree. Everyone has fallen for the protein overhype.

Oh this is so true! I sent this to my friend who was crowd sourcing best protein bars.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/12/well/eat/protein-bars.html

Did you actually read the article? The moral is check the label not that protein is overhyped.

I’m pro protein and pro heavy weights and a woman. I believe most middle aged women aren’t doing enough of either (especially those who in this thread).

Calories in, calories out is the basic story. Many people pick poor calories in so they cannot live to whatever limit they should be at.

calories in/ out is only one picture of the story. But humans are complex and not closed systems, and so it is not 'pure physics.' you cannot control all the variables the way you can (or should) in lab tests.

inflammation, which is actually produced by excess fat among other things, impacts gut microbiome and fat storage. Gut microbiome definitely impacts fat storage/absorption--there are obesogenic bacteria. quality of nutrition is huge. calories from different foods have a huge impact on appetite, insulin, and that regulates hunger and fat storage. the more crap you eat, the crappier gut bacteria, insulin resistance, etc you have which drives you to eat more and more while being less and less nourished.

Its not calories in calories out that matter so much as garbage in/garbage out. The more we learn about the impact of highly processed foods, the clearer it is that the quality of food has a huge impact on health, weight, hunger, etc. So its a complex mechanism. But food quality is number one thing to change obesity....if you focus on that, calories matter far less, until you are looking to shave off those last 5-10 lbs.

I do peloton biking 1 day a week only so I guess I’m ok. I run 3 days a week (don’t want to add more days in my “old” age of 41), and I walk or swim (in the summer) two days and take one day off.

I do think calories in / calories out / regular exercise / healthy foods / enough rest is a lot of it. I think it’s largely as simple as that and I guess that’s my thing that I’ll still believe even if some disagree.

90% of what's been posted thus far is old news and already widely accepted. The remaining 10% is just plain garbage.

I agree with most things posted!

It IS about calories in vs. calories out. Most people are not counting their calories correctly (see the poster who was drinking a crap ton of extra calories from her coffee creamer alone). When I was obese, I thought I was eating less than I actually was, and it's easy to overlook all the extra calories you add in drinks, snacks, tasting food while you're cooking, "splurges" on the weekend, alcohol, etc.

Peloton 1-3x a week mixed in with other things? Fine. But if that's all you're doing? Terrible for you.

Protein is totally overrated. We need it, but not in the crazy amounts many suggest. People ought to eat wayyyy more carbs. Specifically, nutritious carbs with lots of fiber.

Exercise is a big key to losing, and keeping weight off.

I'll add:

Metabolism is not something you're born with that you cannot change. Eating better quality foods and getting good regular exercise will increase your metabolism, and help you burn more calories even during the times you're sitting on the sofa.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t need nearly as much protein to be healthy and strong as many people think you do.

Agree. Everyone has fallen for the protein overhype.

Oh this is so true! I sent this to my friend who was crowd sourcing best protein bars.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/12/well/eat/protein-bars.html

Being hungry all the time or everyday to stay “thin” and believing it is “willpower” is worse for your overall health than being overweight.

Anonymous wrote:Permanent weight loss without surgical or medical intervention is mostly a myth.

WRONG!! Just because you or someone you know hasn't experienced permanent weight loss that doesn't make it a myth.

I think different people process the calories differently. Some are really efficient at it and thus need to eat less and some bodies are less efficient and thus need to eat more. Same for how the body uses the energy from food - some bodies burn it faster and less effectively than others and end up needing more energy to function. It is also not static, if you feed your body less, it will get more efficient in the processing of food and in the burning of the fuel.

Then how do you explain overweight people who eat little and thin people who eat a lot? I'm 115 pounds and I eat way more (and more often) then my DH who weighs 240 at 5'8. How is his body highly efficient? I am literally always hungry and always eating something and he has maybe a small breakfast and dinner. I would argue that my body seems to be doing a better job of processing calories. We seem to be at opposite extremes.

Anonymous wrote:Running is not going to cause your knees to explode.

Explode? stop with the theatrics in an effort to get your point across.

Anonymous wrote:That research will eventually prove that calories in, calories out is nowhere near the full story.

That's already happened, where have you been