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Anonymous wrote:We know that the "tough on crime" approach doesn't work.

1993 tough on crime Clinton measures drove US homicide and gun crime downs60% in a sustained over 20 year trend. It is only when we started reducing incarnation rates of serious criminals about five to ten years ago that crime started to rise again. and it rose again exactly when and where incarnation rates of serous criminals were lowered.
and multiple studies show same demographic jurisdictions with more time served for serious crimes have lower violent crime rates. Take look at Virginia vs Maryland: Same region, extremely similar age, income, density, education averages and Virginia which is tough on crime" where time served for felony violent crime is about 30% longer, has considerably lower per capital homicide. (OK, Virginia also has much higher gun ownership rate which probably is part of deterrence, but the main difference is in sentencing.

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Anonymous wrote:You are ignoring the impact that our brutal “society” has on unlucky individuals. If you are not born into a stable family situation then god help you. People like you are flat out ignorant.

Even more NONSENSE and gibberish
I grew up very poor and a minority, and with a totally unstable family situation, and like 95%of people who did, I never harmed anyone. perhaps you are the one ignorant of the facts and think everyone who is a minority is a criminal! Anyone who has grown up "unlucky" can tell you that WE are the victims of the soft on crime policies that have caused this spike in violent crime. And people like you making excuses for criminals the ones doing harm

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberal policies on policing and prosecution cause this.

Go back to actually arresting people and putting them in jail.

Stop voting for progressives!

I will gladly keep voting for progressives because, unlike law-and-order reactionaries, I appreciate that the best way to increase public safety is to address the conditions that lead people to commit crimes in the first place, that harsher punishments don't actually deter crime, that people who make terrible mistakes (especially when they're young) should have a support structure that enables them to thrive in society, and that more policing resources need to be directed toward increasing clearance rates and solving unsolved crimes.

We know that the "tough on crime" approach doesn't work. It makes us no safer but inflicts a ton of misery. Its real goal is to use the power of the state to assuage conservatives' sensitive feelings. They want to feel like "cops are catching the bad guys" even when they're not, and like "the bad guys are getting punished" even when very few are irredeemably evil and the carceral system makes them even more prone to committing crimes.

You really drank the Koop aid didn’t you? Of course we need to get to the root cause, but it’s never going to happen and crime will get worse. Eventually, they will rob someone with a gun and get shot. When the criminal see that the regular people are fighting back, it will lessen. Our CA is terrible, imo and is a direct cause of much of the increased crime. I do still feel safe, but I do not leave my purse or keys in my unlocked car. That’s just stupid. Crime of opportunity can happen everywhere.

I don’t understand this type of thinking. Why is it either/or? Why can’t we address root causes such as poverty, racism etc. But when you commit a crime you get punished? Working class people care about safety as well. So do immigrants, Latinos, Black people. I don’t understand why we can’t focus on both at the same time.

Anonymous wrote:We know that the "tough on crime" approach doesn't work.

Anonymous wrote:You are ignoring the impact that our brutal “society” has on unlucky individuals. If you are not born into a stable family situation then god help you. People like you are flat out ignorant.

Anonymous wrote:You embody the soft bigotry of low expectations.

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Anonymous wrote:Sad thing is you used to be able to leave your car unlocked and trust your neighbors not to break into your car.

Uh, when? Car thefts were multiple times higher around 1990, despite Arlington's population being much lower:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1990/09/20/auto-thefts-rose-slightly-in-first-six-months-of-1990/376e31f4-37c8-43c5-a542-379d8a1f13f3/
Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberal policies on policing and prosecution cause this.

Go back to actually arresting people and putting them in jail.

Stop voting for progressives!

I will gladly keep voting for progressives because, unlike law-and-order reactionaries, I appreciate that the best way to increase public safety is to address the conditions that lead people to commit crimes in the first place, that harsher punishments don't actually deter crime, that people who make terrible mistakes (especially when they're young) should have a support structure that enables them to thrive in society, and that more policing resources need to be directed toward increasing clearance rates and solving unsolved crimes.

We know that the "tough on crime" approach doesn't work. It makes us no safer but inflicts a ton of misery. Its real goal is to use the power of the state to assuage conservatives' sensitive feelings. They want to feel like "cops are catching the bad guys" even when they're not, and like "the bad guys are getting punished" even when very few are irredeemably evil and the carceral system makes them even more prone to committing crimes.

You really drank the Koop aid didn’t you? Of course we need to get to the root cause, but it’s never going to happen and crime will get worse. Eventually, they will rob someone with a gun and get shot. When the criminal see that the regular people are fighting back, it will lessen. Our CA is terrible, imo and is a direct cause of much of the increased crime. I do still feel safe, but I do not leave my purse or keys in my unlocked car. That’s just stupid. Crime of opportunity can happen everywhere.

I don’t understand this type of thinking. Why is it either/or? Why can’t we address root causes such as poverty, racism etc. But when you commit a crime you get punished? Working class people care about safety as well. So do immigrants, Latinos, Black people. I don’t understand why we can’t focus on both at the same time.

Lol.

You think there must be some root causes for why people commit crime that society can address.

It has obviously never dawned on you that there are many people out there that are simply lowlife scum peices of s*** beyond saving who'll never make good choices in life no matter how many chances and opportunities you give them. There are antisocial psychopaths waking the street everyday who are violent, hardened criminals because they want to be, not because of society.

These people need to be thrown into a black hole and the key thrown away.

You are ignoring the impact that our brutal “society” has on unlucky individuals. If you are not born into a stable family situation then god help you. People like you are flat out ignorant.

You embody the soft bigotry of low expectations.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberal policies on policing and prosecution cause this.

Go back to actually arresting people and putting them in jail.

Stop voting for progressives!

I will gladly keep voting for progressives because, unlike law-and-order reactionaries, I appreciate that the best way to increase public safety is to address the conditions that lead people to commit crimes in the first place, that harsher punishments don't actually deter crime, that people who make terrible mistakes (especially when they're young) should have a support structure that enables them to thrive in society, and that more policing resources need to be directed toward increasing clearance rates and solving unsolved crimes.

We know that the "tough on crime" approach doesn't work. It makes us no safer but inflicts a ton of misery. Its real goal is to use the power of the state to assuage conservatives' sensitive feelings. They want to feel like "cops are catching the bad guys" even when they're not, and like "the bad guys are getting punished" even when very few are irredeemably evil and the carceral system makes them even more prone to committing crimes.

You really drank the Koop aid didn’t you? Of course we need to get to the root cause, but it’s never going to happen and crime will get worse. Eventually, they will rob someone with a gun and get shot. When the criminal see that the regular people are fighting back, it will lessen. Our CA is terrible, imo and is a direct cause of much of the increased crime. I do still feel safe, but I do not leave my purse or keys in my unlocked car. That’s just stupid. Crime of opportunity can happen everywhere.

I don’t understand this type of thinking. Why is it either/or? Why can’t we address root causes such as poverty, racism etc. But when you commit a crime you get punished? Working class people care about safety as well. So do immigrants, Latinos, Black people. I don’t understand why we can’t focus on both at the same time.

Lol.

You think there must be some root causes for why people commit crime that society can address.

It has obviously never dawned on you that there are many people out there that are simply lowlife scum peices of s*** beyond saving who'll never make good choices in life no matter how many chances and opportunities you give them. There are antisocial psychopaths waking the street everyday who are violent, hardened criminals because they want to be, not because of society.

These people need to be thrown into a black hole and the key thrown away.

You are ignoring the impact that our brutal “society” has on unlucky individuals. If you are not born into a stable family situation then god help you. People like you are flat out ignorant.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberal policies on policing and prosecution cause this.

Go back to actually arresting people and putting them in jail.

Stop voting for progressives!

I will gladly keep voting for progressives because, unlike law-and-order reactionaries, I appreciate that the best way to increase public safety is to address the conditions that lead people to commit crimes in the first place, that harsher punishments don't actually deter crime, that people who make terrible mistakes (especially when they're young) should have a support structure that enables them to thrive in society, and that more policing resources need to be directed toward increasing clearance rates and solving unsolved crimes.

We know that the "tough on crime" approach doesn't work. It makes us no safer but inflicts a ton of misery. Its real goal is to use the power of the state to assuage conservatives' sensitive feelings. They want to feel like "cops are catching the bad guys" even when they're not, and like "the bad guys are getting punished" even when very few are irredeemably evil and the carceral system makes them even more prone to committing crimes.

You really drank the Koop aid didn’t you? Of course we need to get to the root cause, but it’s never going to happen and crime will get worse. Eventually, they will rob someone with a gun and get shot. When the criminal see that the regular people are fighting back, it will lessen. Our CA is terrible, imo and is a direct cause of much of the increased crime. I do still feel safe, but I do not leave my purse or keys in my unlocked car. That’s just stupid. Crime of opportunity can happen everywhere.

I don’t understand this type of thinking. Why is it either/or? Why can’t we address root causes such as poverty, racism etc. But when you commit a crime you get punished? Working class people care about safety as well. So do immigrants, Latinos, Black people. I don’t understand why we can’t focus on both at the same time.

Lol.

You think there must be some root causes for why people commit crime that society can address.

It has obviously never dawned on you that there are many people out there that are simply lowlife scum peices of s*** beyond saving who'll never make good choices in life no matter how many chances and opportunities you give them. There are antisocial psychopaths waking the street everyday who are violent, hardened criminals because they want to be, not because of society.

These people need to be thrown into a black hole and the key thrown away.

Anonymous wrote:Seems like a normal amount of crime. Lock your car doors. Lock your house doors. Don’t hang out on the street after midnight.
I’m in 22207, and o know at least 4 friends who have had their cars stolen. Guess what? Every single one left a key in the car. Stupid.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberal policies on policing and prosecution cause this.

Go back to actually arresting people and putting them in jail.

Stop voting for progressives!

I will gladly keep voting for progressives because, unlike law-and-order reactionaries, I appreciate that the best way to increase public safety is to address the conditions that lead people to commit crimes in the first place, that harsher punishments don't actually deter crime, that people who make terrible mistakes (especially when they're young) should have a support structure that enables them to thrive in society, and that more policing resources need to be directed toward increasing clearance rates and solving unsolved crimes.

We know that the "tough on crime" approach doesn't work. It makes us no safer but inflicts a ton of misery. Its real goal is to use the power of the state to assuage conservatives' sensitive feelings. They want to feel like "cops are catching the bad guys" even when they're not, and like "the bad guys are getting punished" even when very few are irredeemably evil and the carceral system makes them even more prone to committing crimes.

You really drank the Koop aid didn’t you? Of course we need to get to the root cause, but it’s never going to happen and crime will get worse. Eventually, they will rob someone with a gun and get shot. When the criminal see that the regular people are fighting back, it will lessen. Our CA is terrible, imo and is a direct cause of much of the increased crime. I do still feel safe, but I do not leave my purse or keys in my unlocked car. That’s just stupid. Crime of opportunity can happen everywhere.

I don’t understand this type of thinking. Why is it either/or? Why can’t we address root causes such as poverty, racism etc. But when you commit a crime you get punished? Working class people care about safety as well. So do immigrants, Latinos, Black people. I don’t understand why we can’t focus on both at the same time.

Lol.

You think there must be some root causes for why people commit crime that society can address.

It has obviously never dawned on you that there are many people out there that are simply lowlife scum peices of s*** beyond saving who'll never make good choices in life no matter how many chances and opportunities you give them. There are antisocial psychopaths waking the street everyday who are violent, hardened criminals because they want to be, not because of society.

These people need to be thrown into a black hole and the key thrown away.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberal policies on policing and prosecution cause this.

Go back to actually arresting people and putting them in jail.

Stop voting for progressives!

I will gladly keep voting for progressives because, unlike law-and-order reactionaries, I appreciate that the best way to increase public safety is to address the conditions that lead people to commit crimes in the first place, that harsher punishments don't actually deter crime, that people who make terrible mistakes (especially when they're young) should have a support structure that enables them to thrive in society, and that more policing resources need to be directed toward increasing clearance rates and solving unsolved crimes.

We know that the "tough on crime" approach doesn't work. It makes us no safer but inflicts a ton of misery. Its real goal is to use the power of the state to assuage conservatives' sensitive feelings. They want to feel like "cops are catching the bad guys" even when they're not, and like "the bad guys are getting punished" even when very few are irredeemably evil and the carceral system makes them even more prone to committing crimes.

You really drank the Koop aid didn’t you? Of course we need to get to the root cause, but it’s never going to happen and crime will get worse. Eventually, they will rob someone with a gun and get shot. When the criminal see that the regular people are fighting back, it will lessen. Our CA is terrible, imo and is a direct cause of much of the increased crime. I do still feel safe, but I do not leave my purse or keys in my unlocked car. That’s just stupid. Crime of opportunity can happen everywhere.

I don’t understand this type of thinking. Why is it either/or? Why can’t we address root causes such as poverty, racism etc. But when you commit a crime you get punished? Working class people care about safety as well. So do immigrants, Latinos, Black people. I don’t understand why we can’t focus on both at the same time.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberal policies on policing and prosecution cause this.

Go back to actually arresting people and putting them in jail.

Stop voting for progressives!

I will gladly keep voting for progressives because, unlike law-and-order reactionaries, I appreciate that the best way to increase public safety is to address the conditions that lead people to commit crimes in the first place, that harsher punishments don't actually deter crime, that people who make terrible mistakes (especially when they're young) should have a support structure that enables them to thrive in society, and that more policing resources need to be directed toward increasing clearance rates and solving unsolved crimes.

We know that the "tough on crime" approach doesn't work. It makes us no safer but inflicts a ton of misery. Its real goal is to use the power of the state to assuage conservatives' sensitive feelings. They want to feel like "cops are catching the bad guys" even when they're not, and like "the bad guys are getting punished" even when very few are irredeemably evil and the carceral system makes them even more prone to committing crimes.

In Arlington the structures are in place, the amount of charity that is available to people in need is tremendous. There are lots of programs for low income kids. But with all things, one has to actually avail themselves of the opportunities. No, there is no way to force someone to take advantage of a program or get involved. We are past the point of needing "to fix" anything other than crime. You keep believing that the next hand out will make the difference while ignoring the fact that people have free will and sometimes do bad things. Lots of people want free, fast, easy money. Even people with money. The police don't act of fear of people like you. But then again, as soon as you are the victim of even the smallest crime, there is no doubt that the first thing you will do is reach for the phone to call the policie.

Iun other words, you are like everyone else in Arligton. You are liberal and progressive UNTIL it effects you personally, and then, well that's a different story ....

"Law and order" conservatives really need to update their talking points. They've gotten pretty stale.

If you think that Arlington's programs are generous enough to eliminate poverty in the county, to say nothing about the DC area more broadly, then I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. We have poverty right here in our backyard, along with all of the downstream problems it causes: hunger, homelessness, and yes, crime. Our social programs make a dent, but they don't come close to fully alleviating poverty, and they certainly don't eliminate the economic and social structures that produce it. Then there's the fact that, as many conservatives like to point out, there's poverty in DC too, leading some to cross the river to commit crimes of opportunity here.

You say that the only thing keeping me, a liberal snowflake, from becoming just as punitive and draconian as you is that I haven't been a victim of crime yet. Leave aside the fact that I have, in fact, been a victim of crime, multiple times. Let's say I get mugged while I'm walking home. What would be going through my head? Fear, panic, and a lot of other adrenaline-laden feelings, sure. And yeah, I would almost certainly call the police. Why? Not because the police could stop the crime. It had already happened, and they had failed to stop it. I'd call just to report it, in hopes that they could catch the perpetrator. I wouldn't get my hopes up, though, because even our relatively professionalized police force doesn't seem to be all that great at catching robbers. (Tellingly the ACPD annual reports tally the number of offenses against persons and property, but don't say what percentage of those cases resulted in arrests.) So where would that leave me? Right back to where I currently am, thinking that police don't do much to keep me safe.

Maybe I'd feel some animosity toward the perpetrator. After all, in our hypothetical, they threatened to harm me and stole my stuff. Of course I'd be angry at them. But I wouldn't want them to be summarily executed or anything. What I'd want is for them to acknowledge that what they did was wrong, give me my stuff back, and make a better life for themselves so that they don't hurt anyone else. Restorative justice models create the best chances of that happening. Certainly more so than the retributive "lock em up" model that conservatives cling so hard to.

I hate to break it to you but Santa isn’t real either

Anonymous wrote:Liberal policies on policing and prosecution cause this.

Go back to actually arresting people and putting them in jail.

Stop voting for progressives!